If he was that valuable, he’d have a home already
The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread
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I disagree. Simmons has a network of shows in diff genres (still adding to it), and has had a large audience since way before the Spotify exclusivity deal. I’m not a fan at all, but it’s just true.
Could be wrong, but I’d imagine Simmons calling Budden was just a favor for the Spotify bosses.
Ineedmoney504
SOHH ICEY...WE EATIN
He not out his contract fam. He’s still in til September 23 and like he said Spotify deal is still on the table.
Lil Bape the PostGod
Can’t talk to broke boys
he’s still under contract
said he didn’t agree to their RENEWAL offer and that other large companies with “hardware” have been hollering...pretty sure he’s talking about Apple even though he joked “fam you don’t even have alexa” when referring to Spotify not having any actual product or hardware
you can’t sign a deal while still signed
If they took a crazy 360 and gave up ownership y’all would be complaining saying joe don’t practice what he preach
They don’t take the deal and they stupid for not taking the deal and securing the long term bread right now y’all gonna complain regardless.
Everybody up here execs now. shyt the pod gonna be everywhere now . I’m good with that
They don’t take the deal and they stupid for not taking the deal and securing the long term bread right now y’all gonna complain regardless.
Everybody up here execs now. shyt the pod gonna be everywhere now . I’m good with that
He would have something lined up though. His tone doesn’t sound like someone in a bidding war, it sounds like someone searching for a lifeboat.
And I don’t think that deal is on the table now after this
I don’t think anyone advocates them taking a bad deal, but publicly bashing the biggest company because you didn’t like their initial offer is just bad businessIf they took a crazy 360 and gave up ownership y’all would be complaining saying joe don’t practice what he preach
They don’t take the deal and they stupid for not taking the deal and securing the long term bread right now y’all gonna complain regardless.
Everybody up here execs now. shyt the pod gonna be everywhere now . I’m good with that
the other shyt they wanted......stop being obtuse, its all IP at the end of the fukkin dayA podcast IP
How valuable is a podcast catalogue. Music is totally different
I don’t understand logic behind shytting on Simmons or Spotify.
Long as I can watch and listen to the pod, I don’t care breh. Seem like they still gotta offer on the table anyways.
hope they do whatever makes them happy
To double back on the Spotify talk....
The fact that Joe didn't seem to understand why Spotify was against them either having no episodes or half assed episodes over the holidays speaks volumes about his mindset, and why he isn't where he thinks he should be in success.
Failure to understand, or at least see the bigger picture from multiple angles will always kneecap your earning potential. Joe was thinking about taking time off. Spotify was looking at that week span traditionally being a higher volume consumption period for all forms of media, and especially streaming audio services. Them either taking that time off, or coming with a half assed episode (which, let's be honest, is exactly what would've happened if they tried to pound out their normal schedule of episodes along with pre recording a couple of extras) wouldn't have worked out in the way they thought it would.
Also, Joe effectively engineered them offering the equivalent of a 360 deal by running the video version on YouTube. I think when they got the first deal done, either both sides underestimated how many people were willing to wait for video (or, probably more accurately, are already conditioned to using YouTube with its methods of monetizing viewers, over starting to deal with Spotify), or the pod's side of the negotiations willingly misrepresented the video audience. Either way, they had to know that Spotify wasn't going to be cool with leaving money on the table that's going to another direct competitor (don't forget YouTube Music is a thing, and gives the bonus of eliminating ads on YouTube). It also doesn't help their argument that The Pull Up is run on the same channel as the pod. Makes it easy for Spotify to argue that a considerable portion of the views for that show come from people who were originally there for the podcast they're supposedly paying to make exclusive.
What's baffling is that from the outside looking in, it seems like the easy answer was to counter with offering to move the video version of the pod to Spotify exclusively, and then give The Pull Up its own channel to fully separate the two. Then, even if it's a bullshyt deal, have any future promos of Dussrpalooza, or other projects appear to be paid. Their whole argument for getting into their pockets for everything else was that all those Ms Joe was bragging about seeing were promoted or set up on what was effectively company time, since they were paying for those episodes.
For a guy that essentially brags about never having had a real job, Joe is out here showing that he hasn't learned one of the most important lessons of being an employee: don't develop shyt that can be proven was done on the company's time, or the company's dime.
The fact that Joe didn't seem to understand why Spotify was against them either having no episodes or half assed episodes over the holidays speaks volumes about his mindset, and why he isn't where he thinks he should be in success.
Failure to understand, or at least see the bigger picture from multiple angles will always kneecap your earning potential. Joe was thinking about taking time off. Spotify was looking at that week span traditionally being a higher volume consumption period for all forms of media, and especially streaming audio services. Them either taking that time off, or coming with a half assed episode (which, let's be honest, is exactly what would've happened if they tried to pound out their normal schedule of episodes along with pre recording a couple of extras) wouldn't have worked out in the way they thought it would.
Also, Joe effectively engineered them offering the equivalent of a 360 deal by running the video version on YouTube. I think when they got the first deal done, either both sides underestimated how many people were willing to wait for video (or, probably more accurately, are already conditioned to using YouTube with its methods of monetizing viewers, over starting to deal with Spotify), or the pod's side of the negotiations willingly misrepresented the video audience. Either way, they had to know that Spotify wasn't going to be cool with leaving money on the table that's going to another direct competitor (don't forget YouTube Music is a thing, and gives the bonus of eliminating ads on YouTube). It also doesn't help their argument that The Pull Up is run on the same channel as the pod. Makes it easy for Spotify to argue that a considerable portion of the views for that show come from people who were originally there for the podcast they're supposedly paying to make exclusive.
What's baffling is that from the outside looking in, it seems like the easy answer was to counter with offering to move the video version of the pod to Spotify exclusively, and then give The Pull Up its own channel to fully separate the two. Then, even if it's a bullshyt deal, have any future promos of Dussrpalooza, or other projects appear to be paid. Their whole argument for getting into their pockets for everything else was that all those Ms Joe was bragging about seeing were promoted or set up on what was effectively company time, since they were paying for those episodes.
For a guy that essentially brags about never having had a real job, Joe is out here showing that he hasn't learned one of the most important lessons of being an employee: don't develop shyt that can be proven was done on the company's time, or the company's dime.
ReggieFlare
Superstar
They clearly said when they asked for vacation they proposed pre recorded shows and Spotify told them nikkaz noget ya bum ass back to work fukk nikkaz
Who cares, do it anyway. How is Spotify going to actually enforce that?
Spotify offering them Rolex’s and trips only to double back and say nah is
I would be salty about that shyt too
no vacation time.
That fact that its not just joe saying all this speaks volumes too. I don’t always believe joe but I believe all four of them in unison
I would be salty about that shyt too
no vacation time.
That fact that its not just joe saying all this speaks volumes too. I don’t always believe joe but I believe all four of them in unison
I wonder if Joe went in screaming like he always does, these people looked at him like breh we can get Obama, Rogan or whoever tomorrow. This is not complex, we’re worth 60bn with or without you. This is not it doggy 
Charlemagne said that Joe would fukk up the Complex thing within 6 months a long time ago. Major label, indie label, rap group, tv, relationships, podcast deals and all that. Joe is just too passionate, which is great but you have to know how to move in a room full of vultures. And his guys probably advice him but his hot head gets into
-mode by default.
I mean there’s too much evidence of Joe fukking up things to still believe that it is always strictly the other sides fault
Charlemagne said that Joe would fukk up the Complex thing within 6 months a long time ago. Major label, indie label, rap group, tv, relationships, podcast deals and all that. Joe is just too passionate, which is great but you have to know how to move in a room full of vultures. And his guys probably advice him but his hot head gets into
-mode by default.I mean there’s too much evidence of Joe fukking up things to still believe that it is always strictly the other sides fault
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