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I mean, they are still getting applications. They can hire from those 3 people.

It doesn't work like that breh, those 3 people applying also apply to other hospitals

You're not just applying to sick kids you're applying to Toronto general and trillium etc.


Pre covid youd get like 30-50 applications for a nursing job
 

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People don't really know how bad it is. I work for one of the biggest hospital networks in the city, and you can post a job for a full time nurse and only get like 3 applicants in a month.:picard:
My wife is a nurse. Why would she want to work full time knowing PSW's are making more per hour. The system was rigged against nurses by the Ford administration.
 

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My wife is a nurse. Why would she want to work full time knowing PSW's are making more per hour. The system was rigged against nurses by the Ford administration.

Lots of nurses going to BC. Ford’s zeal in crushing unionized labour will gut Ontario’s services.

Very sad.
 

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My wife is a nurse. Why would she want to work full time knowing PSW's are making more per hour. The system was rigged against nurses by the Ford administration.

These nurses are well compensated for the work they do.
 

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These nurses are well compensated for the work they do.

nope

nurses due to ONA collective bargaining start at 34.24 per hour

after a year you make 34.40
after 2 years 34.97
after 3 years 36.70
after 4 years 38.43
after 5 years 40.59
after 6 years 42.78
after 7 years 44.97
after 8 years 48.17
and then after 25 years 49.02

in BC nurses start 36.23
 

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nope

nurses due to ONA collective bargaining start at 34.24 per hour

after a year you make 34.40
after 2 years 34.97
after 3 years 36.70
after 4 years 38.43
after 5 years 40.59
after 6 years 42.78
after 7 years 44.97
after 8 years 48.17
and then after 25 years 49.02

in BC nurses start 36.23
Those increments are horrible.

Why would any RN stay in expensive Ontario, when they can go to the western provinces, or the US, where they are compensated better and pay less for their cost of living?

Ontario is a failed province.
 

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Those increments are horrible.

Why would any RN stay in expensive Ontario, when they can go to the western provinces, or the US, where they are compensated better and pay less for their cost of living?

Ontario is a failed province.

exactly
or go up north, my cousin and his wife both nurses work up in nunavut and get paid like 65 a hour and have housing provided for
 

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Those increments are horrible.

Why would any RN stay in expensive Ontario, when they can go to the western provinces, or the US, where they are compensated better and pay less for their cost of living?

Ontario is a failed province.

Canada is actually one of the top countries when it comes to nursing salaries, the US falls far behind.

These nurses in Ontario are well compensated for what they do, and of the outside GTA, Ontario is still relatively cheap place to live.

 

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Canada is actually one of the top countries when it comes to nursing salaries, the US falls far behind.

These nurses in Ontario are well compensated for what they do, and of the outside GTA, Ontario is still relatively cheap place to live.


article is false they didn't convert

48usd is 65.58 Canadian Dollar

3. Canada - $75,660 per year, $48.50 per hour (USD)


75,000 United States Dollar equals 102,475.12 Canadian Dollar
 

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article is false they didn't convert

48usd is 65.58 Canadian Dollar

3. Canada - $75,660 per year, $48.50 per hour (USD)


75,000 United States Dollar equals 102,475.12 Canadian Dollar

We are looking at the overall package..

Salary + benefits. Keep in mind also the US has a lot of private hospitals, and that 7% of US private sector workers have a union. Unlike the case in Canada
 

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nope

nurses due to ONA collective bargaining start at 34.24 per hour

after a year you make 34.40
after 2 years 34.97
after 3 years 36.70
after 4 years 38.43
after 5 years 40.59
after 6 years 42.78
after 7 years 44.97
after 8 years 48.17
and then after 25 years 49.02

in BC nurses start 36.23
Seems low for their accountabilities and working environment :patrice:
 

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We are looking at the overall package..

Salary + benefits. Keep in mind also the US has a lot of private hospitals, and that 7% of US private sector workers have a union. Unlike the case in Canada

Taxes, union dudes and hoopp pension make it even

Hoopp takes 9 percent of your paycheque :to:
 

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Seems low for their accountabilities and working environment :patrice:

And these have been the wages for the past 3 plus years due to the freeze on wages

I work in healthcare but I work from home and spend most of my days watching tv and playing Fifa and I make more
 

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Canada is actually one of the top countries when it comes to nursing salaries, the US falls far behind.

These nurses in Ontario are well compensated for what they do, and of the outside GTA, Ontario is still relatively cheap place to live.

My gripe isn't with all of Canada, it is with Ontario.

Ontario Nurses will tell you their colleagues left and are making more money outside of Ontario.

If Ontario continues to not be competitive salary wise then they will continue to deal with the brain drain to other provinces and countries.

A lot of my family members are Nurses, Doctors, Pharmacists, etc, and they are all way more compensated in the States than here in Canada. It's the main reason why they refuse to leave the states and work here.

Plus their cost of living is much cheaper so more money stays in their pockets.
 
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