The Official "Thor: Love & Thunder" Thread

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"A multiverse with one timeline" is nonsensical

it's not.

one is the mechanics/rules driven definition of what it is: multiverse

the other is the current state: one timeline

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when HWR died no rules of the multiverse changed. it didn't become something else. the physical laws remained 110% the same.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

it's not.

one is the mechanics/rules driven definition of what it is: multiverse

the other is the current state: one timeline

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when HWR died no rules of the multiverse changed. it didn't become something else. the physical laws remained 110% the same.

The main timeline is the universe. Not the current state of the multiverse. It has the potential to become a multiverse if other universes are let to grow as timelines are created. No need for any change in any physical rule.

Is a pair composed of a unique individual a pair?

 

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The main timeline is the universe. Not the current state of the multiverse. It has the potential to become a multiverse if other universes are let to grow as timelines are created. No need for any change in any physical rule.

Is a pair composed of a unique individual a pair?

this is a set of shoes containing zero pairs of shoes = { }

the fact that there are no shoes no shoes in it doesn't change what it is.

 

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[MischievousMonkey]

this is a set of shoes containing zero pairs of shoes = { }

the fact that there are no shoes no shoes in it doesn't change what it is.

Ok. A multiverse composed of zero universes is a multiverse.
A pair of shoes composed of zero shoes is still a pair of shoes.
I'm an only child but I'm still part of a pair of twins. Alright. Let's suppose.

There's a multiverse composed of one single universe during the entirety of He Who Remains' administration of the TVA after he unified the timelines, making the events that happened during No Way Home and the sequel to Dr Strange impossible. Sylvie's actions led to the creation of an infinity of other universes that filled up this conceptual, non-effective multiverse, making it a reality that justified plots based on the multiverse.

For simplicity, since this perspective doesn't seem to affect my understanding of the Loki series or phase 4, I'll refer to every multiverse composed of one single universe as a universe, every pair composed of a unique individual as an individual, and every only child as just an only child, and not a half of twins, a third of triplets, a fourth of quadruplets, etc

 

[nairdas]

Oh I don't know if this brought up in this thread yet (I'm sure it has ) but this by far was the gayest marvel movie to date. Even I was like damn they're doing a lot.

 

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Ok. A multiverse composed of zero universes is a multiverse.

yes

A pair of shoes composed of zero shoes is still a pair of shoes.

no. an empty set of shoes ....

I'm an only child but I'm still part of a pair of twins. Alright. Let's suppose.

Sylvie's actions led to the creation of an infinity of other universes that filled up this conceptual, non-effective multiverse, making it a reality that justified plots based on the multiverse.

"led to" ... not in the traditional time-ordered sense.

when HWR died all of the existing time-line changed at the same time (because as time is a loop this includes things which in the human-arrow-of-time sense appear to be in the past) and branches start happening everywhere.

remember that the universal war that MM spoke about may be in the "past" for the TVA but may well be in the "simple" future for the marvel timeline i.e. post 2025.

the way HWR talks about it, it would seem so.

HWR was living at "the end of time" after all, so everything was in his relative past.

For simplicity, since this perspective doesn't seem to affect my understanding of the Loki series or phase 4, I'll refer to every multiverse composed of one single universe as a universe, every pair composed of a unique individual as an individual, and every only child as just an only child, and not a half of twins, a third of triplets, a fourth of quadruplets, etc

you could but that is not the case.

i'm not getting into the MM truth/lies/whateva arguments but suffice to say this

 

[HipHopStan]

5 Problems with another Thor sequel:

1. Thor has confessed that his people have cannibalized their children. Not a joke you can just gloss over.
2. The gods of the universe are all evil a$$holes and Thor wasn’t concerned until they wouldn’t help him.
3. Thor's powers aren’t unique and can be passed to anyone including children. Why keep them in his incompetent hands?
4. He’s got a kid now. He can’t just leave her at home but isn’t going to be able to fight every battle with children.
5. Death has no real consequences. Valhalla exists, and characters like Korg and Gor's daughter are just brought back for plot.

So basically, we’ve established that Thor is a bad guy. He only cares about himself and only stops evil when it directly affects him, or the conflict will benefit him. Even then he causes so much collateral damage. He eats children when he doesn’t make them fight his battles and he’s now in charge of a child with the power of eternity. No one is rooting for him anymore

 

[Conz]

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this sequence alone is better than the entire MoM movie.

 

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5 Problems with another Thor sequel:

1. Thor has confessed that his people have cannibalized their children. Not a joke you can just gloss over.
2. The gods of the universe are all evil a$$holes and Thor wasn’t concerned until they wouldn’t help him.
3. Thor's powers aren’t unique and can be passed to anyone including children. Why keep them in his incompetent hands?
4. He’s got a kid now. He can’t just leave her at home but isn’t going to be able to fight every battle with children.
5. Death has no real consequences. Valhalla exists, and characters like Korg and Gor's daughter are just brought back for plot.

So basically, we’ve established that Thor is a bad guy. He only cares about himself and only stops evil when it directly affects him, or the conflict will benefit him. Even then he causes so much collateral damage. He eats children when he doesn’t make them fight his battles and he’s now in charge of a child with the power of eternity. No one is rooting for him anymore

taika burnt through a lot of thor's narrative foundations in just two movies.

the devaluation of "powers" really has to stop.

don't these guys realise that they are chipping away at what makes the whole MCU special in the first place.

powers should be "exceptional".

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

https://twitter.com/fukkbentrash/status/1548339987397062658

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

An almost a 70% drop at the box office? Wow. this shyt blew its wad and no one else cares to see it. Almost matched BvS.

 

[Ain't That Something]

Movie wasn't bad, but I could have done without the climax battle with all the little kids. shyt felt madly unnecessary. Also wish they delves more into Gore. Felt like that is a storyline that was hardly missed. IF I was in Charge that Gore plot line could have developed over 3-4 movies as they delves into the God realm. This could have been a mini MCU saga on its own.

 

[Luke Cage]

An almost a 70% drop at the box office? Wow. this shyt blew its wad and no one else cares to see it. Almost matched BvS.

Marvel films will have big opening weekends just off the strength of being Marvel. but if it's actually a good film, word of mouth will drive people who usually wait for streaming or don't watch at all to the theaters in the second week. Maybe even join them for repeat viewing. i get the feeling nobody left this movie telling all their friends that they have to see this.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I don’t think Marvel has fallen or at least I don’t think they did.

But in My opinion. This phase …. Phase 4 is an example of Marvel doing on one phase everything people like many in the coli been criticizing or saying they should’ve done for 3 phases or said back then “they was failing then cuz they didn’t do _____”

So to me Phase 4 is damning proof that the TSC vocal critics and anyone from the past that judged harshly clearly never knew what the fukk they was talking about and should’ve just STFU and let them cook.

I hope y’all learned YALL lessons and if y’all want Phase 1-3 in Phase 5 then relax and don’t say nothing ever again cuz you were wrong

Lol @ @humminbird giving a pity dap to this post