The Show Must Go On: 2013-14 Los Angeles Lakers thread

[Regular_P]

That team is fukking terrible. Aren't winning shyt with that squad.

They're playing half decent with those guys and none of the stars. They'd be a contender with that roster.

 

[GreatestLaker]

They're playing half decent with those guys and none of the stars. They'd be a contender with that roster.

Sure let's all forget about the defensive end. We would be facing the same problems the Nets are facing now.

 

[MustafaSTL]

That's a gamble I'm willing to take. Its not like we are gambling much anyways dude. This roster is not a good one even if Kobe comes back some what healthy. Even if we don't "tank" we are still going to lose a ton of games.

Detroit built their team by signing and trading for players that everyone thought were average at the time, but they also had assets to complete those trades. Something we lack. They got Ben Wallace in a sign in trade for Grant Hill, signed Billups as a FA, got Rip Hamiltion for Stackhouse and got Rasheed for a first round pick and Sura. Spurs kept their draft picks, something we didn't. You can't compare our situation to theirs.

There's a better chance of building a team through drafting well wherever you are picking, making good trades, and signing the right free agents, than trying to purposely lose games in a draft system that does not reward that kind of strategy. Tanking in the NBA does not work like that. Maybe in the NFL where you know if you have the worst record it can, but not in the NBA.

 

[Regular_P]

Sure let's all forget about the defensive end. We would be facing the same problems the Nets are facing now.

You mean the Nets team that brought in a couple guys who are 36-37 years old and a coach who retired from playing 5 months ago?

 

[GreatestLaker]

There's a better chance of building a team through drafting well wherever you are picking, making good trades, and signing the right free agents, than trying to purposely lose games in a draft system that does not reward that kind of strategy. Tanking in the NBA does not work like that. Maybe in the NFL where you know if you have the worst record it can, but not in the NBA.

If you were going out there tanking every year then yeah I see your point. Only the Thunder and Blazers had success using that strategy recently. But I'm not talking about that.

 

[GreatestLaker]

You mean the Nets team that brought in a couple guys who are 36-37 years old and a coach who retired from playing 5 months ago?

What player on that starting line up is actually a good defender? I'll wait.

 

[Bilz]

There's a better chance of building a team through drafting well wherever you are picking, making good trades, and signing the right free agents, than trying to purposely lose games in a draft system that does not reward that kind of strategy. Tanking in the NBA does not work like that. Maybe in the NFL where you know if you have the worst record it can, but not in the NBA.

Why do you keep phrasing it as if the Lakers have to try to lose games? Even if they're trying and Kobe is playing, they're going to suck dikk.

 

[Regular_P]

What player on that starting line up is actually a good defender? I'll wait.

Blake and Bosh.

The second unit could defend too.

 

[GreatestLaker]

Blake and Bosh.

The second unit could defend too.

lol No. Bosh is an average defender. Miami's defensive scheme makes him look better than he really is. Bosh isn't stopping or slowing anyone down.

Blake is a good defender? Lol he is the best point guard defender on our roster, but he isn't slowing anyone down. He is average at best.

That team would score a ton of points, but would give up just as many and would get exposed in the playoffs.

 

[threattonature]

There's a better chance of building a team through drafting well wherever you are picking, making good trades, and signing the right free agents, than trying to purposely lose games in a draft system that does not reward that kind of strategy. Tanking in the NBA does not work like that. Maybe in the NFL where you know if you have the worst record it can, but not in the NBA.

You're 100% ass backwards in that thinking. Being average as hell is the absolute worst thing you can do in the NBA which the Lakers will be with Kobe back. Everybody knows Spurs held Robinson from coming back on time because they knew the season was a waste so why not try to improve draft position. Having a high draft pick doesn't guarantee you land a star but it definitely ups the odds. Lakers have the cap room to try and lure a superstar or at the very least to trade with a team looking to offload a star for salary. That cap room is likely gone after this year. So the best thing to do is to lose as much as possible to get the cheap assets now to go with whoever they sign in free agency.

 

[MustafaSTL]

You're 100% ass backwards in that thinking. Being average as hell is the absolute worst thing you can do in the NBA which the Lakers will be with Kobe back. Everybody knows Spurs held Robinson from coming back on time because they knew the season was a waste so why not try to improve draft position. Having a high draft pick doesn't guarantee you land a star but it definitely ups the odds. Lakers have the cap room to try and lure a superstar or at the very least to trade with a team looking to offload a star for salary. That cap room is likely gone after this year. So the best thing to do is to lose as much as possible to get the cheap assets now to go with whoever they sign in free agency.

It's ass backwards to build a team the way any competent front office does? Tell me, how many teams won championships by using the tank strategy in the NBA. Now tell me how many teams have won championships by drafting, trading, and acquiring free agents.

But using the usual way to build teams is ass backwards to you.

 

[gho3st]

That team is fukking terrible. Aren't winning shyt with that squad.

Carmelo, Bosh and Kaman nikkas stay delusional.


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[gho3st]

You're 100% ass backwards in that thinking. Being average as hell is the absolute worst thing you can do in the NBA which the Lakers will be with Kobe back. Everybody knows Spurs held Robinson from coming back on time because they knew the season was a waste so why not try to improve draft position. Having a high draft pick doesn't guarantee you land a star but it definitely ups the odds. Lakers have the cap room to try and lure a superstar or at the very least to trade with a team looking to offload a star for salary. That cap room is likely gone after this year. So the best thing to do is to lose as much as possible to get the cheap assets now to go with whoever they sign in free agency.

we are already average right now without Kobe. At best we sneak into the playoffs and at worst we missed it by 2-3 games.

 

[MenacingMonk]

I don't want fruit loop Bosh on our team.

He gonna eye rape Kobe in the showers.

 

[GreatestLaker]

It's ass backwards to build a team the way any competent front office does? Tell me, how many teams won championships by using the tank strategy in the NBA. Now tell me how many teams have won championships by drafting, trading, and acquiring free agents.

But using the usual way to build teams is ass backwards to you.

Our front office is competent now?

We hardly have any draft picks for the rest of the decade, because we traded them. Traded 4 of them for a 40 year old point guard with back problems.

In the past 14 years the Spurs won 4 titles by tanking for Duncan and Celtics won one in 2008 (They were tanking for Durant or Oden, but ended up with Jeff Green who they ended up using to trade for Ray Allen). You need assets in order to trade for quality players. We have none. We traded most of our future draft picks and the last time we drafted a player in the first round was in 2007, but keep living in your little fantasy world breh.