The Order 1886 [FEB 20 PS4] (Metacritic: 65)

[winb83]

This is nothing but an elaborate excuse.

This is a GAME. So people will compare it to other GAMES and compared to other games its lacking in almost evey aspect other than graphics.

Even if we excuse everything else and call it a "movie game" its still lacking compared to other games which have much more to offer.

Sure you can say its an enjoyable experience, but yes it is objectively a bad GAME.

As a JRPG player I know what happens when you get someone to review a game and that style game doesn't appeal to them. Happens to JRPGs all the time. Some games have a niche appeal and if you're in that demographic you'll love it and if you aren't you won't like it.

If some guy that all he plays is Madden, Call of Duty, GTA, and Assassin's Creed sits down with Disgaea 4 and says it's garbage does that really make it a bad game? There's a difference between something actually being bad and it not appealing to a person.

The Order succeed well at creating the interactive movie experience. The problem with that is most gamers don't want an interactive movie they want a fully fleshed out video game and that's not what this is. It should be judged for what it is not what people want it and all games to be and it shouldn't be judged by people who fundamentally have a problem with what it is. Same thing happened to Beyond Two Souls.

 

[winb83]

Yeah I don't get it. 30fps looks off when I play on PC.

because many console games are designed specifically to run at 30FPS. PC games aren't made for that its a compromise made to run the game if your specs can't run it faster.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

As a JRPG player I know what happens when you get someone to review a game and that style game doesn't appeal to them. Happens to JRPGs all the time. Some games have a niche appeal and if you're in that demographic you'll love it and if you aren't you won't like it.

Even RPGs with limited appeal have some redeeming qualities. Which is why the good ones aren't universally panned. Even if a person doesn't like the genre they can still see the good aspects of the game.

If some guy that all he plays is Madden, Call of Duty, GTA, and Assassin's Creed sits down with Disgaea 4 and says it's garbage does that really make it a bad game? There's a difference between something actually being bad and it not appealing to a person.

The order is actually bad. You have people from all types of opinions saying that. Even people who love move games are saying the story is half baked incomplete and a blatant set up for a sequel.

The Order succeed well at creating the interactive movie experience. The problem with that is most gamers don't want an interactive movie they want a fully fleshed out video game and that's not what this is. It should be judged for what it is not what people want it and all games to be and it shouldn't be judged by people who fundamentally have a problem with what it is. Same thing happened to Beyond Two Souls.

Other games did it better. Beyond two souls did it better

By your logic no game can be bad, cause the answer would then be "your just the wrong demographic"

I could make a game in which you sit in a room and look at a wall and tell you "no my games not bad, you're just not the right audience"

 

[Rekkapryde]

Meach is up to 83 posts in here



But I guess that's what happens when you got no games to play...

 

[winb83]

Even RPGs with limited appeal have some redeeming qualities. Which is why the good ones aren't universally panned. Even if a person doesn't like the genre they can still see the good aspects of the game.


The order is actually bad. You have people from all types of opinions saying that. Even people who love move games are saying the story is half baked incomplete and a blatant set up for a sequel.


Other games did it better. Beyond two souls did it better

By your logic no game can be bad, cause the answer would then be "your just the wrong demographic"

I could make a game in which you sit in a room and look at a wall and tell you "no my games not bad, you're just not the right audience"

Do you own The Order and are you playing it? I own it and am playing it right now. Its not a bad game.

By my logic there's a difference between something not appealing to you as an individual due to its product category and it being a legitimate bad poorly made game.
I love JRPGs and This one got bad reviews. I bought it anyway and I didn't like it.

But that's me as a JRPG fan saying that's a shyt game. That isn't some guy that hates linear interactive movies critiquing a linear interactive movie.

If I don't like racing games and a say Forza 5 is garbage that's entirely different then a fan of racing games saying Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing is a bad game (which it is). The Order isn't a bad game. In the mainstream gaming media they don't like or want games like this though. They'll say this should have been a movie instead.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Do you own The Order and are you playing it? I own it and am playing it right now. Its not a bad game.

By my logic there's a difference between something not appealing to you as an individual due to its product category and it being a legitimate bad poorly made game.
I love JRPGs and This one got bad reviews. I bought it anyway and I didn't like it.

But that's me as a JRPG fan saying that's a shyt game. That isn't some guy that hates linear interactive movies critiquing a linear interactive movie.

If I don't like racing games and a say Forza 5 is garbage that's entirely different then a fan of racing games saying Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing is a bad game (which it is). The Order isn't a bad game. In the mainstream gaming media they don't like or want games like this though. They'll say this should have been a movie instead.

No. even from a movie standpoint the order is lackluster. Its not like its getting mixed reviews. Its getting universal shytted on even by people who like movie games.

The story is uninspired and incomplete. The cinematics are too often broken up by dumb ass QTE.

Spoiler

for example that first boss fight with the werewolf dude. For gameplay people it sucks cause there isn't much gameplay to speak of, for cinematic people it sucks cause it keeps jumping to dumb ass QTE and insta fail if you miss a prompt, so it takes you out of the "cinematic experience"[/spolier]

Its a bad game breh. Form whichever standpoint you look at it. That's why it's not getting mixed reviews, its getting bad reviews.

 

[#StarkSet]

Meach is up to 83 posts in here



But I guess that's what happens when you got no games to play...

Guess you haven't seen Titan fall

 

[Fatboi1]

Game has some nice DOF.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Meach is up to 83 posts in here



But I guess that's what happens when you got no games to play...

You still posting in here even though the game is out and PS4 has so many more games.

Why ain't you playing?

 

[winb83]

No. even from a movie standpoint the order is lackluster. Its not like its getting mixed reviews. Its getting universal shytted on even by people who like movie games.

The story is uninspired and incomplete. The cinematics are too often broken up by dumb ass QTE.

Spoiler

for example that first boss fight with the werewolf dude. For gameplay people it sucks cause there isn't much gameplay to speak of, for cinematic people it sucks cause it keeps jumping to dumb ass QTE and insta fail if you miss a prompt, so it takes you out of the "cinematic experience"[/spolier]

Its a bad game breh. Form whichever standpoint you look at it. That's why it's not getting mixed reviews, its getting bad reviews.

who in the mainstream gaming media likes games with minimal gameplay that prioritize cinematic over all else?

I look at it like that. If all you care about is story and cinematic in a game then something like Super Mario isn't gonna cut it for you. This is the opposite of that.

 

[ChrisDorner2]

lol at the cycle of the arcadium

*game drops, score is low*
*xbots/ps4 stans: "told you!! "*
*defending xbots/ps4 stans: "reviews dont matter. have u played it? U starving "*

yall literally have the exact same convo every week. only thing different is the name of the game.

 

[winb83]

Look what I found. Some type of primitive doll with button eyes. I Imagine a child used to play with such items back in 1886.

 

[Fatboi1]

Chapter IV's location look so frigging good.

 

[Fatboi1]

How it looks on a 21:9 monitor.

I'm at chapter five. The game is not bad. it's picking up.

 

[daze23]

Yeah I don't get it. 30fps looks off when I play on PC.

it has to do with frame pacing. basically "30 frames per second" just means it spit out 30 frames in one second, but it doesn't mean they came in even intervals. an extreme example would be spitting out 29 frames in half a second, and only one frame the next half a second. that would still be "30 frames per second"

games that aim for 30fps can take steps to make sure this doesn't happen. on PC I think they usually recommend to limit the framerate to 30 and use some kind of half-refresh-rate vsync

it's not an issue at 60fps (on a 60hz screen) because it has to be spitting out one frame per cycle