The Penguin - HBO Max The Batman Spinoff

[MenacingMonk]

Looks like this is getting a physical media release sometime in March.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

Looks like this is getting a physical media release sometime in March.

I’ll cop and with the Batman.. or do I wait for the whole set after the run is done. Depends..

 

[MenacingMonk]

I’ll cop and with the Batman.. or do I wait for the whole set after the run is done. Depends..

Even though I don’t think they’ll ever stop making them, Physical media is slowly dying. Best to grab it when it’s released just in case.

 

[Osmosis]

The last two episodes:

- Oz gets captured and manages to escape because one of his goons turns off the power
- immediately after Oz then carelessly let's in an unvetted car which has a bomb in it, and then he escapes again
- immediately after Oz is captured yet again, tied up to a chair with only tape as restraints, wiggles himself loose with only one goon nonchalantly trying to stop him, Oz then grabs him and uses him as a shield to protect himself from the only other goon in the room. All the while Sofia and Dr. Rush stand around watching this unfold without doing anything, and then they cower behind a table, watching as Oz escapes again carrying his mother, when this muh'fukka can barely walk.

To make matters worse, Sofia then puts all her chips on the table to whomever can capture Oz, again, only to fall into a trap.

The deus ex machina used here is hilariously bad.

It's the very thing I pointed out after the last episode where we know Oz's life isn't going to be in any grave danger, narratively, so you've got to convince the audience that it could be, because if you don't, you run the risk of flatlining, ultimately undermining whatever tension that could be used to propel the story you're trying to tell (which is exactly what this show suffered from).

In the process, they completely b*stardized Sofia's character into a plot device: first making her out to be cunning, sagacious and full of vision, and then turning her into an object that is used entirely to progress Oz's arc. We go from her meticulously plotting the demise and death of her family and taking over their operation, to then capturing and carelessly letting Oz escape, over and over and over and over again.

Completely agreed. I enjoyed the character work for the most part but felt like the show as a whole was very one note.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Completely agreed. I enjoyed the character work for the most part but felt like the show as a whole was very one note.

I still can't get my head around all the discourse (and not just on this board, but everywhere) that excuses how subpar this show really is. If this had absolutely no connection to any comicbook lore and stood on its own as a mafia show, this shyt would be getting dragged. It pales in comparison to the likes of Sopranos and Gomorrah in every capacity, and they're not even remotely perfect shows.

All these Marvel/DC adaptions have been the worst thing for TV and Film because they've killed everyone's sensibilities around what makes good storytelling. Not only that but they also kill the OG material that it's based off because very rarely do they do it justice.

 

[Osmosis]

I still can't get my head around all the discourse (and not just on this board, but everywhere) that excuses how subpar this show really is. If this had absolutely no connection to any comicbook lore and stood on its own as a mafia show, this shyt would be getting dragged. It pales in comparison to the likes of Sopranos and Gomorrah in every capacity, and they're not even remotely perfect shows.

All these Marvel/DC adaptions have been the worst thing for TV and Film because they've killed everyone's sensibilities around what makes good storytelling. Not only that but they also kill the OG material that it's based off because very rarely do they do it justice.

Slow down there breh

But you're on the money, IP is the reason why these shows get elevated into conversations they have no business being in.

With this show in particular, I think folks enjoyed seeing a more sophisticated spin on a character they grew up with and have since gone overboard with the praise. I waited awhile to watch it and thought I would be in for something more groundbreaking than a fat guy with a bum leg fumbling and bumbling his way out of harm's way for like four straight episodes.

 

[Jazzy B.]

I still can't get my head around all the discourse (and not just on this board, but everywhere) that excuses how subpar this show really is. If this had absolutely no connection to any comicbook lore and stood on its own as a mafia show, this shyt would be getting dragged. It pales in comparison to the likes of Sopranos and Gomorrah in every capacity, and they're not even remotely perfect shows.

All these Marvel/DC adaptions have been the worst thing for TV and Film because they've killed everyone's sensibilities around what makes good storytelling. Not only that but they also kill the OG material that it's based off because very rarely do they do it justice.

Slow down there breh

But you're on the money, IP is the reason why these shows get elevated into conversations they have no business being in.

With this show in particular, I think folks enjoyed seeing a more sophisticated spin on a character they grew up with and have since gone overboard with the praise. I waited awhile to watch it and thought I would be in for something more groundbreaking than a fat guy with a bum leg fumbling and bumbling his way out of harm's way for like four straight episodes.

fukk outta here.

Y'all are the same ones who call that CARTOON Breaking Bad a GOAT show

A show that had it's main character a damn HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER BOSS UP on the cartel and run a STATE drug trade



At least this show is based on an actual wacky comic book character and has source material to go off on as to reasons why all that was going on. What did Breaking Bad have?

 

[MenacingMonk]

They do something out of the norm for comic book tv/film and mu fukkas still complain because it’s not comic book enough. Can’t win with anyone.

Dudes wanna see Penguin pull out an umbrella and hypnotize his opponents to death, then fly away with said umbrella.

 

[Jazzy B.]

They do something out of the norm for comic book tv/film and mu fukkas still complain because it’s not comic book enough. Can’t win with anyone.

Dudes wanna see Penguin pull out an umbrella and hypnotize his opponents to death, then fly away with said umbrella.

They see the comic material as childish.

So when an adaptation crosses into the mainstream and is well received by the public in a genre they like they start PEARL CLUTCHING because the discourse towards their non comic shows could change and are at threat


That's when you hear:

"Comic book movies/shows alwaYs gET oveRAted" "But it's a coMIc BoOK MoVIe not a ThriLLER"

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Its no Sopranos but I was entertained...
I knew he was going to off son...

How you gon trust somebody that walks like a penguin and sings duck tales? And he a fat grotesque CAC to...

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

With most people feeling that the Batman movie was mid or underwhelming, it was a total surprise for the tv series to be as good as it was. nikkas ain't have any expectations for it. Nobody is saying its the best crime drama ever, but it was damn good considering the circumstances. The fact nikkas gotta bring up all time classic shows like The Wire, The Sopranos, and Gommorah in order to downplay it speaks volumes.

Hell, the only show that came out this year that I liked more than the Penguin was Those About to Die and that's because I'm a fukking Spartacus fan who enjoys gladiator scheming and fukkery.

 

[Spidey Man]

Looks like this is getting a physical media release sometime in March.

I'm copping once it drops. Only game of thrones and wire got me to buy the physical, but I enjoyed this a lot. Too bad bum ass WB doesn't include a digital code.

 

[MenacingMonk]

They see the comic material as childish.

So when an adaptation crosses into the mainstream and is well received by the public in a genre they like they start PEARL CLUTCHING because the discourse towards their non comic shows could change and are at threat


That's when you hear:

"Comic book movies/shows alwaYs gET oveRAted" "But it's a coMIc BoOK MoVIe not a ThriLLER"

There’s just so much bytching and complaining and criticizing I’ve reached a point where I’m done with this shyt. Like a post about mentioned how some weirdos thought The Batman was weak. I’m fukkin baffled because it’s the first I’ve heard of that. I’m a big Batman fan and that movie is probably the best Batman movie made.

I’m too old to hear a bunch of grown men whining over anything because they want something their way. Go make a fukkin movie or show the way you want it then. If you don’t like something, why continue watching it?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They see the comic material as childish.

So when an adaptation crosses into the mainstream and is well received by the public in a genre they like they start PEARL CLUTCHING because the discourse towards their non comic shows could change and are at threat


That's when you hear:

"Comic book movies/shows alwaYs gET oveRAted" "But it's a coMIc BoOK MoVIe not a ThriLLER"

You're a litany of straw man arguments aren't you?

You can't even debunk one critique I had about the series. All you're doing is aimlessly generalizing to get cheap daps. You even had the nerve to bring up Breaking Bad as if that has any relevance to the matter. I don't even think you know what pearl clutching is, because you're using it completely out of context.

There’s just so much bytching and complaining and criticizing I’ve reached a point where I’m done with this shyt. Like a post about mentioned how some weirdos thought The Batman was weak. I’m fukkin baffled because it’s the first I’ve heard of that. I’m a big Batman fan and that movie is probably the best Batman movie made.

I’m too old to hear a bunch of grown men whining over anything because they want something their way. Go make a fukkin movie or show the way you want it then. If you don’t like something, why continue watching it?

The only one here bytching is you. Two posters were having a civil discussion on why they didn't like the show.

Do you think every thread about a film or TV show should be without criticism?

Nobody is coming up in here spamming nonsense about the show, they're critiquing why they feel it's not as good as folks are making it out to be. There's only been three negative posts about it lately, so how could you possibly be over them when they make up such a minute percentage of all the other posts in here?

 

[Jazzy B.]

You're a litany of straw man arguments aren't you?

You can't even debunk one critique I had about the series. All you're doing is aimlessly generalizing to get cheap daps. You even had the nerve to bring up Breaking Bad as if that has any relevance to the matter. I don't even think you know what pearl clutching is, because you're using it completely out of context.

OH PLEASE

You're The Coli's QUEEN of STRAW MAN arguments.


You literally ran in here CRYING AGAIN because a comic book show is being talked about in high regard and because it's a threat in terms of discourse/consensus to non comic book shows you like.

All these Marvel/DC adaptions have been the worst thing for TV and Film because they've killed everyone's sensibilities around what makes good storytelling. Not only that but they also kill the OG material that it's based off because very rarely do they do it justice.

^ So why the fukk did your goofy ass even watch the show?


ALL you've done in this thread is CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN like a woman during her cycle



You called the show "lifeless" with "no depth" - fine you're allowed to have that opinion but why are you still then in this thread?