Yep. This post being followed by two ridiculous flails is hilarious.
Also, in case anyone missed it, a few pages back in the thread I spoke about Avi Shlaim and his work as a historian on the creation of Israel and the effect that had on Jews in the ME and the pressure Jews felt in relocating to Israel.
Another Israeli historian, Ilan Pappe, had a great interview that just came out yesterday where this was also discussed.
There's a really interesting part at 30:20 where he talks about early anti-Zionists, who were predominately Jewish. Even if you don't have the time to watch the full interview, the 5-6 minutes for this section is worth watching. In discussion of Pappe's new book:
It sounds like even 100 years ago people were aware of the destabilization that would come from the creation of a Jewish ethnostate in the ME.
It's funny that when you listen to the historians and the history books, it just doesn't line up with the Zionist version of history.
Were the Assyrians, Armenians, Koin Greeks, Yazidis, Maronites, Druze, Chaldean Catholics, genocided and persecuted because of Israel as well?
It is estimated that Christians currently make up about 4% of the population of the region – 15 million believers. This is a drastic drop compared to the beginning of the 20th century, when there were slightly more than 20% Christians. If there had been no discrimination, violent persecutions and massacres by the states and Islamist groups there, there is no doubt that the number of Christians would not have remained at 20% but would have grown.
Although for different reasons (Islamic fundamentalism, economic difficulties, wars), the exodus of Christians is happening in most countries of the region, especially in Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon and the states of the Persian Gulf. In the last two years, more than 5,000 Christians have gone (including those from Jerusalem) mainly to Europe, the United States and Canada. In 2011, there were 1.7 million Christians in Syria (10% of the population). Today there are less than 450,000 of them (2% of the population). In Aleppo alone, the Christian population has shrunk from 360,000 in 2012 to 25,000 today. In 2003, there were 1.5 million Christians in Iraq. Today there are less than 120,000 of them. Syria and Iraq are home to numerous Christian communities. In Iraq, with the rise of ISIL, at least 50,000 Christians found refuge in Lebanon, but now there are only a few hundred, as most have left the region for good and gone to North America or Australia. And many leave from the relatively safe haven provided by Jordan. Coptic Orthodox Christians, an autochthonous community originating from the ancient Pharaonic civilization, were persecuted in Egypt.
The only country in the region with a growing Christian community is Israel, where the Christian population grew by 1.4% in 2020. Somewhat paradoxically, since Jews do not recognize Jesus, Christians in Israel benefit from the only functioning democracy in the Middle East because their religious freedom as much as guaranteed. According to the Israel Bureau of Statistics from December 2021, 84% of Christians surveyed said they were satisfied with life in Israel. This shows that when a democratic state is functioning then minority communities can profit despite the fact that they are minorities. However, one should be objective and recognize that in Israel, Christians suffer just as much as Muslims and other non-Judaists and are subjected to discrimination. Even the hometown of Jesus Christ, Bethlehem, is not immune to the exodus. In the past 100 years, the percentage of Christians in the population of Bethlehem has dropped from 84% to about 20% today. In addition to the Israeli government, the Palestinians also began to attack churches in Bethlehem. The first incident happened on October 28 last year when a group of Palestinians threw stones at a church. In the West Bank and Gaza, the percentage of Christians in the population fell from 11% in 1922 to 1.5% in 2017 and has fallen below 1% in recent years. During 2022, more than 5,000 Christians emigrated from the West Bank.
At the beginning of this year, the Christian international network Open Doors presented data on the oppression, discrimination and persecution of Christians around the world. It was announced that between the fall of 2021 and the fall of 2022, 5,621 Christians were killed, 4,542 were arrested...
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Funny how Jews aren’t treated like foreigners in non-Muslim countries.
"I assert that there is no Jewish Nation. The members of my family, for instance, who have been in this country for generations have no sort or kind of community, or view, or of desire with any Jewish Family in any other country beyond the fact that they profess to a greater or less degree the same religion. It is no more true to say that a Christian Englishman and a Christian Frenchman are of the same Nation."
This is so hilarious and over dramatic. Israeli citizenship laws are literally no different than America, Japan, China and most countries in the world. Russia, France, Austria, Finland, Hungary, Latvia, Germany, Ghana etc even have right of return laws just like Israel.
Countries like Ireland just extend to grand parents. India allows you automatic permanent residency.
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Also unlike countries like Japan, India and China, Jews are allowed to be dual citizens so it’s not like they are forcing you to be Israeli.
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