The Official Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev vs Andre "S.O.G." Ward Fight Thread

WHO WINS? KOVALEV OR WARD?

  • KOVALEV by KNOCKOUT

  • KOVALEV by UNANIMOUS DECISION

  • KOVALEV by SPLIT DECISION

  • WARD by KNOCKOUT

  • WARD by UNANIMOUS DECISION

  • WARD by SPLIT DECISION

  • DRAW


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HeruDat1

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:jbhmm: How do yall score fights? I'm looking at the people whining about Compubox stats, now.

So I look them up and Kov landed... 10 more punches the entire fight.

Round 2 was +13, 10 was +5, and he outlanded SOG in 4 other rounds by no more than 2 punches.

Maybe I'm trippin but I've always accounted for defense and offensive efficiency when I "judge" rounds. It doesn't even seem to be a category to a lot of other folks. Kov threw 200 more punches, but folks are clinging onto that +10 as if that's how we're supposed to judge fights.

shyt makes no sense.

I guess connect percentage is the best measurable metric but more credit and emphasis should be given to defensive counter attacks shyt we need a commentator who gets as excited as Lampley does when he sees a power punch, to get excited over fighters who counter and negate power punches.

In most sports defense is just as if not more important as offense but when people watch fights the offense is sexy, it's easy to spot with the eye , shyt they don't even see defense.
 

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I gave Ward a lot of rounds based on ring generalship. I saw Ward working while Kov was holding him in a headlock looking for the ref to break them up. I saw Ward neutralize Kov's offense.

Was it your typical, resounding SOG one-sided performance? No. Was it pretty? fukk no.

But Ward definitely made it HIS fight and Sergey didn't have any response. It's just unfortunate that Andre not only gets denied his just due for what he just did, but vilified for it.
this fight was mega close..it could go either way..a draw OK? but ward made a statement more than kovalev IMO. came back from a shyt round 2 and adjusted..fight was close. lmao @ kovalev dominated the fight because was coming foward??? LOL
 

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I mentioned it in the boxing thread but that 3rd round is what broke kov imo same way when Mosley damn near decapitated Floyd in round 2 and Floyd came out for round 3 like :ufdup: Ward came back and won that round that HAD to fukk with dude. I think at that point kov lost the fight mentally he won a round or two after that but Ward got some of the middle and swept the championship rds to me.

I said it in the beginning of this thread Ward has that dog in him and I don't think Kov does. Ironically of all the names on his resume Bika was the one who I saw bring it out of him in glimpses. :dead:
 

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I mentioned it in the boxing thread but that 3rd round is what broke kov imo same way when Mosley damn near decapitated Floyd in round 2 and Floyd came out for round 3 like :ufdup: Ward came back and won that round that HAD to fukk with dude. I think at that point kov lost the fight mentally he won a round or two after that but Ward got some of the middle and swept the championship rds to me.

I said it in the beginning of this thread Ward has that dog in him and I don't think Kov does. Ironically of all the names on his resume Bika was the one who I saw bring it out of him in glimpses. :dead:

Bika the kind of dude you wanna fight after it's over....dude is filthy foul filled dude...he gave Ward fits....not even on a skill level but like a Reggie Miller kind of way....
 

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If ppl can't appreciate a dude who missed basically 3 years went up in weight fought 3 so-so fights and went straight for the top guy with no catchweight going against a human tank of a fighter they are plain hating....what Ward did was VERY VERY special....there's a handful of guys in history who could have ate that punch (and he was hurt....he would never admit it)....and came back and kept their composure. Anyone else at LHW would have gotten steamrolled.
 

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so 200k a failure now huh :jbhmm:

Nah 200k is a failure for a guy like Pacman/Floyd

200k is a success for a guy like Ward and a non draw in Kov.

i wonder if these same media nikkas thought 97k was a failure tho
Again, with all PPV's, not apples to apples, which is why is can't and shouldn't be a direct comparison to Floyd...or GGG.

GGG-Lemieux was based off a 150k break even, with both guys getting $2 million ish.
Ward- Kovalev had a bigger purse, with Ward getting $5 million and Kovalev $2 million.
I thought I heard the break even was around 250k...but dont quote me on that.

I think based on the matchup Kovalev-Ward is a far superior matchup and should do more based off that..but HBO did a shytty job promoting it.

All said and done, I expect the PPV numbers to be fine for what should be expected of it, except for Ward's purse, but that is on Roc Nation, kudos to Ward for negotiating a great deal.

This fight has brought out too much GGG talk...we should keep it Ward-Kovalev because they gave us a great fight and deserve the credit. But if we are talking PPV numbers...I think the biggest story is still Pacquiao's latest numbers. Shunned by HBO and once a box office star, turned in mediocre at best, most likely very disappointing PPV performance.
 

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I had it 114-113 Kov

1-4 (10-8 in round 2) Kov
5-9 Ward
10 -Kov
11 - Ward
12 - Kov

You can make a case for Draw or even Ward 114-113, but Lederman and Malignaggi's cards were off to me.
 

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I had it 114-113 Kov

1-4 (10-8 in round 2) Kov
5-9 Ward
10 -Kov
11 - Ward
12 - Kov

You can make a case for Draw or even Ward 114-113, but Lederman and Malignaggi's cards were off to me.

You can make a case for rounds 3, 4, and 12 going to Ward
 

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The same people telling people to live with the scoring of Kovalev-Ward better not ever bring up Pea-Chavez being a 'robbery' then #boxing
11:34 pm - 20 Nov 2016

Steve kim and his bytch boys think they're smart..

Thats a dumb comparison. Anyone who gave Chavez more than 3 rounds in that fight should be institutionalized. Ward vs Kov regardless of who you had winning was really close. I think anything in the realm of a 4 point swing is off to me.
 

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as I see it, being a close fight a lot of ppl just scored it based on their bias at the end of the day.
If they favored Kov's style then Kov won it for them by a few, if they preferred Ward's then him. Both made a case tbh...
That's why most media members got Kovalev. Kovalev is simply just more popular or at least his style is so with a razor close fight like this more people will give it to him.
I doN't mean "bias" now as a negative term but simply as a natural simpathy for a fighter/style. Kovalev being the action fighter just appeals to more people, even among media members, just latter ones -since they are not casuals - usually have enough sense to admit that regardless what they scored this was close and not a robbery, except a very few of them who shamefully went down to the casual level crying robbery (Lederman, Doug Fischer).
Now casuals are like Kovalev and his style better by an even higher chance and they alsdo don't really understand the whole thing (sorry but true) hence why many of them cries robbery.


OF course there can be exceptions but imo most of the times the way someone scored THIS fight tells who s/he rooted for or which style s/he prefers overall

I can absolutely see Ward legitely winning this and -surprise - I rooted for him and his style is closer to me

Shaun Brown (TalkingBoxing.uk): 115-112 Kovalev
Harold Lederman (HBO): 116-111 Kovalev
Chris Mannix (Yahoo Sports): 115-112 Kovalev
Boxhard Podcast: 115-113 Kovalev
Dan Rafael (ESPN): 115-112 Kovalev
Andy Paterson (Boxing Asylum): 114-113 Kovalev
Cliff Rold (Boxingscene): 115-112 Kovalev
Daniel Vano (Checkhookboxing): 114-113 Kovalev
WorldBoxingNews: 114-113 Ward
Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 115-112 Kovalev
Ryan Burton (Boxingscene): 115-113 Kovalev
Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
Daniel Attias (AUSboxing) : 114-113 Kovalev
Victor M Salazar (Boxingscene): 115-112 Kovalev
Scott Christ (BadLeftHook): 115-112 Kovalev
Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
Beau Denison (The Boxing Truth): 114-113 Kovalev
Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 115-112 Kovalev
Boxing Monthly Online: 114-113 Kovalev
Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report): 115-112 Kovalev
Steve Zemach ( FoxSports640): 115-112 Kovalev
Bernardo Osuna (ESPN Deportes): 115-113 Kovalev
Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing): 116-111 Kovalev
Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
Ben Weismann (BoxingAsylum): 114-113 Kovalev
Tom Craze (BadLeftHook): 116-111 Ward
Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
Jorge Hernandez (SW Fight): 115-112 Kovalev
Tim Starks (Queensberry Rules): 115-112 Kovalev
The Guardian Online: 115-112 Kovalev
New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
G. Leon (Boxtalk): 114-113 Kovalev
Tim Dahlberg (AP): 116-111 Kovalev
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-112 Kovalev
Steve Kim (UCN Live): 115-112 Kovalev
Bokser.org: 115-112 Kovalev
Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Kovalev
FightersRated: 115-112 Kovalev
LA Times Online: 114-113 Ward
Allan Fox (Boxingnews24): 117-110 Kovalev
Kieran Mulvaney (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
Ron Borges (Boston Herald): 116-114 Kovalev
Tony Bellew (Sky Sports): 114-114 DRAW
Eric Raskin (HBO): 114-113 Kovalev
Heavy Bag Boxing: 115-112 Kovalev
Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly): 117-111 Kovalev
Stephen A Smith (ESPN): 114-113 Kovalev
Paul Smith Jnr (Sky Sports): 116-113 Ward
John Angus MacDonald (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine): 117-110 Kovalev
Alex Morris (Next Big Pod): 114-113 Kovalev
Queensberry Rules: 115-112 Kovalev
Danny Winterbottom (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Kovalev
Tom Gray (Ring Magazine): 116-115 Ward
Sam Sheppard (Next Big Pod): 115-112 Kovalev

see above who rooted for Ward and who for Kovalev.
Wanted to add the original like to this:
We go to the scorecards: Kovalev v Ward

They had 60 scorecards:
44 for Kovalev - 73%
15 for Ward - 15%
1 Draw - 2%

Most common scorecards were:
Kovalev 115-112
Ward 114-113
 
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