Hacksaw Jim Thuggin
Superstar
I'm disagreeing where you're giving too much credence to dieting/work ethic.
There's dudes at my gym who workout EVERYDAY and see NO results, so yeah genetics play a role. BUT put those same dudes(doing the same thing they're already doing) on PED's for a 4-5 months and watch what happens.

then those cats need help/direction....if you going to the gym everyday and seeing no results....youre doing it wrong

ofcourse if they use supplementation...they will get better/faster results....