the prestige

[Mr. Pink]

I generally agree with you on that it goes deeper and the Borden twins were characters acting 24/7. However, I slightly disagree on them showing off their true personalities. And props to Christian Bale for this, but if you watch this a number of times, you can tell off which twin is which in virtually every single scene of the film, and it's all because of their personalities, especially when around Sarah. From observance, you know that Albert was the one that was more intelligent as well as more relunctant in going into the extremes that his brother wishes them to go. Fredrick was more callous, more obsessive, and willing to get his hands dirty. But both were prisoners of each other and at times wishes to be free to be themselves, but never could until the night of the hanging (Fredrick representing the dead bird in the cage and Albert being the Prestige at the end).

And actually there are THREE scenes that reveal them as they are. You forgot the carousel scene where Albert asked Fredrick (disguised as Fallon) that Sarah either knows or suspects something and asked to try to do better.

Oh I agree that you can tell which is which in several scenes. But I don't think you can decipher much about them.

For instance you say that Freddy is callous, but we only observe his callousness when he is playing Borden to Sarah. But he isn't callous. He just isn't the one who loves her. He only appears callous in contrast to his brother for obvious reasons. I think the only real scene where you can call him callous is the dinner scene with Borden/Sarah and Fallon/Olivia. Freddy who is playing Borden is being an a$$hole. But the thing is that he was almost buried to death a few hours before, so you can kind of see his point, lol.

At least that's my opinion.

Um, why you say it's obvious that's not Albert's seed? or that Fredrick even f*cked Sarah and vice versa? Not saying that it's unlikely, I think it was highly likely, hence further implied motivation for Sarah to hang herself. But that part is clearly ambiguous. There never was a hint either way, or would they themselves would of known. Sh*t they had trouble knowing which one did the right or incorrect knot for crying out loud, lol.

I think it's because Freddy is the one who displays the most obvious paternal affection for her, both as Fallon and as Borden. It's not conclusive proof like you say, but then again nothing is in this movie.

 

[MMS]

Its a movie you fukking moron not a documentary. Take off your fukking engineering hat and use some common sense.

Just admit ya L and fall back breh. You were never considered a particularly brilliant poster to begin with, so this L will likely not affect your existing rep too much.:hey:

says the guy who believes in cloning

u were FOOLED. Eventually youll let go of ur pride and realize that.

Funny you know info about me and i dont know you tho :dro:

 

[Mr. Pink]

@gluvnast
Actually on second thought I think you're right. Albert is the one who is more mechanically clever and calm(he is the the better inginieur) and Freddy is the one who is more emotionally intense(he is the better performer). I forgot about the "why can't you outsmart him?!" scene.

But I think I might be right about Freddy being the father.

 

[theflyest]

Correct ... but this thread is fun..

I would say I'm 60% sure is number 2.. the original remains and a duplicate is created elsewhere.. which is why Angier never gets the prestige ...
and 40% is that the machine does either one and its arbitrary. teh movies hints at that when angier was like he's not sure if he would be in the water or the prestige ...
either way there's always 2 angiers thats why one has to die and is removed by a blind stage hand and all the tanks are kept... nobody can ever know additional angiers are present

The problem I have with number 2 is that it would mean that the machine is basically a cloning device. That means it doesn't teleport at all.

Telsa was a great inventor. His goal in the movie was to create a teleportation device. This is what Angier paid him to do. He was successful in creating exactly what Angier paid for, however there was a side effect.

 

[MMS]

http://taylorholmes.com/2009/08/26/the-prestige-explained/

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

http://taylorholmes.com/2009/08/26/the-prestige-explained/

the problem with that is there would be no need to keep the look-a-likes in the tanks after they died, you just remove their makeup and etc and dump the body and keep it moving ...

The problem I have with number 2 is that it would mean that the machine is basically a cloning device. That means it doesn't teleport at all.

Telsa was a great inventor. His goal in the movie was to create a teleportation device. This is what Angier paid him to do. He was successful in creating exactly what Angier paid for, however there was a side effect.

So the machine didnt actually teleport the individual... that doesnt mean it was a failure. Many of science inventions are from "failures"... And angier used the failure to his advantage and disposed of the extra angier... the machine teleported a duplicate ..

 

[MMS]

the problem with that is there would be no need to keep the look-a-likes in the tanks after they died, you just remove their makeup and etc and dump the body and keep it moving ...



So the machine didnt actually teleport the individual... that doesnt mean it was a failure. Many of science inventions are from "failures"... And angier used the failure to his advantage and disposed of the extra angier... the machine teleported a duplicate ..

it was part of the trick, the trick wasnt for the crowd it was for Borden.

and if you notice, Borden never looks at the bodies. Thus him proving he knew what Angier was doing all along

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

it was part of the trick, the trick wasnt for the crowd it was for Borden.

and if you notice, Borden never looks at the bodies. Thus him proving he knew what Angier was doing all along

But there would be no need to execute Borden for Angier's murder ... they're look-a-likes... the autopsy would prove that ...

 

[MMS]

But there would be no need to execute Borden for Angier's murder ... they're look-a-likes... the autopsy would prove that ...

youre thinking too hard, this is the 1800s

Root looked almost exactly like Angier(they are played by the same actor ) they barely understood electricity let alone modern forensics

besides, Angier went into hiding for months if im not mistaken

 

[theflyest]

I'm guessing the Borden that was actually the father was the one who loved his wife, while the other one loved Scarlett's character. They never did cheat on either one of em. The Borden that loved his wife was the one that survived at the end, that's why his twin said he was sorry about what happened to her when they were sending him off for execution.

As for the kid knowing, we didn't get enough screen time with the daughter to really see if she knew or not. I'm thinking she didn't.

It doesn't say anything like that in the movie. The Bordons lived their act. Obviously each one had their preference but if they are going to pull off the act, they would have to share their women. They have to make sure they weigh the same. That their scars are the same, etc. Complete devotion to their craft. If you want to make an assumption, that would be the most logical one.

The biological father in this case doesn't really matter. There is no way of knowing. Both were equally her father & treated her as their own.

So the machine didnt actually teleport the individual... that doesnt mean it was a failure. Many of science inventions are from "failures"... And angier used the failure to his advantage and disposed of the extra angier... the machine teleported a duplicate ..

That's find you choose to believe that, but Cloning (or duplicating) & Teleporting are 2 completely separate things. You don't go in with the intentions of creating one thing & make the complete opposite, especially at the level the inventor is presented to be in the movie.

Your reasoning for believing it's number 2 is

teh movies hints at that when angier was like he's not sure if he would be in the water or the prestige ...

This is not a hint. It's a straight forward quote. The quote by Angier was to illustrate he has no idea how the machine works.

A hint to how the machine works to the audience is when Telsa says "they're all yours."

 

[Trojan 24]

Its a movie you fukking moron not a documentary. Take off your fukking engineering hat and use some common sense.

Just admit ya L and fall back breh. You were never considered a particularly brilliant poster to begin with, so this L will likely not affect your existing rep too much.:hey:

Auburn losing the bowl must of fried his brain, and he still dancing around all the points brought up. Talking about we were fooled when the screenwriter states they were taking it sci fi

 

[Trojan 24]

http://taylorholmes.com/2009/08/26/the-prestige-explained/

Nobody give a fukk about Taylor Holmes

 

[MMS]

ive been known yall want to believe the cloning

im letting those who are reading this thread know the real genius of the film

and the auburn loss hurt but im aight :cheff:

 

[MMS]

but real talk yall cant see how the "sci fi" element doesnt mesh with the rest of the film? :wot:

im not saying it aint happen, I think it was nolan's intention to have the crowd wondering if they were fooled and both options being viable

i just happen to believe only one of the options

Memento was like that too

 

[Won Won]

http://taylorholmes.com/2009/08/26/the-prestige-explained/

What a pompous dweeb. What's his Coli handle?