The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

[2Quik4UHoes]

The fact that they use “antisemitism” in this case shows you how they use that label as a weapon.

The Palestinians are a semitic people. What’s more anti-Semitic than committing genocide on Semitic people?

That’s because they rely on the work of some 19th century German pseudoscientist that designated European Jews as the “Semitic” people. And from there you get this modern iteration of “Antisemitism” which doesn’t take into account other Semitic peoples.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Decline in ‘civil order’ in Gaza as thousands break into aid centers, taking supplies, UN warns — CNN

The main United Nations agency in Gaza warned Sunday there are signs “civil order is starting to break down” after “thousands” of people broke into its warehouses and distribution centers in central and southern parts of the enclave, “taking wheat, flour and other basic survival items.”

apple.news

34 Hours of Fear: The Blackout That Cut Gaza Off From the World

As Israeli forces entered Gaza on Friday to fight Hamas, phone and internet service was severed, sowing chaos for Palestinian civilians and leaving rescuers driving blindly toward explosions.

www.nytimes.com

 

[NZA]

They havent come up with any plan for what replaces Hamas.

if they need them, israel will make a new hamas when the time comes

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Aceofspades404]

I often wonder, when one acknowledges their ignorance on a subject, what makes them seek out propagandistic sources as opposed to truth. But if we look at the intent of propaganda, it is not to stimulate thought but to close it down. But of course, by acknowledging one’s ignorance, seeking out propaganda is well intended as it serves the individuals purpose in the first place. It’s not that the individual didn’t know, they just don’t care to know.

But atlas, some educational sources worth a read.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA156178.pdf

https://www.loc.gov/rr/amed/pdf/palestine4/Jewish-Atrocities-in-the-Holy-Land.pdf

https://archive.ph/ilV53

View of Jewish Terrorism and the Modern Middle East | Journal of Conflict Studies

journals.lib.unb.ca

The Evolution Of Islamic Terrorism - An Overview | Target America | FRONTLINE | PBS

 

[BK The Great]

 

[bnew]

https://archive.ph/GtSpe

had to look for confirmation..

Israeli MK: 'Gazan children brought it upon themselves'

The children in Gaza brought it upon themselves,' said Israeli Member of the Knesset Merav Ben-Ari during a debate about protecting civilians in the Gaza Strip, which has come under...

www.middleeastmonitor.com

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

if they need them, israel will make a new hamas when the time comes

People really need to stop giving Israel too much credit there. They also helped Fatah over the years. Oversimplifications like this aren’t helpful

 

[merklman]

This is completely false…these people are just homicidal suicidal religious zealots.

These the excuses they use to do terrorism. Show me the major terrorist groups from Japan and Germany. Everything is not about revenge some people just want to see the world burn. Of course a small amount may want revenge but religious propaganda is the only thing making new terrorists. Terrorists would find any reason to wage a war.

You are some sort of fukking clown right?

 

[NZA]

People really need to stop giving Israel too much credit there. They also helped Fatah over the years. Oversimplifications like this aren’t helpful

it's mask off now; you dont have to run interference anymore

 

[mastermind]

What's the problem? Almost everyone believes both sides aren't being completely honest about death tolls.

1) He said he doesn’t care the death tolls
of innocent Palestinians because “it’s war.”

2) why are you even debating death counts?

3) every news outlet, UN and even the US just this year uses the Gaza Health Ministry total

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/24/gaza-death-toll-palestinian-health-ministry/

The only ones debating it are Israel and their right wing, callous and indifferent allies who lead the UK and US.

Bringing this back, Omar Shakir, the Israel/Palestine director at Human Rights Watch, was on American Prestige podcast to talk about the death count debate and other happenings in Gaza.

Special - The 2023 Gaza War, Ep. 9 w/ Omar Shakir

Derek speaks with Omar Shakir, Israel and Palestine Director at Human Rights Watch (HRW), about the U.S.

www.americanprestigepod.com

 

[MAKAVELI25]

People really need to stop giving Israel too much credit there. They also helped Fatah over the years. Oversimplifications like this aren’t helpful

There does seem to be a conflation between Netanyahu and Israel as a whole which is not at all helpful. The counterargument to that would be that Israel as a whole is trending in a rightward direction and that, based on the number of times they have put the man in the power, at some point, one does have to put some level of blame on the electorate.

But yes, as part of his strategy, Netanyahu has at times disempowered Fatah and treated Hamas as a more legitimate counterpart to the Israeli government.

 

[Pressure]

 

[mastermind]

Also, The Intercept talked to Yousef Munayyer, a Palestinian Israeli citizen who lives in the US. He has family in Gaza and talks about what they are going through With lack of water, fuel, electricity and how it was growing up in that.

https://theintercept.com/2023/10/25/intercepted-israel-gaza-bombing-palestine/

 

[FAH1223]