The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

[FAH1223]

That’s different, they’re Muslim

it's starting to look that way

the only problem is that the Palestinians don't have the capability of wiping the Jews out

I feel like we're making progress

The Palestinians have never had the power to 'wipe the Jews' out or whatever nonsense you are saying.

Israel is a nuclear power and backed by the USA. It is an occupying power over a stateless people.

It has carte blanche to do whatever it wants. It is never punished for its treatment of the Palestinians.

I'd wager to say they could kill 1 million Palestinians tomorrow and nothing will happen to the Israeli state. No sanctions, no resolutions at the UN Security Council, nothing.

After all, Palestinians are not even humans. They are animals. They are less than being.

Israeli ministers are telling Biden to fukk off as we speak. And there are no repercussions.

 

[Pressure]

The Palestinians have never had the power to 'wipe the Jews' out or whatever nonsense you are saying.

Israel is a nuclear power and backed by the USA.

It has carte blanche to do whatever it wants. It is never punished for its treatment of the Palestinians.

I'd wager to say they could kill 1 million Palestinians tomorrow and nothing will happen to the Israeli state. No sanctions, no resolutions at the UN Security Council, nothing.

I dont think that’s the threshold. They want to wipe them out and seemingly have settled on terrorism. I have no issue judging them from that aim.

We can chicken or egg it, I’m ultimately On the whole ordeal because you have extemist involved who want to the same things.

I see no moral nor ethical reason to give them more credit merely for being less capable.

Rhetoric matters and I’d have a much different view if they weren’t calling for their own counter genocide.

Oh well. Here we are.

 

[Liu Kang]

To be fair sounds like neither side really wants smoke...this provides cover for both of them

Biden doesn't want a proxy war with Iran pushing gas to $10/gallon during an election

I've read about it a couple months ago that those groups were not proxies per se but more groups that Iran supported because they aligned with their geopolitical goals.

Proxy implies that they have direct control on puppet groups but the reality is that they never had even though they welcomed the perception that they did.

It feels like they put batteries on their backs to push for more disruption in the region but didnt expect Houthis to go that far or Islamic Jihad/Hamas to go for that scale with the Oct 7th attacks

 

[Liu Kang]

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Israeli ministers are telling Biden to fukk off as we speak. And there are no repercussions.

Genuine question, what do you think Biden can do in the current situation ? Not what he should (we know what he should do) but what he can, realistically.

Because from my point of view, Israel is a sovereign and ally state of the US and also a nuclear one. The current Israeli government is also heavily favoring Repubs and Israel has an irrational support among american Evangelicals.

IMO, he's stuck because he is in an election year and it feels like he can't be too hard on Israel in order not to fuel the right but he can't be too lenient so progressives still go to vote.

I know it's a cynical question considering there are Palestinian lives at stake but realistically, how much room do you think he has right now ?

 

[jj23]

Genuine question, what do you think Biden can do in the current situation ? Not what he should (we know what he should do) but what he can, realistically.

Because from my point of view, Israel is a sovereign and ally state of the US and also a nuclear one. The current Israeli government is also heavily favoring Repubs and Israel has an irrational support among american Evangelicals.

IMO, he's stuck because he is in an election year and it feels like he can't be too hard on Israel in order not to fuel the right but he can't be too lenient so progressives still go to vote.

I know it's a cynical question considering there are Palestinian lives at stake but realistically, how much room do you think he has right now ?

Isn't this why leaders are elected? To make hard choices for the greater good when faced with the option?

Biden is doing what he is expected to do, as is sunak in the UK, and Macron in France. That doesn't make what they are doing right, and that needs to be criticised and exposed.

 

[Liu Kang]

Isn't this way leaders are elected? To make hard choices for the greater good when faced with the option?

Biden is doing what he is expected to do, as is sunak in the UK, and Macron in France. That doesn't make what they are doing right, and that needs to be criticised and exposed.

I'm probably too much of a realpolitik guy so I'd disagree with why leaders are elected

But I feel like if Biden was to dunk on Israel hard and losing the next election (hypothetically of course) in the process, people would call him an idiot or he would be remembered like Carter who paved the way to Reagan.

To me it looks like all the geopolitical fukkery of the past year is lining way too well with the 2024 US elections to my liking so the US president can't move too boldly.

 

[mastermind]

you're delusional


literally every article and statement says otherwise




it's time to release the hostages

And yet we are now bombing the Houthis, even tho Biden said it won’t work and now ready to bomb some Iran-related target and about to create more instability with this UNRWA farce.


And Israel government ain’t interested in the hostages, hence why their families in Israel are mad at them.

 

[mastermind]

The Palestinians have never had the power to 'wipe the Jews' out or whatever nonsense you are saying.

Israel is a nuclear power and backed by the USA. It is an occupying power over a stateless people.

It has carte blanche to do whatever it wants. It is never punished for its treatment of the Palestinians.

I'd wager to say they could kill 1 million Palestinians tomorrow and nothing will happen to the Israeli state. No sanctions, no resolutions at the UN Security Council, nothing.

After all, Palestinians are not even humans. They are animals. They are less than being.

Israeli ministers are telling Biden to fukk off as we speak. And there are no repercussions.

Also, and crucially, no one here supports Hamas. They live in bad-faith.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The Palestinians have never had the power to 'wipe the Jews' out or whatever nonsense you are saying.

Israel is a nuclear power and backed by the USA. It is an occupying power over a stateless people.

It has carte blanche to do whatever it wants. It is never punished for its treatment of the Palestinians.

I'd wager to say they could kill 1 million Palestinians tomorrow and nothing will happen to the Israeli state. No sanctions, no resolutions at the UN Security Council, nothing.

After all, Palestinians are not even humans. They are animals. They are less than being.

Israeli ministers are telling Biden to fukk off as we speak. And there are no repercussions.

Seems like Israel was right to fear Hamas, correct?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I've read about it a couple months ago that those groups were not proxies per se but more groups that Iran supported because they aligned with their geopolitical goals.

Proxy implies that they have direct control on puppet groups but the reality is that they never had even though they welcomed the perception that they did.

It feels like they put batteries on their backs to push for more disruption in the region but didnt expect Houthis to go that far or Islamic Jihad/Hamas to go for that scale with the Oct 7th attacks

IMO, they’re proxies because the other day Iran was crying about “field commanders” from IRGC being smoked in Syria then they act like they have nothing to do with it when American soldiers get killed.

Photos: Residential building destroyed in deadly strike on Damascus

An apparent Israeli air strike in the Syrian capital killed five of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard military advisers.

www.aljazeera.com

They have direct tasking.

The only problem is that the USA/West doesn’t wanna go on record with that because then…they have to do something about it.

Again, yall gotta read between the lines here.

@voiture @Creflo ½ Dollar @invalid @Pressure @wire28 @ADevilYouKhow @88m3 @MeachTheMonster @Wargames @Tair @Da_Eggman

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Those groups don’t have air power, U.S. weapons, thousands of bombs and can’t destroy an entire strip.

So?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Leave these people alone so they can convince themselves that genocide puts them on the side of justice.

Lotta twisted people in the world. Can't change mental illness.

in what world is a fair fight, admirable?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The dossier was examined by Channel 4.

Examined by Sky News

That is not a repudiation of the claims, as I outlined in detail.

“the USA hasn’t confirmed” is not “The USA denies whats in the report"

Stop being stupid.

“Even if it’s true, so?”


@voiture @Creflo ½ Dollar @invalid @Pressure @wire28 @ADevilYouKhow @88m3 @MeachTheMonster @Wargames @Tair @Da_Eggman

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The US government and the NatSec blob seem to want to be involved in another mideast war.

They dont actually. They wanted to focus on China. Blame your islamist buddies for distracting them.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

you're delusional


literally every article and statement says otherwise




it's time to release the hostages

More than a fifth of the remaining hostages are dead, according to an internal Israeli report.

www.nytimes.com

@voiture @Creflo ½ Dollar @invalid @Pressure @wire28 @ADevilYouKhow @88m3 @MeachTheMonster @Wargames @Tair @Da_Eggman