The Official Debunking Hebrew Israelites Thread

[Czar]

How is the 'burden of proof' on me when this IS Your thread to 'debunk' the HI doctrine? And yeah, I put up with your bullshyt for four months which included you posting the SAME VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES AND QUOTING THE SAME VIDEOS MULTIPLE TIMES, so you can't say I can't post video here because they are very much ON TOPIC. Once you got banned for A DAY, you whined and complained and got my thread moved to the Race Track (much like this one should be). Not to mention if the mods look at your posyt history, they'll see that you've been following me and others around disrupting threads in other sections with your lies. So, if they ban me from this thread, this thread is going to get deleted PERIOD.

Yours was a Hebrew Israelite VIDEO thread. And unlike you, I ALWAYS answered your questions in there. In fact, I've answered them in here as well. You just can't accept any truth that conflicts with your false beliefs.

Whole reason I even tagged you in the OP was for you to contribute to the discussion by defending your view point. But you're not looking for a debate, you're simply tryna troll in here. Talkin about personal video rebuttals and all types of nonsense. Then when I say you can easily post your rebuttal through text, you get mad and start spamming in here.

And don't act holier than thou either, cause I can easily pull up posts where you've followed ME into thread and tried getting under my skin. Or tagged me to say something completely lame.

If you wanna stay in here, stop acting like a female and contribute the right way. If not

 

[Czar]

Not to mention, this is the 'Free Speech' area. I'm exercising my rights.

Learn how to exercise your rights the right way @LionofJudah cause this is MY thread.

Don't act like you didn't already have an agenda to derail it.

When I initially went into your HI thread I came with correction, truth and love to help take that veil off you eyes. You decided to act like a fake tough guy and start hurling insults. I'd have no problem being cordial with you in spite of our doctrinal disagreements if you weren't such a female whenever we disagree.

 

[thekingsmen]

What cult do I belong to? @thekingsmen

I don't do Cults, not my style but as far as history and scientific facts...shyt like stories, places, even names fit back to Africa. Sad thing I see is your acceptance of the facts being with the Power Rangers on the corners. I don't accept them as truth but I accept the facts. Allow the masters to sway your train of thought from your history, you fall right back into place.

No scientific proof or historical proof the first Jew( whatever that title is suppose to mean) was a man if the gene was spread by a woman. The term and title is a word made up in the 1800's. Once you realize Hebrew language was a connection between the ancient languages of Semitic( Afro-Asiatic), then you would know who the people were. shyt ain't rocket science...it's common sense.

 

[Czar]

I don't do Cults, not my style but as far as history and scientific facts...shyt like stories, places, even names fit back to Africa. Sad thing I see is your acceptance of the facts being with the Power Rangers on the corners. I don't accept them as truth but I accept the facts. Allow the masters to sway your train of thought from your history, you fall right back into place.

No scientific proof or historical proof the first Jew( whatever that title is suppose to mean) was a man if the gene was spread by a woman. The term and title is a word made up in the 1800's. Once you realize Hebrew language was a connection between the ancient languages of Semitic( Afro-Asiatic), then you would know who the people were. shyt ain't rocket science...it's common sense.

Breh, you said I left one cult (H.I) for another. That's why I posed the question to you.

And I don't see why you enjoy arguing the semantics of the word "Jew" so much. We're speaking modern English. Jew in our language is equivalent to Yehudi in Hebrew.

I just find it strange that you'd belittle the use of the English word Jew, yet have no problem calling the Shemitic language family (Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Amharic, Tigrinya, Ge'ez etc) Semitic.. Especially since that word derives from the Latin Semiticus.

Might as well toss the term 'Afro-Asiatic' under the bus too, since it wasn't even introduced until 1914. Prior to that it was known as Hamito-Semitic and that wasn't coined until the 1860's.

And the seed was spread by the women? Elaborate on that please...

All I know is that even in antiquity a foreigner could become a Yehudi(Jew) if they circumcised themselves in heart & flesh and kept the Mosaic law.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html

Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther 8:15-17

"And Mordecai went out from the presence of the king in royal apparel of blue and white, and with a great crown of gold, and with a garment of fine linen and purple: and the city of Shushan rejoiced and was glad."The Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honour.

And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.

 

[thekingsmen]

Breh, you said I left one cult (H.I) for another. That's why I posed the question to you.

And I don't see why you enjoy arguing the semantics of the word "Jew" so much. We're speaking modern English. Jew in our language is equivalent to Yehudi in Hebrew.

I just find it strange that you'd belittle the use of the English word Jew, yet have no problem calling the Shemitic language family (Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Amharic, Tigrinya, Ge'ez etc) Semitic.. Especially since that word derives from the Latin Semiticus.

Might as well toss the term 'Afro-Asiatic' under the bus too, since it wasn't even introduced until 1914. Prior to that it was known as Hamito-Semitic and that wasn't coined until the 1860's.

And the seed was spread by the women? Elaborate on that please...

All I know is that even in antiquity a foreigner could become a Yehudi(Jew) if they circumcised themselves in heart & flesh and kept the Mosaic law.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/josephus/complete.ii.xiv.ix.html


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Esther 8:15-17

Jew doesn't equate because those who claim it never do exactly as the Hebrews in the book do. Matter of fact many claim Jew as a separate race, some claim themselves Jew without actually doing any religious or practice. Hell even Atheists Jews still believe they are Jews.

We all know what the words mean...If I was speaking in Greek or Latin terms, it's the only way you would accept it. If I say a different Shemitic language, you wouldn't take it too kindly.

Jews( Europeans) claim the mother has to pass the gene on down to the son, in order for him to be a Jew.

Mosiac laws fall right into Kemeitic Ancient Laws...nothing new.

 

[Deaf2twothirds]

Look let me see one of yall go to a camp nearby u and debunk them

 

[LionofJudah]

Learn how to exercise your rights the right way @LionofJudah cause this is MY thread.

Don't act like you didn't already have an agenda to derail it.

When I initially went into your HI thread I came with correction, truth and love to help take that veil off you eyes. You decided to act like a fake tough guy and start hurling insults. I'd have no problem being cordial with you in spite of our doctrinal disagreements if you weren't such a female whenever we disagree.

You snitched like a bytch to the mods AFTER you spammed my thread. You've marked yourself.

 

[Czar]

Jews( Europeans) claim the mother has to pass the gene on down to the son, in order for him to be a Jew

Although the bible does have cases were the line was continued through the mother, anyone who claims it can ONLY be traced maternally is dead wrong. Especially when scripture clearly shows it running through the male the majority of the time. But it should be noted Jews who use the Talmud are following the doctrines of the Pharisees, who were dead wrong on alotta things. After all, Rabbinic Judaism=Pharisaic Judaism. Talmud=their teachings.

Mosiac laws fall right into Kemeitic Ancient Laws...nothing new.

(Now, back to the topic of this thread)

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Lashawan Qadash is NOT ancient Hebrew.

If you ever encounter a HI camp that parrots the og teachings of the Israeli School(Church) of UPK, they'll claim to speak ancient Hebrew... which in reality is a fake dialect created by "High Priest" Ahrayah.







In case anyone rejects that proof, here's more.

Lashawan Qadash Debunked

Examining Lashawan Qadash

 

[Czar]

Look let me see one of yall go to a camp nearby u and debunk them

Why would anyone debate a camp in the streets? When they:

1. Have control of the outcome from the jump. Especially if they have a stage and a mic.
2. Cut you off after 2 or 3 words to go into long, unrelated tangents.
3. Shout down/talk over any important points you manage to get in.
4. Attempt to erect straw man arguments at every turn.
5. Reject anything that remotely contradicts what they've been brainwashed to believe.

Coupled with multiple camp members & hanger-ons playing the role of yes men ("Daaas riiiiigh")

That's why the internet is the best tool/medium for debunking extreme HI teachings.

The level playing field places their false doctrines under a microscope, in a setting where they can't effectively use diversion tactics to deflect the truth.

This allows the readers to get a real solid look at how weak their arguments actually are.

But I don't expect a dude named Sambow to agree.

 

[Deaf2twothirds]

Why would anyone debate a camp in the streets? When they:

1. Have control of the outcome from the jump. Especially if they have a stage and a mic.
2. Cut you off after 2 or 3 words to go into long, unrelated tangents.
3. Shout down/talk over any important points you manage to get in.
4. Attempt to erect straw man arguments at every turn.
5. Reject anything that remotely contradicts what they've been brainwashed to believe.

Coupled with multiple camp members & hanger-ons playing the role of yes men ("Daaas riiiiigh")

That's why the internet is the best tool/medium for debunking extreme HI teachings.

The level playing field places their false doctrines under a microscope, in a setting where they can't effectively use diversion tactics to deflect the truth.

This allows the readers to get a real solid look at how weak their arguments actually are.

But I don't expect a dude named Sambow to agree.

Czar ur an amelekite fakkit that probably got his lil dikk sucked by a rabbi as a baby as apart of your custom. My name is Sambow cause my name sam and im the weapon that filled the bow. If your a tough guy like u are here go express your facts so that u can get cut like how @LionofJudah rag dolls ur ass on here.

 

[Deaf2twothirds]

What's the purpose of making videos? To confirm to one another that we're both black?
Nah breh, you can respond to me in here in text. My reading comprehension skills are quite good. I don't post pictures on message board, and I definitely don't make personal videos for other males.

@Czar Well, how about this? YOU make a video about whatever topic you want whether it's Esau being the white man, or the Israelites being Black, and i'll debate you on it. Here's the kicker, YOU have to expose your face on the video AND YOU have to reference The Coli and your screen name and I'll respond within 72 hours to what ever bullshyt you post and post MY FACE along with the video. And I don't want to hear that you can't do a video because you were trying to clown me for not using cellphones awhile back, so you should have a cell phone capable of video recording. If you choose not to do this, you're the white devil I've always called you out to be. Also, YOU get banned from the site, and if I don't respond with a video, I'll be banned.

@iLLaV3
@Disciple of the Projects
@Sambow

Hmm Judah u know agents never reveal their identity unless they are in court

 

[Czar]

Czar ur an amelekite fakkit that probably got his lil dikk sucked by a rabbi as a baby as apart of your custom. My name is Sambow cause my name sam and im the weapon that filled the bow. If your a tough guy like u are here go express your facts so that u can get cut like how @LionofJudah rag dolls ur ass on here.

Your name is Sambow cause you have no self respect.

Know what's funny? You and the 2 other online Israelites are so busy parroting the same ole street preachers, who coincidentally parrot the same ole 1 West teachings, that it hasn't dawned upon any of you that the Amalekites(Edomites) were actually people of color.

Speaking of Edomites.... Job was one himself.

But please feel free to quote me Genesis 46:13 so I can show you the true meaning of getting cut up. In fact, this is an open invitation to anyone who subscribes to the same false beliefs.

From reincarnation, to the misquoted precept upon precept of Isaiah 28, to the Gentiles supposedly being Jews in a GSOM, and anything in between.

Your man ran from his funeral, but you're more than welcome to take his place.

 

[Czar]

Hmm Judah u know agents never reveal their identity unless they are in court

Right "agent"

You could use an agent with all the pump fakin you do.

But lemme know if you wanna get ethered like the keebler elves in here breh.

 

[Demon]

so glad i found this thread again

@Disciple of the Projects is so short and frail nikka gotta go buy this:

to fit in with the jobless, dirty bums that stand outside bothering people looking like this:

@LionofJudah how do these nikkas split up they breaks to chip in and decide who gotta run to the chinese store to get these:

 

[LionofJudah]

Hmm Judah u know agents never reveal their identity unless they are in court

Let's look at another lie he's caught in.

Lol.
I'ma former member of the BHI bruh.

I was there back when they were collectively known as the ICUPK. Before Tahar left to form HOD and later GMS. Before Ahrayah falsely predicted Jesus was returning on Jan 1st 2000 to kill the white race. Before Tazadaqyah took over and changed it to the ICGJC. Before others left to form the "new" ISUPK. Before HOI, AOC, GOCC, UIC, IUIC, LOI and all the other off-shoot cults. I know every elder personally. I also know they're false teachers personally.

I know all the lies they kick. From the edomites supposedly being white people, to that fake language Ahrayah created (Lashawan Qadash) supposedly being real hebrew, to them using historically inaccurate books such as From Babylon to Timbuktu, to claiming the elders are reincarnated members of the bible. Along with distorting scripture itself.

The average BHI member rarely fact checks the stuff he's being taught. All the camps teach members to lie if they can't come up with something to refute a claim, because "The Most High will have mercy on us if it's for his cause". Lol.

It's the reason I left. I literally researched everything and found out it was either twisted out of context or a lie.

i also dedicated myself to studying history and the actual languages of the bible. So if you're thinking of debating me, you've got the wrong one. Cause you're not gonna fool me with the fake BHI talking points and half truths, when I have facts on my side.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/hebrew-israelite-videos.139449/page-5

Yet for some reason, he states this

Not sure if this falls under conspiracy theory or utter stupidity... But Hebrew Israelites in the 90's claimed Christ would return by the year 2000 to enslave everyone except them, and that America would be destroyed by thermonuclear war

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/what-were-some-of-the-conspiracy-theories-before-y2k.195824/

If he was in a camp in the 90's, he would have have been preaching the same 2000 year prophecy he's laughing at. That's how you know he's an agent and a complete liar.

Job 15:6
Thine own mouth condemneth thee, and not I: yea, thine own lips testify against thee.