What a fukking clown show.oh yes the almighty army isreAl will displace them while shooting at doors and air
Yeah, no...... Their airforce does not want US smoke.
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Yeah, no...... Their airforce does not want US smoke.
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raptor pilots frothing at the mouth at the chance of shooting down something other than balloonsWhat a fukking clown show.
Yeah, no...... Their airforce does not want US smoke.
raptor pilots frothing at the mouth at the chance of shooting down something other than balloons
It wouldn't be fair. At all.
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the houthi forces are not 'helping' anyone by shooting rockets at civilian - non-israeli - ships and making promo videos of taking crews hostage
fukking up commerce past a certain scale in the red sea gets you clapped. historically.
and even though china and russia aren't a part of the us coalition, you can bet they're more than happy to lean in and fukk them up too.
fukking up commerce past a certain scale in the red sea gets you clapped. historically.
and even though china and russia aren't a part of the us coalition, you can bet they're more than happy to lean in and fukk them up too.
Man I got out too damn early lol.
That’s visually one of my favorite airframes so I respek the flex even though it’s
And somebody tell that pilot to save some p*ssy for the rest of us. He did all the rolls!
Biden just withdrew in embarrassing fashion from Afghanistan with the idea that he would end all the wars in the Middle East. Is another conflict good for him going into an election year?
The Houthis potentially dragging the US/West back into the region would not only be breaking a campaign promise but it wouldn’t exactly guarantee a swift change. I’m not sure if America wants to get into a regime change project in Yemen of all places.
This isn’t a Somali pirate situation where you’re focusing on a few provinces in a country plunged in anarchy, Yemen is a bit more organized. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the U.S. Navy attacked off the coast of Yemen years ago? I’m not saying that this coalition of genocide defenders aren’t capable of accomplishing their goals but what I am saying is let’s not make things seem all so simple. To take it back to my original comment, we spent 20 years in Afghanistan and the Taliban is running the country again.
The Houthis potentially dragging the US/West back into the region would not only be breaking a campaign promise but it wouldn’t exactly guarantee a swift change. I’m not sure if America wants to get into a regime change project in Yemen of all places.
This isn’t a Somali pirate situation where you’re focusing on a few provinces in a country plunged in anarchy, Yemen is a bit more organized. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the U.S. Navy attacked off the coast of Yemen years ago? I’m not saying that this coalition of genocide defenders aren’t capable of accomplishing their goals but what I am saying is let’s not make things seem all so simple. To take it back to my original comment, we spent 20 years in Afghanistan and the Taliban is running the country again.
it wouldn't be a regime change because the yemen conflict was basically nothing the US wanted real responsibility of going back to the obama admin.Biden just withdrew in embarrassing fashion from Afghanistan with the idea that he would end all the wars in the Middle East.
So the Houthis potentially dragging the US/West back into the region would not only be breaking a campaign promise but it wouldn’t exactly guarantee a swift change. I’m not sure if America wants to get into a regime change project in Yemen.
This isn’t a Somali pirate situation where you’re focusing on a few provinces in a country plunged in anarchy, Yemen is a bit more organized. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the U.S. Navy attacked off the coast of Yemen years ago? I’m not saying that this coalition of genocide defenders aren’t capable accomplishing their goals but what I am saying is let’s not make things seem all so simple. To take it back to my original comment, we spent 20 years in Afghanistan and the Taliban is running the country again.
this is straight up capability decapitation. people bring up 20 years in afganistan but don't even recall how libya got shredded and left to the wolves in less than 90 days. if the houthi forces lose their fighting ability, what's that do for them in yemen?
this isn't about genocide enabling either - its about money
never fukk with the money.
it wouldn't be a regime change because the yemen conflict was basically nothing the US wanted real responsibility of going back to the obama admin.
this is straight up capability decapitation. people bring up 20 years in afganistan but don't even recall how libya got shredded and left to the wolves in less than 90 days. if the houthi forces lose their fighting ability, what's that do for them in yemen?
this isn't about genocide enabling either - its about money
The Houthis aren’t going to stop so if it becomes a direct military engagement then I highly doubt our fearless coalition of blood capitalists will just allow them to keep their mandate. They’ve preferred the ousted govt for the longest especially since the Houthis are a client and proxy of Iran so this presents a golden opportunity. Perhaps there wasn’t the will to do to them what they’d done to Libya and Iraq because there’s no oil but doesn’t mean they wouldn’t take the chance of it came to them.
When it comes to things like what’s going on right now any and everything is on the table. Ask yourself why would someone want to play by some arbitrary rules knowing that the opposite party rarely, if ever, follows those same rules? So something like “don’t fukk with the money” doesn’t resonate here. Just like it didn’t when Somali fishermen decided to take up arms to defend their sovereign waters by means of piracy. If rules aren’t being followed then to hell with the rules.
Saudis used US weapons to decimate the Yemeni people and had them dealing with one of the worst humanitarian crises in the 21st century. The US has conducted drone strikes and assassinations there as well. There’s no love lost here. Also, Libya and Yemen are different in terms of physical terrain one is mostly desert and the other is littered with mountain ranges which provides defensive advantages in war.
you're speaking in right and wrong and im just sticking to what's about to happen - and what historically *always* happens when you fukk up trade in the red sea. it absolutely resonates because that's what got everyone on their ass.
and again, yemen isn't even helping
what does attacking civilian ships do for them? like for real explain that because i think some folks have lost that narrative there.im not even understanding the romanticism for piracy or acting like terrain will be a factor when the whole goal of this is to destroy any houthi strike capability that could continue harassing ships. this isn't an invasion order, its fukking up every platform that can project beyond a certain range.
you're speaking in right and wrong and im just sticking to what's about to happen - and what historically *always* happens when you fukk up trade in the red sea. it absolutely resonates because that's what got everyone on their ass.
and again, yemen isn't even helping
im not even understanding the romanticism for piracy or acting like terrain will be a factor when the whole goal of this is to destroy any houthi strike capability that could continue harassing ships. this isn't an invasion order, its fukking up every platform that can project beyond a certain range.
lol and I’m saying that they don’t care about what’s going to happen. Just like Hamas didn’t care because the situation became too intolerable for too long.
For better or worst you suddenly see real action in the UN to stop the genocide in Gaza. Perhaps there would’ve been different results had no one taken any serious measures. As for how this helps, why do people do economic boycotts? Because fukkin with the money typically brings results. This is a prime example of fukkin with the money.
What romanticism are you seeing here? I’m merely explaining simple cause and effect. When you fukk with people people gon fukk with you. That’s why those things happen. Not because it’s cool and makes for a nice Tom Hanks movie. So when the Houthis decide to directly engage in anyone fukkin with their plans to disrupt world commerce to force the hand of the West to end the atrocities in Palestine does that mean it’ll be limited to maritime action at that point? If you believe that then we can just agree to disagree because imo America would much sooner get rid of the Houthis altogether than they would leave them alone to plot more potential actions.
Get real breh, you think America and they dojas gonna just roll in and wag their fingers at the Houthis and they gon just hang their heads low and slink away?
The houthis have been through hell and back. There's a good reason the gulf arabs want no part of this coalition, they don't want their oil infrastructure obliterated (again) - that'll really fukk up their money. Saudi/UAE spent $250billion fighting Yemen and had to back out. Having said that, as much as they say it - I cant imagine the Houthis trying to capture vessels being escorted by coalition boats.
no, i don't think they're going to roll over. and they're definitely not getting a finger wag either. they literally don't even know what happened to the last ship stealing crew that met a response force.lol and I’m saying that they don’t care about what’s going to happen. Just like Hamas didn’t care because the situation became too intolerable for too long.
For better or worst you suddenly see real action in the UN to stop the genocide in Gaza. Perhaps there would’ve been different results had no one taken any serious measures. As for how this helps, why do people do economic boycotts? Because fukkin with the money typically brings results. This is a prime example of fukkin with the money.
What romanticism are you seeing here? I’m merely explaining simple cause and effect. When you fukk with people people gon fukk with you. That’s why those things happen. Not because it’s cool and makes for a nice Tom Hanks movie. So when the Houthis decide to directly engage in anyone fukkin with their plans to disrupt world commerce to force the hand of the West to end the atrocities in Palestine does that mean it’ll be limited to maritime action? If you believe that then we can just agree to disagree because imo America would much sooner get rid of the Houthis altogether than they would leave them alone to plot more potential actions.
Get real breh, you think America and they dojas gonna just roll in and wag their fingers at the Houthis and they gon just hang their heads low and slink away?
i think they're in over their heads while not actually making any impact of significance whatsoever and a LOT of young men are going to die over it.
so like... again, there's no 'win' in what you're describing. its literally "im pressed, so im going to be irrational" but the result is people that ain't even got shyt to do with you are about to get fukked up right alongside with you. its definitively shortsighted. if you're going to fight, you need to win. there is literally no win in sight.
and that's the thing, that saudi/uae coalition was basically a trial run. it wasn't some real dedicated force, it wasn't even french-tier if we're being real.
the houthis are clearly gassed over outlasting them, and why wouldn't they be - but instead of continuing to build their forces and solidify what they established, they do this dumb shyt.
Its not dumb shyt, they've actually caused a positive reaction - you've got the UK etc now calling for a ceasefire. Seeing a live genocide did nothing, this is the only real thing that has pushed the needle. have the Houthis actually harmed anyone on those ships? If not, I support it.
Ill call it dumb shyt if they start engaging this coalition
, and if they do, best believe Saudi will justifiably catch those strays with a few oil fields/oil infrastructures getting hit. The patriot defence systems couldn't save them last time