The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Maybe it's time to just pivot to Hamas is an Israeli PSYOP created to genocide the population of Gaza.

Either way the majority of posters here clearly believe Hamas is blameless or even justified in whatever they choose to do.

thats what they were trying to do earlier. You forgot?

They blamed Hamas’s elevation on a calculation by Netanyahu et al to undermine the existence of a Palestinian state…and frankly…it worked? … I mean

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

AGAIN for those in the back: Israel can’t make Super Bowl commercials about hostages…if there are no hostages

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Robert Kraft’s $7 Million Super Bowl Ad Fuels Controversy Over Israel’s Actions in Gaza

Stop Jewish Hate" ad will be televised to an expected 100 million viewers.

truthout.org

Super Bowl LVII in 2023 was the most-watched U.S. telecast in history, and with well over 100 million people expected to tune in on Feb. 11, Super Bowl Sunday will provide one of the biggest platforms on Earth for pro-Israel groups to attempt to justify Israel’s ongoing genocidal war on Gaza. The Foundation to Combat Anti-Semitism, which is owned by Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the NFL’s New England Patriots, has purchased a $7 million TV ad spot on Super Bowl Sunday to “Stop Jewish Hate.” Kraft’s ties to Israel run deep, from hefty donations to AIPAC to a long history of business deals in the country. Edge of Sports host Dave Zirin takes aim at the influence of Zionism in professional sports in this special edition of “Choice Words.”

Okay, look, New England Patriots’ 82-year-old owner, Robert Kraft, writes seven-digit checks to the right-wing Israeli lobbying machine AIPAC. But his ties to Israel run far deeper than the occasional donation. The multi-billionaire married his late wife, Myra, in Israel in 1963 when Kraft, then just 22, was older than the nation itself. Together, Myra and Robert set up numerous business, athletic, and charitable ties to Israel, a record of which is proudly proclaimed on the Kraft company website.

In particular, the Kraft Group boasts of its Touchdown in Israel program, where NFL players are given free, highly organized vacations to see the Holy Land and come back to spread the word about the only democracy in the Middle East. Kraft also attends fundraisers for the Israeli defense forces who currently, in an open view of the world, are committing war crimes in Gaza.

Now, as Israel wages war against the civilians of Gaza, Kraft is again flexing his financial and political muscles in order to defend the indefensible. His Foundation of Combat Antisemitism, or FCAS, will be spending an estimated $7 million to buy a Super Bowl ad titled “Stop Jewish Hate” that will be seen by well over 100 million people.

Under Kraft’s direction, the ad’s goal is to create a propaganda campaign to counter the reports and images from Gaza that young people are consuming on social media. Without a sense of irony or the horrors happening on the ground, Kraft says he is giving $100 million of his own money to the Foundation Against Antisemitism because hate leads to violence — Just not violence against Palestinians, apparently.

Let’s be clear. What Kraft is doing politically and what he’ll be using the Super Bowl as a platform to do is dangerous. He appears to think that any criticism of Israel is inherently antisemitic. For Kraft, it is Jews like myself, rabbis, and Holocaust survivors calling for a ceasefire and a free Palestine that are part of the problem. And Kraft seems to think that opposition to Israel, the IDF, and the AIPAC agenda is antisemitism.

There is a Red Sea of distance, as I’ve written, between antisemitism and anti-Zionism. Antisemitism is the pernicious hatred of a beautiful religion and culture that has been with us for over 5,000 years. Anti-Zionism means opposing a once negligible 125-year-old colonial project in the Middle East.

Zionism was a minor strain in Jewish life until the Holocaust, where, in a state of unspeakable trauma, Zionism rose triumphant after World War II with a new state built on the backs and land of the Palestinian people, a new outpost of what columnist Bari Weiss, with shameless racism, calls the West, albeit located in the Middle East. Now, for Kraft and Bari Weiss, building a highly militarized nuclear state built on stolen land is the only true hedge against another Holocaust.

Cementing this idea that to be anti-Zionist means that you are anti-Semitic has also been the lifelong project of Israel’s corrupt prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu attempts to shame anyone on the left who dares criticize Israel as crypto antisemites. Even the rabbis calling for a free Palestine are not free from this slander.

But right-wing Christian nationalists, with their belief in a Jewish state existing alongside their conviction that we’re all going to hell, are welcome in Netanyahu’s Israel and Kraft’s coalition.

And the greatest foghorn of this evangelical, right-wing, love Israel hate the Jews perspective is, of course, Donald Trump. And let’s talk about Robert Kraft and his relationship with Donald Trump.

Zionism is insidious.

 

[Pressure]

Zionism is the counter balance to radical Islamization.



They’re homies.

 

[GnauzBookOfRhymes]

You know what's crazy? In a few months the narrative is going to flip and Israel will be seen as somewhat of a pariah state

If you're legitimately emotionally invested in this issue it's probably best for you to avoid threads like this where you're arguing with strangers/bots etc.

Bibi sees this as his legacy, so if it bothers you to see image after image, video after video, of bombed out cities and people being forced to march from one leveled refugee camp to another, you should probably limit your intake of this story. He and Biden are lifelong friends, and doesn't not care what the US State Dept says. Public statements, even by Biden, don't really mean anything bc we're not going to cross any red lines (military aid etc) w/ Israel.

Look at Bibi signaling to Biden that they're still friends...

Netanyahu says Biden 'very clear and focused'

“I have had more than a dozen extended phone conversations with President Biden,” Netanyahu said, as he noted that Biden “also came on a visit to Israel during wartime, which is a historic first."

www.jpost.com

US President Joe Biden is “very clear and focused,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told ABC’s This Week on Sunday as he pushed back at allegations that the American leader suffered from cognitive decline.

Netanyahu has been in constant communication with Biden since the Hamas-led October 7 attack against Israel sparked a Gaza war.

The US president also visited Israel in the first two weeks of the war.


“I have had more than a dozen extended phone conversations with President Biden,” Netanyahu said, as he noted that Biden “also came on a visit to Israel during wartime, which is a historic first.

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“I found him very clear and very focused. We managed to agree on the war aims and many things. Sometimes we had disagreements, but they were not born of a lack of understanding on his part or my part,” Netanyahu said.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Zionism is insidious.

Why did Israel make a commercial about hostages?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If you're legitimately emotionally invested in this issue it's probably best for you to avoid threads like this where you're arguing with strangers/bots etc.

Bibi sees this as his legacy, so if it bothers you to see image after image, video after video, of bombed out cities and people being forced to march from one leveled refugee camp to another, you should probably limit your intake of this story. He and Biden are lifelong friends, and doesn't not care what the US State Dept says. Public statements, even by Biden, don't really mean anything bc we're not going to cross any red lines (military aid etc) w/ Israel.

Look at Bibi signaling to Biden that they're still friends...

Netanyahu says Biden 'very clear and focused'

“I have had more than a dozen extended phone conversations with President Biden,” Netanyahu said, as he noted that Biden “also came on a visit to Israel during wartime, which is a historic first."

www.jpost.com

What if I told you theres an Israeli intelligence angle to the Hillary email hacks, the Trump-Russia Affair, and Hunters laptop?

 

[88m3]

Israel Says It Will Protect Civilians in a Gazan City It Is Determined to Invade

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel would invade refugee-packed Rafah, but was drafting a plan to help people get out of harm’s way.

www.nytimes.com

 

[voiture]

Why haven't Hamas released all hostages to basically destroy this talking point?
They are the weaker party here...they don't get to dictate anything in the negotiations.
Release all hostages without any conditions and this war is over or at least destroy one of Israel's strongest reason for continuing the conflict.

 

[FAH1223]

Why haven't Hamas released all hostages to basically destroy this talking point?
They are the weaker party here...they don't get to dictate anything in the negotiations.
Release all hostages without any conditions and this war is over or at least destroy one of Israel's strongest reason for continuing the conflict.

Their proposal was releasing the hostages over three increments with civilians first, then military/police, and then the dead bodies

It seemed very reasonable.

If the goal is getting the hostages out, there’s ways to get to an agreement.

 

[Fillerguy]

What in the capitalism is this......We got commercials for military conflicts, in sporting events now?

American companies are being paid to advertise, at best foreign wars/at worst genocide, to Americans and our government is cool with it. The mask is completely the fukk off, everything's for sale. This bih may collapse before I retire.

Why couldn't Ukraine get ad space, Israel taking all the attention from daddy sam

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

How dare they politicize my adult wrestling err football!

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Israel Says It Rescued 2 Hostages From Rafah

Untimely news for Hamas

 

[Pressure]

Israel Says It Rescued 2 Hostages From Rafah

Untimely news for Hamas

Hopefully neighboring countries won't tread hamas like the Taliban

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Their proposal was releasing the hostages over three increments with civilians first, then military/police, and then the dead bodies

It seemed very reasonable.

If the goal is getting the hostages out, there’s ways to get to an agreement.

Hamas isn't in a place to negotiate thats why they’re getting everyone killed