I feel like he should have played the game with the sponsors but he seems to only be interested in subscriber based income
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I feel like he should have played the game with the sponsors but he seems to only be interested in subscriber based income
threattonature
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He don’t seem to be able to see multiple steps ahead. By doing ads it shows what kind of additional income the pod can bring in. Same as him trying to do a network right as negotiations start rather than establishing it before going to the negotiating table.
There are many saying in business if you subcribe to why make the next man rich when I can do it myself then stick to it...
Ive made money with people and without so I get what you are saying but I get the other side too
THey said it themselves....They sit behind the expenses for the pod and split whatever is left...That was in THEIR contract that THEY all said was in the contract I guess no one person owned it but they were all splitting the income evenly ... I am just going based off what was said...Owners?? How they owners and they got fired? What percentage did they own?
Y’all nikkas still tight over them nikkas getting fired but check for every episode
I also need things to pass time at work or in the car and this is a top 10 pod out so I listen still.... But its not what is was is my take
He probably didn’t want to split revenue with Rory and Mal. In hindsight , it made absolutely no sense for him to agree to that type of deal. He should have been paying them a lump sum from jump
I think he only went the subscription route once cash app dropped him and nobody else were interested in signing a deal with him. There was a point right after they got dropped by cash app where joe was talking about needing another sponsor, but by that point it was too late.
EzekelRAGE
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I think you misread/misheard some things. There was never an even split. Yes one person did own the pod, Joe. At the end rory and mal had a 1% profit sharing deal with Joe in the contract. That 1% is what caused them to ask to see the books.
He probably couldn't afford to pay them a lump sum when they first started. That revenue split didn't seem like such a bad idea to Joe when the pod was barely profitable but when the money started coming in Joe started having doubts.
I did not hear that...I remember hearing they were sitting in a car discussing how to split up the income and they all agreed to split up income AFTER expenses....Meaning that they were not salary they were not part of the expenses...I guess I assumed they all owned it evenly but they did get paid in the same way and Joe wanted to Colonize them by saying their worth to the pod is Salary like and not Rev share like...
If they had profit sharing deal they had every right to see books they should of got sheets quarterly or at least annually since THEY WERE NOT SALARY.
Joe new Rory was a bytch and he could force them out...I would of shown up to Parks house regardless ROry bytched out...and Joe knew what he was working with
The Pod with ISh and ICe is better than Rory and Mals current pod but not better than the Pod in 2019-2020 and first part of 2021. I remember saying to myself this is too good to get for free and then a few months later it got blown up...
nikka that’s how all businesses work. If I work at target, I’m not getting paid if there is no money after the expenses
That don’t make me an owner. Y’all nikkas weird
Lol I totally forgot about that deal. Ofcourse. He fukked that situation up on his own. Figures.
Haven't posted in this thread since shortly after the breakup, but I listen to pod shorts every now and then, here are my takeaways.
Peak Rory & Mal >>>>> ice & ish. In fact, being there for the entirety of their golden years (started listening end of 2017) I couldn't even listen to the show in it's entirety after they left. I gave it a couple months before eventually checking out of the pod and this thread.With that being said,
it's only been a little over a year since the split. These dudes do have potential (mostly Ice. Ish is cool for balance I guess but he's just not interesting to me at all) so I can see Joe getting back to the top if those two continue to develop. I remember at the peak of r&m run they would have nothing in the news to talk about but the pod would still be fire, shyt sometimes better than when they actually did have headlines to discuss. If these guys can do that, Ill tune back in weekly. But the best case (and least likely by far) is
Ak and JB reunite. For literally anything. Pod, tv show, whatever. That fat ass hamster is entertaining and for completely different reasons than Joe. Can absolutely be the Kobe/Shaq of urban media on whatever outlet they decide. Everyday Struggle was a long ass time ago, get the numbers together and give the people what they want.
The JBP episode with Ak is the only one I've watched in it's entirety since shortly after r&m left. At this point in his career I think Ak is near equal to Joe in status so he wouldn't be getting lil bro'd on the regular like ES days. shyt would be crazy if they found a way to get it done.
Are people still hate watching or are the only people left in this thread genuine fans? I think it's corny to tune in every episode to shyt on something you don't like so i left the thread a while ago, but I'm back to check the climate on something I once loved dearly.
Peak Rory & Mal >>>>> ice & ish. In fact, being there for the entirety of their golden years (started listening end of 2017) I couldn't even listen to the show in it's entirety after they left. I gave it a couple months before eventually checking out of the pod and this thread.With that being said,
it's only been a little over a year since the split. These dudes do have potential (mostly Ice. Ish is cool for balance I guess but he's just not interesting to me at all) so I can see Joe getting back to the top if those two continue to develop. I remember at the peak of r&m run they would have nothing in the news to talk about but the pod would still be fire, shyt sometimes better than when they actually did have headlines to discuss. If these guys can do that, Ill tune back in weekly. But the best case (and least likely by far) is
Ak and JB reunite. For literally anything. Pod, tv show, whatever. That fat ass hamster is entertaining and for completely different reasons than Joe. Can absolutely be the Kobe/Shaq of urban media on whatever outlet they decide. Everyday Struggle was a long ass time ago, get the numbers together and give the people what they want.
The JBP episode with Ak is the only one I've watched in it's entirety since shortly after r&m left. At this point in his career I think Ak is near equal to Joe in status so he wouldn't be getting lil bro'd on the regular like ES days. shyt would be crazy if they found a way to get it done.
Are people still hate watching or are the only people left in this thread genuine fans? I think it's corny to tune in every episode to shyt on something you don't like so i left the thread a while ago, but I'm back to check the climate on something I once loved dearly.
threattonature
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You got to be a top 3 dumbest poster on this site.nikka that’s how all businesses work. If I work at target, I’m not getting paid if there is no money after the expenses
That don’t make me an owner. Y’all nikkas weird
At Target employee cost is part of their expenses. They don’t calculate the income at the end of the year and then decide how to divvy it up to the employees. They decide at the beginning of the year how much to allocate towards employee be and factor it in to the years expenses.
For Rory and Mal there pay is based on how much money is left over after the expenses are subtracted from the revenue. From there they were supposed to receive a certain amount based on the agreed upon percentage. Joe even agreed to that point. Joes whole thing was trying to transform them into employees by putting them on salary so they became a fixed cost.
You are either misrepresenting those rants or you forgot what was actually said. Rory never asked for ownership after they drafted the original contracts, and he never asked for more money. The reason Rory tried audit joe was because Joe didn't want them to see the accounting when their contract gave them the right to see it so rory thought joe was hiding money. Mal wasn't just showing solidarity with Rory, he sided with rory because he felt disrespected by Joe.
You're wrong about this too, joe didn't want them doing their own shyt. Their contract stated that they couldn't do anything without Joe's input, what joe wanted was for them to do shyt under his network but they didn't want to because Joe would own it and make most of the money from it, that's why he threatened to sue them over a non compete clause until he realized that he broke the contract by firing them. And those sponsors can be worth 6 figures a month for a podcast the size of Joe's before the spotify deal. He was making millions a year off the cash app sponsor alone. Joe absolutely fukked up neglecting that shyt until it was too late. He didn't get that cash app sponsor until the deal with spotify fell through, so he didn't realize how valuable sponsors were. He said he made more from cash app than he did from the spotify contract, now imagine how much he could have been making with multiple sponsors.
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Jim Cornette
The Cult of Meat with Extra Cheese...
Compare a podcast between 3 close friends to working for one of the biggest chains in the worldnikka that’s how all businesses work. If I work at target, I’m not getting paid if there is no money after the expenses
That don’t make me an owner. Y’all nikkas weird
Go to bed Parks
