The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

[Box Factory]

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Then don’t complain about casualties. Even if Israel is lying, give up the hostages to end the conflict unless you’re really not as desperate as you claim

They've tried to. Put that same pressure on Israel to accept the hostages like the hostages families are doing in the streets of Tel Aviv right now.

If Israel is lying about wanting the hostages, PROVE THEM WRONG

See, you can’t have it both ways.

They've already done that. Major Generals from the IDF have already blatant stated Israel is lying and won't accept the return of the hostages. The families of the hostages have proved it.



Take your fukking blinders off. Israel just admitted that they've killed hostages with their air strikes

 

[mastermind]

Its sick how our media don’t care to report stuff like this, particularly the TV media.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

just saying

It's amazingly convenient how Israel stumble across evidence on a topic exactly when everyone is arguing about it and then when they stop it stops showing up.

Argue about hospitals again for a bit and they'll stumble across tunnel overflowing with depleted uranium grenades underneath a maternity unit they just incinerated.

Yall keep falling for this logical fallacy.

If it was found last week or next month you’d say “hmmm curious ” ….

It doesn’t matter when these revelations are made because you all will always find temporal reasons for denying it.

Everything after October 7th keeps being validated more or less.

Why don’t yall go back to denying any UNRWA workers participated in the kidnappings…its better for you to just say you don’t care and/or that they we’re justified in taking hostages rather than denying it like you initially were

Then yall cried foul when THE WEST THAT FUNDS UNRWA IN EXCESS OF ANY ARAB/MUSLIM COUNTRY COMBINED ASKED FOR A TEMPORARY PAUSE IN AID only to find out…yeah…UNRWA HQ had Hamas tunnels under it

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Its sick how our media don’t care to report stuff like this, particularly the TV media.

what else are they gonna do? Protest to Hamas leadership?

 

[NZA]

looks like america is preparing to blame bibi for everything. all of a sudden they dont support the rafah assault?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They've already done that. Major Generals from the IDF have already blatant stated Israel is lying and won't accept the return of the hostages. The families of the hostages have proved it.



Take your fukking blinders off. Israel just admitted that they've killed hostages with their air strikes

Who gives a fukk.

You keep contradicting yourself. Israel can’t free hostages it can’t get to with their own military. Thats up to Hamas which itself is asking for shyt like “Israel ice cream Fridays in additions to ceasefires” like shyt is sweet out here. Its. over.

Egypt damn near is about to nuke Gaza themselves out of sheer frustration

Give the hostages up and take a bullet point off of Israel’s talking points. Hamas are not in a position to do anything else.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Box Factory This is how real strategy works when you’re running out of options. You have to triage emergency blows and stop future losses. You have to remove any justification for the enemy or opposition to engage in further aggression against you.

If you’re getting robbed, you’re supposed to give it up and fight back later or through other means. You can’t sit there and die over your wallet.

This is the situation Hamas is in right now…AND they took Israel’s wallet, so they’re EXTRA foul for keeping this going.

Now, if Israel decides to keep going after that…they have a whole other PR problem on their hands in the eyes of the international community which they DO care about, despite what critics say.

 

[88m3]

looks like america is preparing to blame bibi for everything. all of a sudden they dont support the rafah assault?

They could blame Hamas but you're not going to shame or create change in a group that makes children martyrs and builds bases under hospitals and UNRWA facilities....

 

[88m3]

Its sick how our media don’t care to report stuff like this, particularly the TV media.

it has been and is being covered thekingsmen2.0

 

[NZA]

They could blame Hamas but you're not going to shame or create change in a group that makes children martyrs and builds bases under hospitals and UNRWA facilities....

blinken and kirby have been blaming hamas for months. we see more progressives in congress willing to speak critically and now this change in tone from the administration - it seems calculated and political.

 

[88m3]

blinken and kirby have been blaming hamas for months. we see more progressives in congress willing to speak critically and now this change in tone from the administration - it seems calculated and political.

Rafah* is going to be a bloodbath and the outcome is an unknown so of course they're going to distance themselves(they have been for months anyways) unlike Israel the US has to actually engage with other regional allies and appear to be impartial

 

[Pressure]

So Biden is threatening to recognize palestine as a state without Israel's consent.

 

[NZA]

Rafah* is going to be a bloodbath and the outcome is an unknown so of course they're going to distance themselves(they have been for months anyways) unlike Israel the US has to actually engage with other regional allies and appear to be impartial

it's impossible to appear impartial; that's why 3rd parties are always involved in all negotiations. they all know who america sides with, the only thing america has to appear to be in favor of is a 2 state solution at some undefined point in the future

 

[88m3]

it's impossible to appear impartial; that's why 3rd parties are always involved in all negotiations. they all know who america sides with, the only thing america has to appear to be in favor of is a 2 state solution at some undefined point in the future

Sounds like the US is doing enough then

 

[88m3]

I keep reading that Israel is trying to move civilians out of Rafah to safety. Does anyone know what that means?