The Official Debunking Hebrew Israelites Thread

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That these brothers are dead wrong in most of what they're teaching.

Did you even bother reading my OP?

I thought when you asked me to list the commndments that you were on your way to making a point concerning that. I misconstrued that thought.


For example...

Do you believe there is no such thing as a fallen angel named Satan? That any reference to Satan or the Devil is actually talking about the so called white man?

No I believe there is a being called Satan. Now has this being used white men throughout history to fulfill its purpose? Yes.

Do you subscribed to the belief that the so-called white man is Esau/Edomites?

Its possible.

Does God hate Africans?

Nope. But they are under curses...

Do you believe The Most High creates beings for the sole purpose of hating or destroying them? That they have no hope of receiving salvation through him?

Thats what proverbs 16:4 says

Is God's elect only comprised of natural born Israelites? Or can gentile strangers who seek him join his elect?

Yes Gentiles can seek God to join with the holy people

Do you believe rape is going to be permissible in the Most High's kingdom?

No.

Do you believe in reincarnation?

Anything's possible with God

Cause those are just some of the many false beliefs these different camps promote.

Not all of those beliefs were false. Nonetheless I didnt say they had it ALL right.

You do realize the brothers I'm addressing ALSO accept Paul's words as truth?

Sure. Now I was just wondering why you put so much energy to debunking the "Hebrew Israelites" but ignore the false beliefs of christians. Or catholics. Have you not gotten to debunking their beliefs yet? Because these 2 belief systems (as said before) are alot further from the truth than the Hebrew Israelites.
 

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....and you're completely overlooking ALL the other meanings to suit YOUR agenda.

Just like Paul.

Thanks for playing.

EXCEPT that all those "meanings" are included in "the 10 commandments and first 5 books of the bible". Please tell us, what is my agenda?
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Oh and you're welcome. Its always fun to play especially when one wins ;)
 

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King-Over-Kingz said:
EXCEPT that all those "meanings" are included in "the 10 commandments and first 5 books of the bible"

And only the moral/ethical laws were affirmed and expanded.

Technical observance was tossed in the bushes......just like you tossed the other meanings to suit your agenda.

The moral and ethical teachings of Jesus and the apostles (including Paul) call for even greater discipline than those of the entire Old Testament.

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You lose.
 
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No I believe there is a being called Satan. Now has this being used white men throughout history to fulfill its purpose? Yes.

We agree 100%. And those white men are in for a RUDE awaking when they stand before the Creator on that day, along with Satan.

Its possible.

Lemme show you how it's not.

Esau was Jacob's twin brother. Esau is the same color as Adam, David and Solomon.

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/132.htm
Strong's Concordance
admoni: red, ruddy
Original Word: אַדְמוֹנִי
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: admoni
Phonetic Spelling: (ad-mo-nee')
Short Definition: ruddy
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from the same as adom
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/122.htm
adom: red
Original Word: אָדֹם
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: adom
Phonetic Spelling: (aw-dome')
Short Definition: red
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from the same as adom

Esau only married Hamite and Ishmaelite women (Genesis 26:34, 28:9, 36:2-3(

Which means his descendants were people of color, just like the Hebrews.

Even Job was an Edomite. One of the few righteous ones listed in scripture.

Edom brought God's wrath and judgement upon themselves due to their wickedness against Israel, not their skin color.

Read this...

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-...israelites-thread.197545/page-10#post-7922760

For what it's worth, the white man descends from Japheth. Greeks (Javan) Romans (Kittim) Germans (Ashkenaz) etc.

Japheth's wickedness against Israel goes without saying.

Nope. But they are under curses...

Curses? Explain.

Thats what proverbs 16:4 says

Proverbs 16:4 doesn't say he made them to be destroyed. It simply says he created all things, even those who eventually do evil (such as Satan).

Furthermore...

Isaiah 55:6-7
Let the wicked forsake his way,
And the unrighteous man his thoughts;
Let him return to the Lord,
And He will have mercy on him;
And to our God,
For He will abundantly pardon.

Wisdom 11:23-24
But thou hast mercy upon all; for thou canst do all things, and winkest at the sins of men, because they should amend.
For thou lovest all the things that are, and abhorrest nothing which thou hast made: for never wouldest thou have made any thing, if thou hadst hated it.


Yes Gentiles can seek God to join with the holy people

Amen.


Amen again.


Anything's possible with God

Anything's possible with him. But If a doctrine isn't directly stated in scripture, it's not from him.

Genesis 3:19
In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return.”

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it

Job 21:13
They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave.

Job 14:10-12
But a man dies and is laid low; man breathes his last, and where is he? As waters fail from a lake and a river wastes away and dries up, so a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep

Psalm 78:39
For He remembered that they were but flesh,
A breath that passes away and does not come again
.

Daniel 12:1-2
At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.
And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
Some to everlasting life,
Some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Isaiah 26:19
Your dead shall live;
Together with my dead body they shall arise.
Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust;
For your dew is like the dew of herbs,
And the earth shall cast out the dead
.


And even though you don't adhere to the New Testament...

Hebrews 9:27
And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment


Not all of those beliefs were false. Nonetheless I didnt say they had it ALL right.

I already proved they're false through scripture. God's word doesn't lie breh.


Sure. Now I was just wondering why you put so much energy to debunking the "Hebrew Israelites" but ignore the false beliefs of christians. Or catholics. Have you not gotten to debunking their beliefs yet? Because these 2 belief systems (as said before) are alot further from the truth than the Hebrew Israelites.

Did you ever post on SOHH? I used to stay making threads against Catholicism in the KTL forum. I'll be dealing with that very soon, trust me.

But for now, my focus is on this. We have 3 users on here who promote these false teachings hardbody and an abundance of ignorant brothers who are dumb enough to believe them.
 
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And only the moral/ethical laws were affirmed and expanded.

Technical observance was tossed in the bushes......​

I dont even think you know what you're arguing anymore. What was tossed into the bushes and by who? Hopefully this being that did this was an authority...

just like you tossed the other meanings to suit your agenda.

This will be the second time of me asking. WHAT AGENDA?

The moral and ethical teachings of Jesus and the apostles (including Paul) call for even greater discipline than those of the entire Old Testament.

Sure....
 

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Lemme show you how it's not.

Esau was Jacob's twin brother. Esau is the same color as Adam, David and Solomon.

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/132.htm

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/122.htm


Esau only married Hamite and Ishmaelite women (Genesis 26:34, 28:9, 36:2-3(

Which means his descendants were people of color, just like the Hebrews.

Even Job was an Edomite. One of the few righteous ones listed in scripture.

Edom brought God's wrath and judgement upon themselves due to their wickedness against Israel, not their skin color.

Read this...

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-...israelites-thread.197545/page-10#post-7922760

For what it's worth, the white man descends from Japheth. Greeks (Javan) Romans (Kittim) Germans (Ashkenaz) etc.

Japheth's wickedness against Israel goes without saying.

What about Rebekkah? What was she?

Curses? Explain.

You've read Deuteronomy 28 right? You see how many curses apply to Africa? Not to mention the idolatry that goes on there.

Proverbs 16:4 doesn't say he made them to be destroyed. It simply says he created all things, even those who eventually do evil (such as Satan).

No. Its says that God made everything for its own purpose. Even the wicked for a day of disaster.

Furthermore...

Isaiah 55:6-7


Wisdom 11:23-24

Isaiah 55 doesnt change the fact that the wicked was made for disaster. Otherwise why does Satan exist? Why was he created when God knew what would happen ahead of time if we believe the prophet Jeremiah?

Wisdom 11 is the word of man just as Songs of Solomon or Proverbs. That doesnt mean that there arent things we can take away from it, but it is not authoritative. For instance it says that God doesnt despise anything because if it was so, God would not have made it. Well what about Genesis 6:6 where God regretted man? Or Proverbs 12 saying God hates liars?


Anything's possible with him. But If a doctrine isn't directly stated in scripture, it's not from him.

Genesis 3:19


Ecclesiastes 12:7


Job 21:13


Job 14:10-12


Psalm 78:39


Daniel 12:1-2


Isaiah 26:19



And even though you don't adhere to the New Testament...

Hebrews 9:27

Well theres this in Malachi

Malachi 4:5
5 “See, I will send the prophet Elijah to you before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes

And Jesus obviously thought this to be John the Baptist.

Matthew 11:14
"And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come.

Then there is the disciples asking Jesus a dumb question if reincarnation isnt real...

John 9
As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”

So how could a man born blind, have sinned if reincarnation is not real? Wouldn't this be a dumb question?

I already proved they're false through scripture. God's word doesn't lie breh.

Not necessarily my friend. But you're correct. God's word does not lie. Now how men INTERPRET God's word, that can be filled with lies and/or misinterpretations.


Did you ever post on SOHH? I used to stay making threads against Catholicism in the KTL forum. I'll be dealing with that very soon, trust me.

But for now, my focus is on this. We have 3 users on here who promote these false teachings hardbody and an abundance of ignorant brothers who are dumb enough to believe them.

Nah I didnt. I only said that because thats what I've seen since I've been here. Heck, in one instance, you brought it up when I said some hypothesize that those in Israel are not descendants of Jacob. No harm no foul though. With billions of christians following incorrect doctrines, I would have thought that would be of greater importance than the Hebrew Israelites which is why I originally asked
 
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You sure are.

Keep digging the hole deeper.

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I aint even trippin cuh :manny:


You responded to me first, and when you got shut down you start cutting up my posts for jokes. Thats fine. My original point still stands. Go ahead and cut up this post as well, I'll just shoot you a salute and discuss with someone else :ehh:
 

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Well lets go back then my friend. Which one of these are not included in the 10 commandments and the first 5 books?
  • The ceremonial laws including "clean" and "unclean" lists, sacrifices, dietary restrictions, ritual washings, etc.
  • The civil law regulating social behavior and specifying crimes, punishments and other rules
  • The moral and ethical laws, such as the Ten Commandments
  • The Pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible)
  • The scribal law - the 600+ rules formulated by the scribes that everyone was expected to obey
  • The Scripture as a whole
I guess scripture wouldnt be. But where was scripture called "the law"? Lets see if you answer or if you just cut up posts and ignore lol. You also forgot to tell us what my "agenda" was but we'll let that slide
 
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