The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

[Outlaw]

I’m done letting the Trump boogeyman scare me into supporting the vile monster currently occupying The White House.

This is beyond outrageous.

So you’re no longer thinking with logic only emotion?

 

[Robbie3000]

So you’re no longer thinking with logic only emotion?

Watching Charred headless babies will make you emotional. My vote is not going to support that kind of evil. Consequences be damned.

 

[Outlaw]

Watching Charred headless babies will make you emotional. My vote is not going to support that kind of evil. Consequences be damned.

Well I hope you can hold your head high when Trump deports your ass to Gaza

 

[wire28]

Well I hope you can hold your head high when Trump deports your ass to Gaza

It may not seem like it now, but when your grandchildren are done reciting the MAGA oath before 2nd period like a good loyal citizen of Trumplandia, they will appreciate how we punished the dems and Biden.

 

[Outlaw]

It may not seem like it now, but when your grandchildren are done reciting the MAGA oath before 2nd period like a good loyal citizen of Trumplandia, they will appreciate how we punished the dems and Biden.

His grandkids might be subjected to institutional secondary class citizenry for being black but at least grandpa didn’t vote for Biden

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

The bot accounts you posted “hotspot media company” joined Dec 2023 and doesn’t exist outside of Twitter (posts anti-Ukraine, anti-Biden, anti-EU and pro-Trump propaganda) and the other one “ Leslie Kajomovitz” - actually one of the more sophisticated bot operations I’ve seen yet, it actually has a website that almost looks legit Leslie Kajomovitz - Vizrt Expert - is a actually pro-Israel who claims the “West” is training Hamas.

You weren’t directly quoting the pentagon press secretary, you posted sensationalism from bot accounts as people won’t take the time to click the video to watch what was actually being said.

I had already seen the clips earlier before I posted them, and so to find them again I searched "gaza pier" on Twitter and picked tweets that had the videos I watched. I don't know anything about the accounts. I didn't think the commentary in the tweet was as important as the video, but I am the kind of person who takes the time to click the videos, which you seem to think is rare.

But US Central Command (CENTCOM) said 1,005 metric tonnes of aid had been delivered to Gaza via the pier as of Friday, with 903 metric tonnes distributed from the transfer point to a UN warehouse.

More context

“THE PIER WAS ONLY OPEN FOR 5 DAYS ”


Yeah it’s pretty fukking amazing they were able to deliver 1000 metric fukking tons of aid through a pier that was constructed in 2 months on the fukking ocean. Now they are going to repair it and start again.

“Functionally useless”


Now is it an issue that all the aid may not reach the reach the Palestinians. Yep. But it’s been 5 fukking days. Let’s give them time to sort the logistics in a warzone before we start making shrill pronouncements.

To further contextualize here are the words directly from the Pentagon Press Secretary to explain how effective the pier has been.

Administration Officials Hold A News Briefing Via Teleconference On Humanitarian Assistanc

Administration officials held a news briefing via teleconference on humanitarian assistance to Gaza.

www.defense.gov

In terms of how that compares to what had been getting in prior to the recent military activities in Rafah governate, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me. But obviously — maybe it's not obvious. I think we've reported out before that the number — the amount of assistance that had been getting in was higher in April than it is now. Then the number — the amount of assistance that U.N. has been able to collect from border points was higher in April than it was now.


So at a time when needs have increased as a result of the displacement, the 900,000 people that I cited, that the amount of assistance and the access has gone down. In terms of other impacts of recent military activities, you know, it — as would be logical during military activities, access is a little harder. It's a little less safe in some areas. It's a lot less safe in some areas.

So yeah... No sensationalism. The pier just hasn't been that good at getting aid in, and less aid is entering now than even just a month ago. 1000 tons over the course of 5 days sounds like a lot, but to give even more context, that's less than 100 aid trucks can carry. 100 to 200 trucks per day have been entering Gaza lately, but the UN says 500-600 aid trucks are needed daily.

Aid trucks enter Gaza after weeks as Israeli attacks continue across strip

Estimated 200 aid trucks far short of a minimum of 500-600 trucks required daily to feed millions of Palestinians.

www.aljazeera.com

Israel is still blocking most aid, to the point where the food is sitting there rotting, and instead of using our leverage we defunded UNRWA and built a functionally useless pier.
Sounds like calling out Israel for blocking the aid and forcing the issue of allowing trucks in was the more functional option, and $300M cheaper too.

 

[wire28]

His grandkids might be subjected to institutional secondary class citizenry for being black but at least grandpa didn’t vote for Biden

His grand kids wont even know Israel committed war crimes (or that slavery happened) once Trumps department of education fixes our horrendous history curriculum

 

[wire28]

The bot accounts you posted “hotspot media company” joined Dec 2023 and doesn’t exist outside of Twitter (posts anti-Ukraine, anti-Biden, anti-EU and pro-Trump propaganda) and the other one “ Leslie Kajomovitz” - actually one of the more sophisticated bot operations I’ve seen yet, it actually has a website that almost looks legit Leslie Kajomovitz - Vizrt Expert - is a actually pro-Israel who claims the “West” is training Hamas.

You weren’t directly quoting the pentagon press secretary, you posted sensationalism from bot accounts as people won’t take the time to click the video to watch what was actually being said.


For example, sensationalizing the press secretary being unable to confirm if the aid has reached Gazans. Sounds bad without context, but luckily I’m here to provide the context


But US Central Command (CENTCOM) said 1,005 metric tonnes of aid had been delivered to Gaza via the pier as of Friday, with 903 metric tonnes distributed from the transfer point to a UN warehouse.

More context

“THE PIER WAS ONLY OPEN FOR 5 DAYS ”


Yeah it’s pretty fukking amazing they were able to deliver 1000 metric fukking tons of aid through a pier that was constructed in 2 months on the fukking ocean. Now they are going to repair it and start again.

“Functionally useless”


Now is it an issue that all the aid may not reach the reach the Palestinians. Yep. But it’s been 5 fukking days. Let’s give them time to sort the logistics in a warzone before we start making shrill pronouncements.

Well got damn @Toussaint had time today

 

[Outlaw]

His grand kids wont even know Israel committed war crimes (or that slavery happened) once Trumps department of education fixes our horrendous history curriculum

Good point. These vote abstainers won’t even get to be on the right side of history when the narrative is rewritten by MAGA

 

[88m3]

Well got damn @Toussaint had time today

Yup, and he's on the money about the twitter accounts that have been boosted in this thread as well. I meant to call that out over the weekend.

Gotta love when people continue to play dumb about foreign influence campaigns and what's happened with twitter since Musk took over.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Well got damn @Toussaint had time today

Glad I did. First time running into a bot account - a pro Israel one at that- which took the time to create a fake website and product. Almost had me until they said their qualifications was “bachelors” then proceeded not to list the school where they got their degree from.

 

[wire28]

Good point. These vote abstainers won’t even get to be on the right side of history when the narrative is rewritten by MAGA

“I’m glad grandfather didn’t resist like the others when the re education camp instructors came. The loyalty he showed to dear leader Trump once he came back home is the reason we have so many rations today”

 

[choc_cardigan]

This thread is full of misinformation and is one of the most lazy attempts to radicalize people I have ever seen. And this website jumped the shark years ago.

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

 

[Mister Terrific]

I didn't think the commentary in the tweet was as important as the video,

Yes you did because you are seeking create confusion about what was actually said and intentionally misconstrued what was said under your false claim that the pier was a failure. The pier is not “sunk” it is being repaired. Aid has been confirmed to have been to delivered to Palestinians

First aid from US pier in Gaza has reached starving Palestinians, the UN says​

First aid from US pier in Gaza has reached starving Palestinians, the UN says

The U.N. World Food Program says it's handed out in Gaza the first small amounts of aid that arrived from a U.S.-built pier in the territory.

apnews.com

Don’t worry you’ll do it again -

So yeah... No sensationalism. The pier just hasn't been that good at getting aid in,

So we’ve gone from functionally useless to “hasn’t been that good”

and less aid is entering now than even just a month ago. 1000 tons over the course of 5 days sounds like a lot, but to give even more context, that's less than 100 aid trucks can carry. 100 to 200 trucks per day have been entering Gaza lately, but the UN says 500-600 aid trucks are needed daily.

- and here we are


That’s for all of Gaza. The pier was for 500,000 people and as a supplemental - as quoted by the press secretary- to land delivery.

In fact the goal was 150 tons a day

Each boat can transfer between five and 15 trucks to shore. Once fully operational, the pier will be able to provide about 150 truckloads of aid to Gaza per day, according to U.S. officials.

Pier for Gaza aid in place, US military says

www.voanews.com

Aid trucks enter Gaza after weeks as Israeli attacks continue across strip

Estimated 200 aid trucks far short of a minimum of 500-600 trucks required daily to feed millions of Palestinians.

www.aljazeera.com

Israel is still blocking most aid, to the point where the food is sitting there rotting, and instead of using our leverage we defunded UNRWA and built a functionally useless pier.
Sounds like calling out Israel for blocking the aid and forcing the issue of allowing trucks in was the more functional option, and $300M cheaper too.

The Biden government just took the money and funneled it through other aid agencies

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/news-releases/unrwa-usa-resumes-funding-un-agency-palestine-refugees-providing-5-million

UNRWA USA also takes into consideration the fact that the Biden Administration has reportedly been actively urging other countries to resume funding and has continued to speak supportively of UNRWA in its public statements.


Also I’m assuming the pier was apart of the $1 billion in aid that was already earmarked for Gaza?

Supplemental Bill Becomes Law, Provides Billions in Aid for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan

President Joe Biden said that the security supplemental — worth about $95 billion — is not just an investment in the security of U.S. partners around the world, but also in U.S. security at home and

www.defense.gov

Yes, the U.S. ceasing to dump billions into Palestine would be more cost prohibitive than just letting Israel go Third Reich on them like they probably want to.