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US Senators and U.S. House members by and large have no idea what’s going on in Gaza, occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem

 

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So what's the end game for both sides here?

It's more complicated than just two sides. Netanyahu's own motives for extending/perpetuating this conflict also need to be considered separately from what might be the best outcome for Israel and Israelis. Bibi is a highly polarizing figure in Israel, too often people discussing these issues conflate the motivations of the man vs. those of the country.
 

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So what's the end game for both sides here?
looks like israel wants to fast track ethnic cleansing before american support dries up and hamas probably wants to force the international community to referee their situation until a two state solution happens with hamas as the official government
 

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"Palestinian children are brought up to hate Jews" they said.

Every Israeli accusation is a confession.

Sad that alot of them "israeli" have similar nature to nazi germans and the degenerate shyt they did to holocaust victims. ( not even sure its irony anymore)
how can your people go through hell just to become like the people that put you in it







watch those ultra religious Abrahamic (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) people all three they complain about degenerate stuff but do it in secret the whole time.

Just like the far right with culture war


This video shows the get down of the so called pure race of morality if the women was doing crazy shyt imagine what the men were doing minus the actual holocaust that's a given.



:mjpls:gotta watch cacs to, left and right leaning but that's already understood on the coli.
 
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So what's the end game for both sides here?
There's no way you're here in good faith, but for others who want to know.
Hamas wanted to secure hostages for a prisoner swap, and also wanted to interfere with relations between the Saudis and Israel. Seems like they also want to put pressure on other Arab nations to step in and help. They feel like their alliances are weakening and they wanted to disrupt Israel's influence on the rest of the ME. A two state solution is looked at as an impossibility at this point, so I'm pretty sure they just want to kill as many Israeli's as they can on their way out. Beyond resistance to the Israeli occupation their endgame is a bit unclear.

Israel wants to commit genocide on Palestinians or at least ethnically cleanse them from their land so they can continue to expand into their borders. Potentially also into Lebanon and other countries as well based on the "Greater Israel" concept being hinted at. This is being screamed by Israeli officials publicly, over and over again. They've worked for years to sabotage any chance at a two state solution. They are diving head first into a "final solution."

There's been previously unsubstantiated rumors for a while now about this, along with accusations that the IDF was firing tank shells into homes within Israel that contained Israeli hostages. I've seen people float the question "would the IDF be killing civilians indiscriminately if Hamas was hiding amongst Israelis?" and I think the answer just might be yes, they would.
 
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