The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

[CoolinInTheCut]

You are either misrepresenting those rants or you forgot what was actually said. Rory never asked for ownership after they drafted the original contracts, and he never asked for more money. The reason Rory tried audit joe was because Joe didn't want them to see the accounting when their contract gave them the right to see it so rory thought joe was hiding money. Mal wasn't just showing solidarity with Rory, he sided with rory because he felt disrespected by Joe.

You're wrong about this too, joe didn't want them doing their own shyt. Their contract stated that they couldn't do anything without Joe's input, what joe wanted was for them to do shyt under his network but they didn't want to because Joe would own it and make most of the money from it, that's why he threatened to sue them over a non compete clause until he realized that he broke the contract by firing them. And those sponsors can be worth 6 figures a month for a podcast the size of Joe's before the spotify deal. He was making millions a year off the cash app sponsor alone. Joe absolutely fukked up neglecting that shyt until it was too late.

I could be wrong. This shyt is super old news at this point.

But we're saying the same thing with a couple things here. When I said Mal wanted to show Rory solidarity, I meant exactly what you're saying, he wanted to hold Rory down cause he felt Joe was being disrespectful and overstepping by telling Rory to take time off. And with Joe wanting them to start their own shows, I meant starting separate shows under Joe's network, not separate shows entirely. Joe wanted that Royce and Lupe pod under his network too.

Either way, I dont really care to go back and forth on this stuff. Its irrelevant today. Appreciate the well thought out replies tho.

 

[5n0man]

I could be wrong. This shyt is super old news at this point.

But we're saying the same thing with a couple things here. When I said Mal wanted to show Rory solidarity, I meant exactly what you're saying, he wanted to hold Rory down cause he felt Joe was being disrespectful and overstepping by telling Rory to take time off. And with Joe wanting them to start their own shows, I meant starting separate shows under Joe's network, not separate shows entirely. Joe wanted that Royce and Lupe pod under his network too.

Either way, I dont really care to go back and forth on this stuff. Its irrelevant today. Appreciate the well thought out replies tho.

I'll just add this, considering the fact that Joe was trying to reneg on the original deal they had, do you really blame them for not wanting to start another podcast under Joe where they'd have no ownership and no creative control over that podcast?

Joe thinks he's some kind of business mogul but he sucks at doing business. If we're being honest, Rory was a much better business man than Joe, and probably would have made the podcast what joe wanted it to be if Joe just listened to him and allowed him to make business moves. Joe probably could have got that huge deal if they just followed the moves Rory was trying to make.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It’s funny how Joe keeps lowkey dissing Invest Fest

 

[Menna]

nikka that’s how all businesses work. If I work at target, I’m not getting paid if there is no money after the expenses


That don’t make me an owner. Y’all nikkas weird

Did you read what I said and or know how W2 paycheck business works....Paying your employees IS an expense. The guys in the back got paid before Rory and Mal and Joe did...W2 wages ARE considered an expense...You just want to be argumentative and use the word weird...

I was wrong they had a NET rev share agreement not ownership. But a NET rev share agreement comes AFTER paying employees/staff

 

[1thouwow]

You got to be a top 3 dumbest poster on this site.

At Target employee cost is part of their expenses. They don’t calculate the income at the end of the year and then decide how to divvy it up to the employees. They decide at the beginning of the year how much to allocate towards employee be and factor it in to the years expenses.

For Rory and Mal there pay is based on how much money is left over after the expenses are subtracted from the revenue. From there they were supposed to receive a certain amount based on the agreed upon percentage. Joe even agreed to that point. Joes whole thing was trying to transform them into employees by putting them on salary so they became a fixed cost.

Compare a podcast between 3 close friends to working for one of the biggest chains in the world

Go to bed Parks

Did you read what I said and or know how W2 paycheck business works....Paying your employees IS an expense. The guys in the back got paid before Rory and Mal and Joe did...W2 wages ARE considered an expense...You just want to be argumentative and use the word weird...

I was wrong they had a NET rev share agreement not ownership. But a NET rev share agreement comes AFTER paying employees/staff

I’m talking strictly ownership and @Menna already admitted he was wrong. I digress

 

[Menna]

I’m talking strictly ownership and @Menna already admitted he was wrong. I digress

Regardless of ownership or not Joe bytched Rory out the pod and I would of def put up more of a fight...

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

I'll just add this, considering the fact that Joe was trying to reneg on the original deal they had, do you really blame them for not wanting to start another podcast under Joe where they'd have no ownership and no creative control over that podcast?

Joe thinks he's some kind of business mogul but he sucks at doing business. If we're being honest, Rory was a much better business man than Joe, and probably would have made the podcast what joe wanted it to be if Joe just listened to him and allowed him to make business moves. Joe probably could have got that huge deal if they just followed the moves Rory was trying to make.

I really think they didnt start a show under Joe because they were too comfortable in their current situation with Joe, and they lacked the ambition and drive to make more money or add value to the team. They both seem like the type of dudes you gotta push to get things done, especially Mal. Joe was pushing them to start shows long before the Spotify deal died.

A big reason why I dont think Joe would give them ownership or creative control for their own shows or even the JBP is 1. hes self centered and narcissistic, 2. Joe thought these guys were completely useless. You would hear Joe complain about their lack of contribution almost every episode.

And literally any rational person would do better business than Joe. But Joe has a name that is a reasonably sized brand, and he's always one deal away from being a successful platform again. I dont watch the Rory and Mal show, but I haven't seen these guys do anything that Joe hasnt already done with his show, so I cant give these guys that much credit of doing great business. I heard their Patreon is wack too. But again, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who doesn't watch or follow them, I just go off what I read online or see in my Youtube feed from them.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

 

[1thouwow]

Regardless of ownership or not Joe bytched Rory out the pod and I would of def put up more of a fight...

You talking to the wrong one if u looking for sympathy. I like Ice and Ish

 

[tay1]

Nikkas still hurt about the pod breakup a year later. Let that **** go lol . Everybody’s moved on.

 

[5n0man]

I really think they didnt start a show under Joe because they were too comfortable in their current situation with Joe, and they lacked the ambition and drive to make more money or add value to the team. They both seem like the type of dudes you gotta push to get things done, especially Mal. Joe was pushing them to start shows long before the Spotify deal died.

Joe felt that way about Mal, Rory always had his own shyt going on besides the podcast.

A big reason why I dont think Joe would give them ownership or creative control for their own shows or even the JBP is 1. hes self centered and narcissistic, 2. Joe thought these guys were completely useless. You would hear Joe complain about their lack of contribution almost every episode.

On point 2.
You cannot say this while admitting that Rory brought deals and good business opportunities to Joe and got shytted on for it.

And literally any rational person would do better business than Joe. But Joe has a name that is a reasonably sized brand, and he's always one deal away from being a successful platform again. I dont watch the Rory and Mal show, but I haven't seen these guys do anything that Joe hasnt already done with his show, so I cant give these guys that much credit of doing great business. I heard their Patreon is wack too. But again, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who doesn't watch or follow them, I just go off what I read online or see in my Youtube feed from them.

Regardless of how you feel about the quality of their podcast, Rory has managed to get a half dozen sponsors to invest in their podcast.

 

[Sir Richard Spirit]

Let’s not re write history here



Before the blow up of the original pod, there was like a 6 month stretch of the pod being trash.


Ice & Ish are in the same exact position Rory & Mal was in before the blow up. Fake laughter, agreeing to whatever Joe says.

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

Joe felt that way about Mal, Rory always had his own shyt going on besides the podcast.

On point 2.
You cannot say this while admitting that Rory brought deals and good business opportunities to Joe and got shytted on for it.

Regardless of how you feel about the quality of their podcast, Rory has managed to get a half dozen sponsors to invest in their podcast.

And what are these half a dozen deals? Blue Chew? Manscaped? Cmon fam every podcast gets these deals.

I feel like you're trying too hard to give Rory props for doing something everyone else but Joe is doing. And Joe can very easily do these things too, he just chooses not to cause hes an idiot lol.

 

[gho3st]

Let’s not re write history here



Before the blow up of the original pod, there was like a 6 month stretch of the pod being trash.


Ice & Ish are in the same exact position Rory & Mal was in before the blow up. Fake laughter, agreeing to whatever Joe says.

Dont forget the small passive aggressive digs. Im sure its happening right now as well.

 

[gho3st]

I really think they didnt start a show under Joe because they were too comfortable in their current situation with Joe, and they lacked the ambition and drive to make more money or add value to the team. They both seem like the type of dudes you gotta push to get things done, especially Mal. Joe was pushing them to start shows long before the Spotify deal died.

A big reason why I dont think Joe would give them ownership or creative control for their own shows or even the JBP is 1. hes self centered and narcissistic, 2. Joe thought these guys were completely useless. You would hear Joe complain about their lack of contribution almost every episode.

And literally any rational person would do better business than Joe. But Joe has a name that is a reasonably sized brand, and he's always one deal away from being a successful platform again. I dont watch the Rory and Mal show, but I haven't seen these guys do anything that Joe hasnt already done with his show, so I cant give these guys that much credit of doing great business. I heard their Patreon is wack too. But again, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who doesn't watch or follow them, I just go off what I read online or see in my Youtube feed from them.

Thats bullshyt. I remember when they tried fo contribute or add content, Joe would randomly play a stupid song and change the conversation lmao