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[curz]

How is he the better fighter. Better striker sure, faster and more efficient when striking sure.

But they are 1 and 1. Diaz STOPPED conor on 10 days. Conor beat diaz to a decision that was unconvincing. I personally gave it to nate but have no issue with the decision.

When talkin better fighter we also take into account durability and endurance. Ground game is no question. We aredy forgetting what nate did in the first fight.

I didnt say better fighter, I said more talented fighter. And talent is jjudged when both fighters are fresh and when both fighters are fresh Connor outclasses the shyt out of Nate and his overrated boxing and inability to protect himself from basic leg kicks(imagine if Aldo came up and fought Nate) inability to grapple a smaller fighter to the ground. Nate should be embarrassed at that performance. I dont see him lasting 5 rounds with Connor or Aldo at 155 pounds

 

[123456789]

Rory might wanna fukk with middleweight first. ...

I think Koreshkov might beat him now...MVP beats him in 2-3 years and a game Lima could KO him.

 

[FrankyFourFingers]

I didnt say better fighter, I said more talented fighter. And talent is jjudged when both fighters are fresh and when both fighters are fresh Connor outclasses the shyt out of Nate and his overrated boxing and inability to protect himself from basic leg kicks(imagine if Aldo came up and fought Nate) inability to grapple a smaller fighter to the ground. Nate should be embarrassed at that performance. I dont see him lasting 5 rounds with Connor or Aldo at 155 pounds

Conor aint stop him when he has more power at 170. Hows he gonna stop him when hes only been stopped once by a perfectly placeleg kick by josh.

How about when conor was fresh with a full camp and nate came to fight on 10 days. What happened then.

 

[Roman Brady]

Why are people so obsessed about what casuals think? Are you a zuffa exec? I don't care. I'm interested in fights. And they have plenty of guys who I would like to see and who could compete in the UFC

Remember the premise of this exchange, dude was equating bellator to strikeforce which I called foul on. It's not about what you want or what I want it's about what's reality and bellator will never be strikeforce not only because spike just suck + the lacks of stars but the landscape has changed. Hell Coker marketed one of his first shows with Frank shamrock, everybody knew the name even if they didn't know him in particular. Local talent like Thompson, Gilbert and le to ratchet up the live gate, what has bellator got going that's comparable? You want to say this and that about casuals but what exactly do you think the freakshow fights are for?the problem is the geniuses don't use the rest of these cards to give guys like a Dundas or pitballs a rub.

P.s. If bellator don't catch on and just exists to exist what do you think will happen eventually?

 

[Roman Brady]

Rory might wanna fukk with middleweight first. ...

I think Koreshkov might beat him now...MVP beats him in 2-3 years and a game Lima could KO him.

if you think he needs that much prep time 4 years deep then that says it all. You know deep down dude is on borrowed time

 

[So UnThotful]

if cerrone goes to bellator that might make some more noise with the mac signing

 

[123456789]

I apparently think more of rory than you do.

And MVP is not in his prime yet...2 yrs. from now he should be. Not everyone can be Jones. And Jones' might be a doping fraud. Let's give Page a chance to develop.

 

[Statik]

One slap landed out of ten lmao.Then Nate try to do it again got knocked on his ass 3 times lol you picked one nate gif out of countlees Conor gifs lol

 

[Master Teacher]

if you think he needs that much prep time 4 years deep then that says it all. You know deep down dude is on borrowed time

If wonder boy can beat Rory

MVP will KO Him

Wonder is the less athletic, less dynamic, less skilled version of MVP

They have a common opponent in Nashon Burrell, MVP did a lot better against him, they both won a decision, and MVP had less experience in MMA.

So if Thompson can make it to top of UFC, MVP will have no problems.

You sound like those same idiots saying Conor was borrowed time and then called me WOAT when I said he would KO Aldo in the first round, don't make me dig up the threads.

 

[Lord Beasley]

if cerrone goes to bellator that might make some more noise with the mac signing

UFC would be foolish to let a guy that active walk away.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Remember the premise of this exchange, dude was equating bellator to strikeforce which I called foul on. It's not about what you want or what I want it's about what's reality and bellator will never be strikeforce not only because spike just suck + the lacks of stars but the landscape has changed. Hell Coker marketed one of his first shows with Frank shamrock, everybody knew the name even if they didn't know him in particular. Local talent like Thompson, Gilbert and le to ratchet up the live gate, what has bellator got going that's comparable? You want to say this and that about casuals but what exactly do you think the freakshow fights are for?the problem is the geniuses don't use the rest of these cards to give guys like a Dundas or pitballs a rub.

P.s. If bellator don't catch on and just exists to exist what do you think will happen eventually?

Bellator is in a better position then SF ever was. But that's not my point. You said no one cares about bellator fighters in the UFC outside MVP or Chandler. That's true for a casual but fight fans like my self who watch various orga outside UFC disagree

 

[The Infamous]

If wonder boy can beat Rory

MVP will KO Him

Wonder is the less athletic, less dynamic, less skilled version of MVP

They have a common opponent in Nashon Burrell, MVP did a lot better against him, they both won a decision, and MVP had less experience in MMA.

So if Thompson can make it to top of UFC, MVP will have no problems.

You sound like those same idiots saying Conor was borrowed time and then called me WOAT when I said he would KO Aldo in the first round, don't make me dig up the threads.

 

[Roman Brady]

If wonder boy can beat Rory

MVP will KO Him

Wonder is the less athletic, less dynamic, less skilled version of MVP

They have a common opponent in Nashon Burrell, MVP did a lot better against him, they both won a decision, and MVP had less experience in MMA.

So if Thompson can make it to top of UFC, MVP will have no problems.

You sound like those same idiots saying Conor was borrowed time and then called me WOAT when I said he would KO Aldo in the first round, don't make me dig up the threads.

never saw Burrell/wonderboy but I did see his fight with mvp where he pinned him against the cage regularly and when he had page on his back held him there with little resistance. Lol at your last paragraph, first rule of discourse is to eliminate any emotion that way you don't come across feminine

 

[So UnThotful]

UFC would be foolish to let a guy that active walk away.

UFC should have taken care of him a couple fo fights ago, i mean he might be the only fighter who can do a 8 fight contract within two years

 

[Roman Brady]

Bellator is in a better position then SF ever was.

wwf was in a better position than wcw didn't mean wcw's product wasn't better (for a stint) so I don't know where you are going there.

But that's not my point. You said no one cares about bellator fighters in the UFC outside MVP or Chandler. That's true for a casual but fight fans like my self who watch various orga outside UFC disagree

Like I said read the origins of the conversation to get the complete picture. That post you quoted of mine only anchored my overall point it wasn't the point. You keep internalizing this like your opinion is relevant, like I said trajectory speaking strikeforce was already making strides in the mma sphere and had struck enough of a cord to have us all talking, hardcores and casuals alike. Hardcores won't even consider bellator, got to start at grassroot level and they don't even have that...