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Intel announced its latest eighth-generation Core processors today, and is promising that the new chips will offer up to a 40 percent speed boost over the previous seventh-generation Kaby Lake chips.

The eighth-generation chips will be doing things a little differently from other generations. In the past, Intel has either used generational steps for introducing new chip architectures (say, the jump from 22nm to 14nm between Haswell and Broadwell) or to offer an improved version of the previous generation’s architecture (like Skylake, which was an upgraded version of the 14nm node).

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Intel eighth-generation processor die.
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The eighth-generation chips, for the first time in the Core line will be doing a mixture of both. Getting announced today is a refreshed version of the Kaby Lake architecture that makes up the seventh-generation processors (built on the 14nm+ technology node), but later releases in the eight generation will offer the upcoming 14++ (Coffee Lake) and 10nm (Cannon Lake) technologies, too

But for now, Intel is focusing its news today on a pretty narrow slice of its eighth-generation line: two new Core i7 chips, and two new i5 chips, both in the company’s U Series of laptop processors. But while the internal architecture may resemble the existing seventh-gen Kaby Lake lineup, there’s some significant speed improvements compared to the last generation of up to 40 percent. Intel says that improvement is largely due to the new chips all getting two extra cores, with all four eighth-gen models offering four cores / eight threads. Additionally, the company says it’s made improvements to the design and manufacturing process to further improve speed.

The new chips are also designed to handle things like 4K video, VR, 3D, and other recent innovations on a platform-wide level. The integrated HD 620 graphics built into the last generation of U Series processors is also getting rebranded to reflect that change in focus as UHD 620 graphics. The new name is largely cosmetic, though, given that the integrated GPU remains unchanged from the previous model. The improvements in performance are focused on the CPU instead.

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Intel eighth-generation processor wafer.
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While it may not be the jump to the next 14nm++ Coffee Lake architecture that many were expecting to launch the eighth-generation line, Intel says that looking at it from a user perspective instead of a strictly technical one, the upgrade is significant enough for a generational rebranding. Intel is also positioning the new eighth-generation chips toward customers with older computers, noting that while current generation Kaby Lake owners will see a moderate boost in performance, customers upgrading from, say, a five-year-old Ivy Bridge system would see more than double the speed from their current systems.

Intel is saying that the first laptops with the new eighth-generation chips will be available from OEM partners starting in September. As is characteristic of Intel, the company was tight-lipped when it came to other upcoming eighth-generation products, although it did say that more information on things like desktop chips, enterprise products, and more powerful enthusiast laptop chips would be forthcoming later in the fall. And looking farther to the future, the company has already started to tease its next next-generation platform, the 10nm++ Ice Lake family that will eventually succeed the newly announced chips.
 

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Got a quick question for my coli brehs. This is my current build


Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz

Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970

RAM 16 GB


My gpu gets way too hot. (Im sure my room isn't helping it) And i also want a bigger pc case for better cable management. I'll be streaming quite heavily pretty soon so i know i need to make sure everything stays cool

With that said however i don't do any 4k gaming or anything. I have 2 1080p monitors and they are fine for me. I was looking into water cooling but im reading unless u overclocking and doing 4k stuff u dont really need all that. Just a good case with good air control


I have a friend that works at staples that can get a discount on anything they have there. So can any of yall help me pick out a case "and" a water cooler (if yall think i need one). But again it has to be from staples as thats where im gettng the discount from. They dont have as many options as amazon but they have some stuff on their website

pc tower


Also how long do yall think my current build will last before i need to upgrade?
 

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Got a quick question for my coli brehs. This is my current build


Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz

Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970

RAM 16 GB


My gpu gets way too hot. (Im sure my room isn't helping it) And i also want a bigger pc case for better cable management. I'll be streaming quite heavily pretty soon so i know i need to make sure everything stays cool

With that said however i don't do any 4k gaming or anything. I have 2 1080p monitors and they are fine for me. I was looking into water cooling but im reading unless u overclocking and doing 4k stuff u dont really need all that. Just a good case with good air control


I have a friend that works at staples that can get a discount on anything they have there. So can any of yall help me pick out a case "and" a water cooler (if yall think i need one). But again it has to be from staples as thats where im gettng the discount from. They dont have as many options as amazon but they have some stuff on their website

pc tower


Also how long do yall think my current build will last before i need to upgrade?
look into setting a custom fan curve for your GPU. you can use MSI Afterburner (it works with non-MSI GPU's)

that with a case with decent airflow should be enough
 

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look into setting a custom fan curve for your GPU. you can use MSI Afterburner (it works with non-MSI GPU's)

that with a case with decent airflow should be enough

Yea i read about that too. My Gpu was maxing out at 80 during overwatch and this was without me streaming. One of the fans came off. I currently have it off for RMA. Im using a old 950 right now.
 

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Yea i read about that too. My Gpu was maxing out at 80 during overwatch and this was without me streaming. One of the fans came off. I currently have it off for RMA. Im using a old 950 right now.
yeah, the fan coming off definitely isn't a good sign :picard:

it might have not been working right in the first place, and that's why you were hitting those temps

but the default fan curve on nvidia cards is pretty weak. this is so it doesn't seem like the card gets too loud. you need to set it so the fan goes to 100% before it gets too hot. I think mine is set to hit 100% at 70c. it does make the card louder, but that's what headphones are for :yeshrug:
 
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yeah, the fan coming off definitely isn't a good sign :picard:

it might have not been working right in the first place, and that's why you were hitting those temps

but the default fan curve on nvidia cards is pretty weak. this is so it doesn't seem like the card gets to loud. you need to set it so the fan goes to 100% before it gets too hot. I think mine is set to hit 100% at 70c. it does make the card louder, but that's what headphones are for :yeshrug:


Yea so after talking with some people in the pctechsupport reddit im finding out that it's actually my cpu thats overheating (My gpu was bugged too but thats getting RMA'd now.


But whats weird is my fans are spinning fine. I will admit my room is pretty hot. So i guess the stock fans just aren't getting the job done. I took the side panel off my tower and laid my pc on it's side and stuck a usb fan in there. Temps went down alot and everything is running smooth again. So im guessing the stock fans just aren't strong enough to keep everything cool when it's on the floor under my table.

Any recommendations for a new cooler? Im gonna buy that and a new tower and that should fix everything for me.
 
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Tell me what I should remove/add and where I can save money. I need a build for Gaming, processing / conversion, data management, and mining. So it is a gaming and a workstation.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($378.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($183.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($124.86 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($942.99 @ PC Canada)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Rosewill - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: D-Link - DWA-552 PCI 802.11g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.50 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($21.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: BenQ - XL2730Z 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($529.99 @ Memory Express)
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Mouse: Corsair - M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse ($59.42 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2825.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-28 17:06 EDT-0400
 

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Tell me what I should remove/add and where I can save money. I need a build for Gaming, processing / conversion, data management, and mining. So it is a gaming and a workstation.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($378.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($183.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($124.86 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($942.99 @ PC Canada)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Rosewill - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: D-Link - DWA-552 PCI 802.11g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($39.50 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: Corsair - Air Series White 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($21.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: BenQ - XL2730Z 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($529.99 @ Memory Express)
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Mouse: Corsair - M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse ($59.42 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2825.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-28 17:06 EDT-0400
Swap out the SSD, Drop the firecuda if you must and get a WD Black M.2 or 960 EVO/Pro
 
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