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thatrapsfan
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Compare and contrast to Ford humming and hawing and being completely indecisive:
thatrapsfan
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Honestly don’t think that’s the real problem, 90 percent of adults are vaccinated. Antivaxxers are few and far between. Very few countries have higher rates. Our hospital capacity is pitiful and can get overrun by numbers most wealthy countries can manage with ease
both ways don’t think regular people should accept rolling restrictions because hospitals are mismanaged and underfunded.
waltthizzney
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Take a look at this for totals death in BC standardized for age ect
BCCDC Mortality Context App
Basically more people died in 2013 and 2017 than 2020. This whole thing is a joke.
They are month late with this lock down. They put profits ahead of public health once again.
Too busy playing politics instead of doing the right thing.
Too busy playing politics instead of doing the right thing.
lol the lockdown is a joke because the malls are still open, if the disease is so transmissible Malls should be the first thing to be shut down.
I can't go to a restaurant and sit down and eat with a bunch of vaccinated people, but I can go to eatons centre and walk around for hours and be surrounded by vaccinated and unvaccinated people.
Honestly don’t think that’s the real problem, 90 percent of adults are vaccinated. Antivaxxers are few and far between. Very few countries have higher rates. Our hospital capacity is pitiful and can get overrun by numbers most wealthy countries can manage with ease
not really mismanaged, Government gives one lump sum to a hospital, out of that lump sum like 75% is already off the top gone to salaries. So you have 25% for everything else and the only way you get more money is through donations through your hospital Foundation.
Ford sitting on billions, nurses salaries are frozen. The system is broken, you can be a nurse in welland ontario making the same as a nurse working in a busy downtown hospital in toronto
thatrapsfan
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Every US city has more deaths than Toronto but that isn’t attributed to open schools - NYC had long periods of online schooling as well. It’s because Americans on average are in much poorer health than Canada.
Denmark has less COVID per capita deaths than Canada and hasn’t closed schools despite other restrictions:
Denmark has ‘no plans’ to delay return to schools despite Covid-19 cases
Outcomes on country by country basis often say a lot more about overall demographics (like average age), health, and hospital capacity than it does about what they chose to shut down.
thatrapsfan
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not really mismanaged, Government gives one lump sum to a hospital, out of that lump sum like 75% is already off the top gone to salaries. So you have 25% for everything else and the only way you get more money is through donations through your hospital Foundation.
Ford sitting on billions, nurses salaries are frozen. The system is broken, you can be a nurse in welland ontario making the same as a nurse working in a busy downtown hospital in toronto
Hey I didn’t vote for Ford. I remember you brehs proudly voting for him and celebrating when he won
but I think health care spending and capacity problem far exceeds a billion or so dollars ( a lot of it is allocated funding that shows up when spent in future forecasts)
Reality is Canadian health care costs have skyrocketed while health transfers and provincial spending increases always remain just above inflation. If we want a universal system with more capacity better paid staff etc it’ll require major spending increases ( and probably tax increases) which is why no politician will touch it.
Brandsdale
Big Yella