The Official Debunking Hebrew Israelites Thread

[Marreese AKA " Big Reese"]

You mean except the cacs in Israel who say they descend from Israelites?





Ancient Egypt was black breh. Through and through. Yes, blacks come in different shades, but they're still black whether they're light skinned or dark. And if the Egyptians were black, then so were the ancient Israelites who often got mistaken for being Egyptians.

So if its all myth and fairytales,why are those in power lying about the identity of the Israelites and how the identity they give us doesnt match the same timeline they give us? No detractors can answer this..

Just because whites lie about the color doesn't mean the myths and fairytales are true lol, Egypt and sumer were ppl of color who both also had flood stories and had myths and fairytales, so because whites also lie about their color does it validate the myths??? come on brother. Their timeline doesn't have to match neither blacks or whites can give you an unbroken lineage back to the actual Israelites who disappeared after the 70-135 C.E siege on them by Rome. One can only show the practice of jewish customs which isn't direct and was picked up by many who converted or syncretized elements of it. WHITES KNOW THAT THE TORAH LED TO CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM, THEY DONT WANT TO GIVE THAT CREDIT TO BLACKS.

 

[Marreese AKA " Big Reese"]

who cant answer that??

 

[DoubleClutch]

I wonder if Kendrick Lamar has seen this thread

 

[Everythingg]

Way late on this:

Just because whites lie about the color doesn't mean the myths and fairytales are true lol,

I wasnt talking about your Billy Bob and Chandler cacs, but the jewish cacs. You know the Jewish cacs who got the world to support their building of the nation/state of Israel? Yea so they stole a book from black Israelites, and used to build their own nation of Israel for what reason? Its all myths, what the hell are they doing?

Their timeline doesn't have to match neither blacks or whites can give you an unbroken lineage back to the actual Israelites who disappeared after the 70-135 C.E siege on them by Rome. One can only show the practice of jewish customs which isn't direct and was picked up by many who converted or syncretized elements of it. WHITES KNOW THAT THE TORAH LED TO CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM, THEY DONT WANT TO GIVE THAT CREDIT TO BLACKS.

The bible itself says what will happen to the Israelites after the 70-135 siege, and what it says will happen, matches the experiences of blacks in the Americas. But even when this book of black Israelites says that certain things would happen to their black descendants which ended up happening to blacks in the American who have no remembrance of their heritage before slavery, combined with the fact that the gov't was looking to stop the rise of the messiah out of black people during the civil rights era, but it all means nothing because you dont want to believe in God?

 

[newworldafro]

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Rogue Money Report talks about economics, politics, stock trading, and cryptos. They have weekly guests that come on. One is this black guy, Dex the Algo Capitalist, from the DMV, that is a former stockbroker.

Anyway, he "goes in" all the time, but he is unapologetically black and has a lot of perspectives....but today on a libertarian radio show he started talking Black Israelite talk...very brief.....but check it

 

[Professor Emeritus]

How can you be so damn insecure with your own people and history that you have to claim to be JEWISH of all things to feel proud of yourself?



African-American pastors in the 1800s resonated with the story of the Exodus because their people were in slavery.

A couple rock-brains heard pastors saying that the Black community was "like" the Israelites and ran with it to start saying they "were" the Israelites.


And that's the whole story. All the others silly "proves" of Black Hebrew Israelites were made up after the fact from that original leap of logic. Whole history is known. Your entire crazy idea sprang up from a confusion in the 1800s, and we know ya'all weren't around before then. It's like the Mormons - how can you believe this stuff when everyone already knows exactly where the dumb idea came from?

 

[Everythingg]

How can you be so damn insecure with your own people and history that you have to claim to be JEWISH of all things to feel proud of yourself?



African-American pastors in the 1800s resonated with the story of the Exodus because their people were in slavery.

A couple rock-brains heard pastors saying that the Black community was "like" the Israelites and ran with it to start saying they "were" the Israelites.


And that's the whole story. All the others silly "proves" of Black Hebrew Israelites were made up after the fact from that original leap of logic. Whole history is known. Your entire crazy idea sprang up from a confusion in the 1800s, and we know ya'all weren't around before then. It's like the Mormons - how can you believe this stuff when everyone already knows exactly where the dumb idea came from?

Cac alert?

There's more than enough proof that blacks are the true Israelites...

You needs do research before talking about topics you aren't informed in

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Cac alert?

There's more than enough proof that blacks are the true Israelites...

You needs do research before talking about topics you aren't informed in

You just did EXACTLY what I said you did.


The freed Black pioneers of Israel Hill called themselves "Israelites" because they got their freedom from slavery and were now living on a new land (400 acres on a hill) that they had been given to them, just like the Israelites.

It was the NEW place they were living that was Israel to them, not the place they were from.


You can read all about them if you actually want to learn some history:



'Israel on the Appomattox'



You said, "There's more than enough proof" and then posted a misread road sign.

 

[Everythingg]

You just did EXACTLY what I said you did.


The freed Black pioneers of Israel Hill called themselves "Israelites" because they got their freedom from slavery and were now living on a new land (400 acres on a hill) that they had been given to them, just like the Israelites.

They didn't actually think they were from Israel.


You can read all about them if you actually want to learn some history:



'Israel on the Appomattox'



You said, "There's more than enough proof" and then posted a misread road sign.

Bruh just gonna delete the map that clearly says Judah and pretend as if you're making a point


How could Israel not be black if Egypt was?Why did they create a map and write Judah in the land of Africa? Why did Colombus bring a Hebrew translator with him when he was going to the indies? How about the names of the slaves on the voyage?

So in west Africa mapmakers place Judah and from there a bunch of negroes come with the name Yah being included in their names? As I said do your research (assuming you're not a cac) before speaking on subjects you're not informed on

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You needs do research before talking about topics you aren't informed in

That's the Kingdom of Xwéda. It is pronounced "o-wi-dah" in the Yoruba language.

Kingdom of Whydah - Wikipedia


It was mispronounced "Ajudá" by the Portuguese and then "Juida" by the French before being b*stardized into "Juda" by English speakers, because none of the Europeans could pronounce African names for crap. The town of Ouidah exists right there to this day in modern-day Benin, and in the Yoruba language it doesn't sound anything like "Judah", nor did the people ever traditionally claim to be from Israel.

Ouidah - Wikipedia


Your first "proof" was a misread road sign and now your second "proof" is White people horribly mispronouncing a Yoruba word.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

How could Israel not be black if Egypt was?

It's pretty easy for me to imagine brown Israelites. Some Egyptians can be dark (and beautiful) but you ain't never mistaking them for no West African. I'd bet the older Hebrews were darker too, just like a lot of the Middle Eastern Jews can be sometimes. The White European Jews are obviously mixed with white people over the years, so I bet anything the ones of 2000-3000 years ago were darker, but it's legit ridiculous to randomly make up a legend that they were true Africans.

All the DNA evidence out there that Egyptians are North Africans, not Sub-Saharan Africans.

DNA history of Egypt - Wikipedia

How about the names of the slaves on the voyage?

So in west Africa mapmakers place Judah and from there a bunch of negroes come with the name Yah being included in their names? As I said do your research (assuming you're not a cac) before speaking on subjects you're not informed on

Come ON man, "yah" is a freaking syllable in every damn language. This is seriously how far you have to fall for proof?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Why did Colombus bring a Hebrew translator with him when he was going to the indies?

Columbus thought he was going to INDIA, not Africa. Come on man, you gotta know that at least, right?

He brought an Arabic/Aramaic/Hebrew translator because he hoped to encounter Jewish and Arab traders in Asia - and hell, he might have even been looking for the lost tribes of Israel, but that has nothing to do with our topic. What the hell do you think Columbus looking for India has to do with Black people?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You keep talking about "doing your research", if you do your research it's easy as hell to figure out that your movement didn't exist before 1886 or so. Until then the Black Church was declaring that Black Christians are the SPIRITUAL descendants of Israel, because of the shared spiritual narrative of slavery followed by freedom and settlement in a new land.

Pretty funny coincidence, huh, that a lot of pastors were calling the church the spiritual Israelites...and then some random pastor come outta nowhere and start up his own church claiming he's the real physical descendant of the Jews?



You see that spiritual narrative for decades in history before you see anyone saying anything about no "Hebrew Israelites" who are actually the physical descendants of the Jews. It's obvious as hell that the "we're the real descendants" narrative was made up by a couple pastors after the spiritual narrative had already going around for decades. How you think Wentworth Matthew suddenly randomly figuring out he a Black Jew in the 1900s...and have it just so happen that the Black Church had already been calling itself the SPIRITUAL descendants of the Jews for decades before that?

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia



That's why your "proof" is limited to a misread road sign and an awful European misspelling on an English map. The people of the Kingdom of Xwéda didn't call themselves Hebrew Israelites. The people of Israel Hill didn't call themselves Hebrew Israelites. NO ONE was doing that until nearly the 20th century. You like the Mormons, trying to make up a whole fake history 2000 years after the fact without a single person in-between.

 

[Everythingg]

Seeing as I done wifed an Egyptian (Coptic never Muslim and her people trace themselves back to the earliest days of Christianity), it's pretty easy for me to imagine brown Israelites. Some Egyptians can be dark (and beautiful) but you ain't never mistaking them for no West African. I'd bet the older Hebrews were darker too, just like a lot of the Middle Eastern Jews can be sometimes. The White European Jews are obviously mixed with white people over the years, so I bet anything the ones of 2000-3000 years ago were darker, but it's legit ridiculous to randomly make up a legend that they were true Africans.

All the DNA evidence out there that Egyptians are North Africans, not Sub-Saharan Africans.

DNA history of Egypt - Wikipedia







Come ON man, "yah" is a freaking syllable in every damn language. This is seriously how far you have to fall for proof?

Bruh all of Africa was black by the modern sense of the word. Yet the so called "Jewish" man is not black or even brown. He's white. That's first off. Secondly, I never said Africans were Israelites. This statement would make no sense,. What I said was that the Israelites were (so called) black. When I say "black" I mean in appearance. And with the black (in appearance) Israelites, Egyptians and Ethiopians, you can also add Europeans, native Americans and Mexicans/Mayans/Aztecs/incas etc... also being black in appearance. Just because you want to hold the cac lies you were taught as truth doesn't mean the actual truth changes



Oh and "yah" being part of names is a Hebrew custom. Go look at the Hebrew names of the prophets. Most of them have "yah" in their name. What other culture does this but the Hebrews?

 

[Everythingg]

You keep talking about "doing your research", if you do your research it's easy as hell to figure out that your movement didn't exist before 1886 or so. Until then the Black Church was declaring that Black Christians are the SPIRITUAL descendants of Israel, because of the shared spiritual narrative of slavery followed by freedom and settlement in a new land.

Pretty funny coincidence, huh, that a lot of pastors were calling the church the spiritual Israelites...and then some random pastor come outta nowhere and start up his own church claiming he's the real physical descendant of the Jews?



You see that spiritual narrative for decades in history before you see anyone saying anything about no "Hebrew Israelites" who are actually the physical descendants of the Jews. It's obvious as hell that the "we're the real descendants" narrative was made up by a couple pastors after the spiritual narrative had already going around for decades. How you think Wentworth Matthew suddenly randomly figuring out he a Black Jew in the 1900s...and have it just so happen that the Black Church had already been calling itself the SPIRITUAL descendants of the Jews for decades before that?

Black Hebrew Israelites - Wikipedia

Ain't nothing made up about Deuteronomy 28 though lol. What other group has been taken from one place to another on ships to be enslaved for at least 300 years? Then once there put in yokes of iron? Hung from trees? These are things the Bible talks about. Can you connect them to another group of people? And those are just three tidbits. I got more in the chamber if you can connect these to a group of people (which you can't)

That's why your "proof" is limited

My proof is in the scriptures to which I assumed you didn't believe in. You say they changed ouidah/whydah to Judah based on mispronunciation which is funny to say the least.