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I Dunno How True It Is (Since It Hasnnt Even Been One Day) But ESPNNY Knicks Blog Was Talking About Brewer Working With Allan Houston On His Shot, Cant Be Mad At That.

Hopefully He's A Better Student Then Landry Was :ohlawd:
 

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I Dunno How True It Is (Since It Hasnnt Even Been One Day) But ESPNNY Knicks Blog Was Talking About Brewer Working With Allan Houston On His Shot, Cant Be Mad At That.

Hopefully He's A Better Student Then Landry Was :ohlawd:

Shump need that too when He's healthy .
 

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Shump need that too when He's healthy .

Definitely, Whats Weird Is I Think Both Shump And Landry Worked With Him LAST Season And Their Shots Were Looking Good For Like A Week Then They Wen Back To Their Old Selves, I Know Allan Got A Job But He Need To Stay On These Dudes lol
 

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Definitely, Whats Weird Is I Think Both Shump And Landry Worked With Him LAST Season And Their Shots Were Looking Good For Like A Week Then They Wen Back To Their Old Selves, I Know Allan Got A Job But He Need To Stay On These Dudes lol

Shump also need to settle down with his dunks and make sure he finish his Layups. The man gets too excited hope he gets back healthy :to: that's my defensive stopper sg
 

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NBA PM: Time to Credit Grunwald for Knicks’ Offseason
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Say what you want about the age (Jason Kidd, Pablo Prigioni) or conditioning (Raymond Felton) of the New York Knicks’ point guards, the chemistry of forwards Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire or even the way the team handled Jeremy Lin’s contract situation.

What you absolutely cannot criticize is the way general manager Glen Grunwald has filled out the team’s bench.

Like MacGyver building a hot air balloon out of stacks of newspapers, Grunwald has used a favorable labor ruling, the reduced mid-level exception and the expired contracts of bench players to conjure up an elite reserve unit.

In his latest stroke of sanity—a strange phenomenon for the Knicks’ front office—Grunwald declined to match Landry Fields’ three-year, $20 million offer from the Toronto Raptors, instead reportedly signing Ronnie Brewer for one year at the veteran’s minimum (Brewer confirmed the signing on Twitter and NBA.com’s David Aldridge is reporting that the deal is for one season).

Yes, Fields had fans at Madison Square Garden. He even played a pivotal role on two playoff teams. But in a side-by-side comparison with Brewer, Fields’ production fails to impress.

The 24-year-old Fields has a better career scoring average (9.3 points per game to 9.0) and he had a better rebounding rate last season than the former Chicago Bull (8.5 to 7.9); but the pair had the same assist rate (20.0) and Fields had a significantly higher turnover rate (12.1 to 8.6) in 2011-2012 than Brewer did.

The biggest difference may be on the defensive side where Fields’ mediocre athleticism undermined his intelligence. Brewer is generally considered a plus defender with solid athleticism, even if he is three years older than Fields.

Brewer’s immediate role is clear. He’ll be taking Iman Shumpert’s minutes while last year’s rookie sensation recovers from a torn ACL. When Shumpert does return, Brewer can fill a back-up role at shooting guard and small forward along with recently signed swingmen J.R. Smith and James White.

Brewer’s signing may put a fitting end to a surprisingly productive offseason in New York.

At first, the Knicks seemed poised for a brutal summer given their lack of a first-round draft pick and unfavorable cap situation. The team maintained its confidence in re-signing Lin, a restricted free agent, but players like Steve Novak and Smith seemed lost. Then an independent arbitrator ruled in favor of granting Bird rights and early-Bird rights to qualifying waived players in June, and suddenly the Knicks were able to exceed the salary cap to keep Novak while saving the mini mid-level exception for Kidd.

And while many Knicks fans are upset over the loss of Lin, Grunwald provided a remarkable silver lining by adding Felton in a sign-and-trade deal for spare assets like Jared Jeffries, Dan Gadzuric, the rights to two European players and a second-round pick. Yes, Lin is younger and more athletic than Felton, but the latter has experience playing with both Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler.

It’s worth noting that Lin’s best basketball came in February, while Anthony recovered from a groin injury; and Anthony won Eastern Conference Player of the Month in April without Lin, who was dealing with a knee injury. As good as Lin was, it’s hard to argue that he and Anthony fit together, and since Melo already had a max deal with the team, Grunwald opted for a less-expensive solution (exponentially less expensive considering the luxury tax situation).

Knicks fans also shuddered at the thought of trading three young players (Toney Douglas, Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan) to the Houston Rockets for Marcus Camby—a player old enough to share a teammate (John Long) with Bob Lanier—but that’s a bad way to look at the transaction.

It’s important to remember that Douglas was excluded from the rotation by both Mike D’Antoni and Mike Woodson while Jordan looked awkward in his brief appearances at the NBA level. Harrellson did fill a role for the Knicks, but it’s a role Camby has already mastered.

Even at 38, Camby still led the league in rebounding rate while playing 22.9 minutes per game last season (that means he rebounded a higher percentage of missed shots when he’s on the floor than any other player in the NBA). It may be too much to ask Camby to be a difference maker at 39, but he’s simply backing up the reigning Defensive Player of the Year in Chandler. That’s a very reasonable challenge for the veteran.

And for support in that area, Grunwald nabbed Kurt Thomas in the deal with Portland, and he added combo forward Chris Copeland for relatively nothing. Copeland is only 6’8, but his ability to play power forward will help keep Camby and Thomas at the five.

No, the Knicks didn’t re-sign Lin and they didn’t woo Steve Nash, but the pieces they’ve added complement the frontcourt, which is ultimately the team’s strength.

Perhaps the best way to evaluate the Knicks’ offseason is to ask if the team is better than it was at the start of last season. Grunwald can’t take credit for all of the progress, but the days of impetuous, irrational decisions from the Knicks’ front office might be over.
 

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I like the way the roster is turning out. It actually looks like a team built for Carmelo and Amar'e. Having atleast 3 defensive guys on the floor to cover for their inability to defend.

Felton/Brewer/Melo/Amar'e/Chandler is looking tough.

Even if Shumpert comes back it will be better. Woodson looks like he's will be playing 3 defensive guys with two offensive guys in his rotation.
 

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I Have Good Expectations For This Team

We're Coming In With A Coach Who's Shown He Can Win With Them, Defenders, Solid PGs, And A Bench

Everyone For The Most Part Is Healthy (Beside Shump) And Our Core Group Is Still Together

This Is The Year Of NO EXCUSES

No "But Woodson Is Still Adjusting", "But Shumpert Is Hurt", "But Melo And Chandler Are Tired From The Olympics"

No Excuses For This Team Fellas
 
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I Have Good Expectations For This Team

We're Coming In With A Coach Who's Shown He Can Win With Them, Defenders, Solid PGs, And A Bench

Everyone For The Most Part Is Healthy (Beside Shump) And Our Core Group Is Still Together

This Is The Year Of NO EXCUSES

No "But Woodson Is Still Adjusting", "But Shumpert Is Hurt", "But Melo And Chandler Are Tired From The Olympics"

No Excuses For This Team Fellas

We say this every year.

Getting rid of Jeremy Lin, and getting a washed up point guard with 2 years left in him. Doesn't look good.
 

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We say this every year.

Getting rid of Jeremy Lin, and getting a washed up point guard with 2 years left in him. Doesn't look good.

Last Year We Were Pretty Nervous About Toney Douglas Running Point Guard With Mike Bibby Backing Him Up

Anyway Every Position We Replaced Is An Upgrade, As Far As Lin We Dont Know If That Gamble Pays Off Till Some Actual Games Are Played
 

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I like the way the roster is turning out. It actually looks like a team built for Carmelo and Amar'e. Having atleast 3 defensive guys on the floor to cover for their inability to defend.

Felton/Brewer/Melo/Amar'e/Chandler is looking tough.

Even if Shumpert comes back it will be better. Woodson looks like he's will be playing 3 defensive guys with two offensive guys in his rotation.

with all these old cats i'm hoping the knicks could steal phoenix's training staff cuz these cats gonna be at high risk for injuries. Especially anthony who wont have much of a break between the olympics and the season. Plus they need to get felton in shape otherwise his knees gonna be done by christmas :upsetfavre:
 

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with all these old cats i'm hoping the knicks could steal phoenix's training staff cuz these cats gonna be at high risk for injuries. Especially anthony who wont have much of a break between the olympics and the season. Plus they need to get felton in shape otherwise his knees gonna be done by christmas :upsetfavre:

Felton Is In Shape, We Saw Him At Summer League
 
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Last Year We Were Pretty Nervous About Toney Douglas Running Point Guard With Mike Bibby Backing Him Up

Anyway Every Position We Replaced Is An Upgrade, As Far As Lin We Dont Know If That Gamble Pays Off Till Some Actual Games Are Played

It was a pretty bad gamble. The knicks with Lin minus Melo were on fire. Instead of sticking to what works, the Knicks management trade players when they need them the most.
 

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It was a pretty bad gamble. The knicks with Lin minus Melo were on fire. Instead of sticking to what works, the Knicks management trade players when they need them the most.

Yeah We Seen Alot Of Guys Get Money Here That We Thought Would "Work" But The Actual Product Wasnt Worth The Money

The Knicks Will Be Fine With Felton And Kidd
 
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