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As far as the first 2 arcs, that's mark millar in general thoughEvery incarnation of The Ultimates was bullshyt. Every writer who got involved with the book seemed hellbent on nothing but shock value and showing how "nerd edgy" they could be.
Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Fantastic Four were just boring.
The only Ultimate book to not suck was Spider-Man.