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Scarborough:
Tuxedo crt
Malvern and Galloway
Mississauga:
Applewood buildings
Toronto:
Regent Park
Driftwood
Jamestown
Parma court
South side Jane and finch
Jungle
Flemo Park
Scarborough:
Tuxedo crt
Malvern and Galloway
Mississauga:
Applewood buildings
Toronto:
Regent Park
Driftwood
Jamestown
Parma court
South side Jane and finch
Jungle
Flemo Park
You want mans to get shot on his VayKay?
Just go downtown. College St, Yonge, Spadina, and Kensington Market. Lots of clubs, bars and weed shops there.
Unless you wanna fukk some shorties, don't come to Brampton, Hamilton, or Sauga too
Yo I've heard about that place that and Paisley Blvd. in sauga
Those places are Roach nests that pretend to be actual apartments.
The Odum of Ala Igbo
Hail Biafra!
If anyone in that "slum" owns their property
thatrapsfan
Superstar
What is this?
The Odum of Ala Igbo
Hail Biafra!
Who are these two upstanding citizens?
Cellphone murder trial: Mohamed Sail found not guilty of cellphone-shooting death of Jeremy Cook
BY JANE SIMS
Updated: September 19, 2017
Mohamed Sail walks out of a London court Monday afternoon a free man as his mother says, ?Justice has been made.? (MIKE HENSEN, The London Free Press)
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Freed of a murder charge, Mohamed Sail walked out of the London courthouse Monday with his mother on his arm and a cellphone glued to his ear.
It was an ironic twist after a trial where he was acquitted by a jury of second-degree murder of Jeremy Cook, 18, a Brampton teen who died trying to retrieve his stolen cellphone in London from Sail, 26, and the late Muhab Sultan, 23, both from Calgary.
Only Sail or Sultan could have fired the .40 calibre bullets into the teenager.
Cook died at the hands of a shooter.
Sultan died fleeing police.
Sail was acquitted.
All over a cellphone.
After two weeks of evidence, the jury was asked if it was convinced “beyond a reasonable doubt” that Sail pulled the trigger.
After less than two hours of deliberations, and that included lunch, the jury of six men and six women found Sail not guilty of the one count he faced.
There was a stunned silence in the courtroom when the verdict was read.
Cook’s parents, who were there with a large group of supporters, sobbed.
Once the jury left, Sail was free to go.
He didn’t want to say anything as he sauntered out the courthouse front doors with his family, but indicated he was happy before returning to his phone conversation.
“Justice has been made,” his mother said joyfully as they made their way away from the building.
After more than two years in custody for her son as he awaited trial, Sail’s mother said they’re heading home to Calgary, far away from what happened in the Shoppers Drug Mart parking lot early June 14, 2015.
It began just down Highbury Avenue in London at the McDonald’s restaurant where Cook and his sister, Kayla, had tracked the phone Cook had left in a cab earlier in the evening to a car at the pick-up window. They’d approached the car, thinking whoever was there would just give back what was rightfully Cook’s.
They didn’t know Sultan had a long criminal record and one of the two men in the car was packing a .40 calibre, semi-automatic prohibited handgun.
After teasing them with the phone, Sultan hit the gas. Kayla was thrown backwards and Cook, who had just begun a carpentry apprenticeship in London, was left hanging onto the car with his feet skidding along the asphalt.
At the parking lot, Sultan would stop, cut the engine and, within seconds of two gunshots, someone was yelling, “drive, drive.”
By then, only three people would have been able to tell with certainty what happened.
Cook was dead in the parking lot.
Sultan, the man Sail travelled with to London from Calgary two weeks earlier, drowned two weeks after the shooting in the Rideau River while fleeing the police.
That left Sail, who really didn’t have to say much of anything. It was Sultan’s suspicious activities in the days following Cook’s death that weighed heavily on the case.
Sultan became the fall guy. Within minutes of the shooting, he crashed the car that Cook had tried to stop. He took a bus to Toronto.
The jury never heard from Sail. His defence team relied heavily on Sultan’s quick exit from London, the text messages from Sultan’s phone where he tried to come up with an alibi and get some money wired to him from his dad, and his final acts of desperation in Ottawa where he was hiding out.
In the moments before he jumped into the fast river, Sultan gave police officers a false name, sped away backwards before righting the car and taking off and finally running off on foot into the river. Those movements, defence lawyer Sharon Jeethan argued in her final submissions, pointed to the actions of a guilty man.
“He was the shooter and he was running for his life,” she said.
What the jury was left with was a man who was seen walking quickly from where the car was dumped, who politely took a cab to a London address, left his wallet behind so he could pay the bill the next day and who turned himself in to London police once there was a warrant issued for his arrest.
Middlesex County Deputy Crown attorney Fraser Ball argued the physical evidence pointed with certainty to Sail as the shooter. He said the bullets came from the passenger side of the car, one from inside and one outside; the casings would have expended to the right; that a man resembling Sultan was outside the car without a gun.
And Sail was caught in a police phone intercept in Alberta a couple months earlier, trying to buy a “Glock 40” — a 40-calibre handgun.
“Mohamed Sail . . . in finding Jeremy Cook’s cellphone, decided to shoot him dead instead of simply giving it back,” Ball said.
But, it appears the jury just wasn’t sure.
Cook’s supporters, many of whom wore large buttons with Cook’s photo in the courtroom, left court with heads down and no comments.
Cook’s father, Fred, emotional in the hallway during one of the recesses, walked out with his daughter. Kayla, the last family member to see her little brother alive, walked quickly with him
just came across this today, my time travels. no justice for the family 
dude who is surely the trigger man is dead and this nikka gets to walk away scott free.
dude who is surely the trigger man is dead and this nikka gets to walk away scott free.
Man, 19, killed in Scarborough shooting identified
Jago Anderson, 19, is seen in this undated photo. (Toronto Police Service)
Kayla Goodfield, CP24.com
Published Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:57PM EDT
Last Updated Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:00PM EDT
A 19-year-old man killed in a Scarborough shooting on Tuesday night has been identified by Toronto police.
The fatal incident took place in the area of Brimley Road and Sheppard Avenue East at around 10 p.m.
According to investigators, the male victim was found on the ground outside of a building suffering from a gunshot wound when they arrived. He was pronounced dead at the scene by Toronto paramedics.
The scene of a fatal shooting in Scarborough is seen.
The victim, who police initially believed was in his 20s, has been identified as Toronto-resident Jago Anderson.
No information regarding any possible suspects wanted in connection with this case has been released but officers said they are searching for a dark-coloured newer-model SUV that was spotted fleeing the scene travelling eastbound on Sheppard Avenue East.
This is the city's 78th homicide of 2018.
Jago Anderson, 19, is seen in this undated photo. (Toronto Police Service)
Kayla Goodfield, CP24.com
Published Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:57PM EDT
Last Updated Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:00PM EDT
A 19-year-old man killed in a Scarborough shooting on Tuesday night has been identified by Toronto police.
The fatal incident took place in the area of Brimley Road and Sheppard Avenue East at around 10 p.m.
According to investigators, the male victim was found on the ground outside of a building suffering from a gunshot wound when they arrived. He was pronounced dead at the scene by Toronto paramedics.
The scene of a fatal shooting in Scarborough is seen.
The victim, who police initially believed was in his 20s, has been identified as Toronto-resident Jago Anderson.
No information regarding any possible suspects wanted in connection with this case has been released but officers said they are searching for a dark-coloured newer-model SUV that was spotted fleeing the scene travelling eastbound on Sheppard Avenue East.
This is the city's 78th homicide of 2018.
word on the skreets is this was a lover's quarrel....
thatrapsfan
Superstar
@MVike28 @FireDwaneCasey 
this was a scam?
this was a scam? - There are growing calls for stronger homebuyer protections in the wake of a second major condo cancellation at the Vaughan Metropolitan Centre, this time affecting buyers of 1,633 units in the sold-out Icona buildings that were launched between January and March last year.
The project by the Gupta Group at Highway 7 and Edgeley Blvd. was supposed to include the tallest condo in Vaughan at 55 storeys. But this week, the developer sent cancellation letters dated Sept. 14, citing “circumstances beyond our control that make the project unfinanceable.”
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A sketch of the proposed Icona Condos at Highway 7 and Edgeley Blvd. in Vaughan. Builder Gupta Group has cancelled the project, saying it was “unfinanceable.” (GUPTA GROUP)
Gupta Group did not respond immediately to a call and email to its offices Wednesday afternoon from the Toronto Star. A communications representative for the company emailed a statement saying the purchasers’ deposits had been returned “after years of hard work (and) considerable financial investment.”
“We have refunded purchaser deposits in full and without delay,” the statement said.
But that did little to appease angry, disappointed buyers in the project, who told the Star they had only recently paid the last instalments on their deposits.
“It’s not fair,” said Patricia DeBartolo, who invested in a $530,000, three-bedroom condo for her daughters to live in while attending school and starting their careers in Toronto.
“If (the Gupta Group) can’t get the financing or they want to turn around and sell it for more money we can’t stop them. But it’s not correct that they’ve had our money for a year, an interest-free loan to use it as they want,” she said.
The Bradford woman, who works in Vaughan, said she bought a condo in February 2017, in part because it made financial sense to own it given high Toronto rents and the Icona’s proximity to a new TTC station.
“At that time it was perfect. Now you’d never get that and I certainly wouldn’t go and spend $700,000 for a condo, which is what they’re going for at those sizes,” said DeBartolo.
The cancellation comes about six months after Liberty Developments cancelled the Cosmos condos along the same stretch of Highway 7. About half the buyers in that three-tower project of about 1,000 units are asking a court to cancel their purchase agreements so they can sue the developer for the lost appreciation on their purchases during the two years in which Liberty held their deposits.
Lawyer Ted Charney, who is representing the Cosmos buyers, said he was swamped with emails from Icona purchasers on Wednesday. He said the province and building industry regulator Tarion need to do more for buyers when developers kill projects for vague or undisclosed reasons.
“Tarion is supposed to protect consumers. So far as we know it has done nothing about the last cancelled project (Cosmos). Nor has the provincial government or Premier (Doug) Ford. Therefore it should come as no surprise that in today’s condominium market projects will continue to be cancelled for lack of “satisfactory financing,” he said.
“Icona Developments Inc. has not disclosed to purchasers how it went about meeting its contractual obligations to make all reasonably commercial efforts to secure satisfactory financing,” added Charney.
Buyer Drita Jakupovski borrowed against her home to invest in the Icona condo. By the time her son, who is still in high school, is ready to own a home it won’t be affordable, she said.
There have been 11 residential project cancellations representing about 4,000 units since early 2017, according to Shaun Hildebrand, president of Urbanation, a market research company. He thinks the Toronto area could potentially see more, but nothing on the scale of Icona and Cosmos.
“Many of the projects that appeared to be candidates for cancellation a few months ago have now started work on their sites, so the list has been pared down quite a lot,” he said.
The City of Vaughan had not been formally notified about the Icona cancellation, said a statement attributed to Mayor Maurizio Bevilacqua.
“To have heard about it through the media is extremely unfortunate, and we are now looking into the matter,” it said. “This is disappointing and a poor way to do business in our city.”
In another statement, the City of Vaughan said it shares the buyers’ frustration and disappointment, but that consumer protection is the province’s jurisdiction.
“City council sent a formal written request to the ministry of government and consumer services in May 2018, asking for a review of the legislation governing the marketing, presale and cancellation of pre-construction condominium projects. We hope the new provincial administration will take action on our request shortly,” it said.
Meantime, DeBartolo said it’s small investors like her who are feeding the economy.
“We just get victimized,” she said. “It’s not like I’m a high roller and I’ve got thousands of dollars in the bank.”
@MVike28 @FireDwaneCasey
- There are growing calls for stronger homebuyer protections in the wake of a second major condo cancellation at the Vaughan Metropolitan Centre, this time affecting buyers of 1,633 units in the sold-out Icona buildings that were launched between January and March last year.
The project by the Gupta Group at Highway 7 and Edgeley Blvd. was supposed to include the tallest condo in Vaughan at 55 storeys. But this week, the developer sent cancellation letters dated Sept. 14, citing “circumstances beyond our control that make the project unfinanceable.”
A sketch of the proposed Icona Condos at Highway 7 and Edgeley Blvd. in Vaughan. Builder Gupta Group has cancelled the project, saying it was “unfinanceable.” (GUPTA GROUP)
Gupta Group did not respond immediately to a call and email to its offices Wednesday afternoon from the Toronto Star. A communications representative for the company emailed a statement saying the purchasers’ deposits had been returned “after years of hard work (and) considerable financial investment.”
“We have refunded purchaser deposits in full and without delay,” the statement said.
But that did little to appease angry, disappointed buyers in the project, who told the Star they had only recently paid the last instalments on their deposits.
“It’s not fair,” said Patricia DeBartolo, who invested in a $530,000, three-bedroom condo for her daughters to live in while attending school and starting their careers in Toronto.
“If (the Gupta Group) can’t get the financing or they want to turn around and sell it for more money we can’t stop them. But it’s not correct that they’ve had our money for a year, an interest-free loan to use it as they want,” she said.
The Bradford woman, who works in Vaughan, said she bought a condo in February 2017, in part because it made financial sense to own it given high Toronto rents and the Icona’s proximity to a new TTC station.
“At that time it was perfect. Now you’d never get that and I certainly wouldn’t go and spend $700,000 for a condo, which is what they’re going for at those sizes,” said DeBartolo.
The cancellation comes about six months after Liberty Developments cancelled the Cosmos condos along the same stretch of Highway 7. About half the buyers in that three-tower project of about 1,000 units are asking a court to cancel their purchase agreements so they can sue the developer for the lost appreciation on their purchases during the two years in which Liberty held their deposits.
Lawyer Ted Charney, who is representing the Cosmos buyers, said he was swamped with emails from Icona purchasers on Wednesday. He said the province and building industry regulator Tarion need to do more for buyers when developers kill projects for vague or undisclosed reasons.
“Tarion is supposed to protect consumers. So far as we know it has done nothing about the last cancelled project (Cosmos). Nor has the provincial government or Premier (Doug) Ford. Therefore it should come as no surprise that in today’s condominium market projects will continue to be cancelled for lack of “satisfactory financing,” he said.
“Icona Developments Inc. has not disclosed to purchasers how it went about meeting its contractual obligations to make all reasonably commercial efforts to secure satisfactory financing,” added Charney.
Buyer Drita Jakupovski borrowed against her home to invest in the Icona condo. By the time her son, who is still in high school, is ready to own a home it won’t be affordable, she said.
There have been 11 residential project cancellations representing about 4,000 units since early 2017, according to Shaun Hildebrand, president of Urbanation, a market research company. He thinks the Toronto area could potentially see more, but nothing on the scale of Icona and Cosmos.
“Many of the projects that appeared to be candidates for cancellation a few months ago have now started work on their sites, so the list has been pared down quite a lot,” he said.
The City of Vaughan had not been formally notified about the Icona cancellation, said a statement attributed to Mayor Maurizio Bevilacqua.
“To have heard about it through the media is extremely unfortunate, and we are now looking into the matter,” it said. “This is disappointing and a poor way to do business in our city.”
In another statement, the City of Vaughan said it shares the buyers’ frustration and disappointment, but that consumer protection is the province’s jurisdiction.
“City council sent a formal written request to the ministry of government and consumer services in May 2018, asking for a review of the legislation governing the marketing, presale and cancellation of pre-construction condominium projects. We hope the new provincial administration will take action on our request shortly,” it said.
Meantime, DeBartolo said it’s small investors like her who are feeding the economy.
“We just get victimized,” she said. “It’s not like I’m a high roller and I’ve got thousands of dollars in the bank.”
These developers are crooks
The condos on Vaughan a few years ago were selling for 250k pre construction now you can't find a 1bdrm under 400k so by cancelling they can sell the land to another developer make more money and screw everyone over.