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Have her kids be Master Pandemonium's arms?
I loved that shyt...it was so ridiculous and over the top.
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Terrence Howard Says IRON MAN Star 'Pushed' Him Out of Franchise

People were a bit taken aback in 2008 when Terrence Howard, who played James “Rhodey” Rhodes in Iron Man, was replaced in favor of Don Cheadle in Iron Man 2 and further films. At the time there was some unconfirmed reports it was a money issue, but this week Howard himself spoke out about the issue and pointed the finger at Iron Man himself, Robert Downey Jr., for being a key part of his exit.

“This is going to get me in a lot of trouble. “It turns out that the person that I helped become Iron Man, when it was time to re-up for the second one took the money that was supposed to go to me and pushed me out,” Howard said in an interview with Bravo’s Watch What Happens Live.

According to Howard, he signed a three-picture deal with Marvel that started with Iron Man and was planned to continue through the then-potential sequels. The original contract, again according to Howard, had escalating pay rates for each ensuring film. But as development of Iron Man 2 began, Marvel used a clause in the contract to re-negotiate the actor’s payment for “one-eighth” of the original contract. Howard says the unnamed Marvel representative said “we think [Iron Man 2] will be successful with or without” Howard.

“And I called my friend that I helped get the first job,” Howard said, referring to Downey,” and he didn’t call me back for three months.”

At the time, Entertainment Weekly ran a story that cited unnamed “Hollywood insiders” who stated Howard had shown “difficult behavior” during the filming of the original Iron Man movie, as well as stating Howard – who was the first actor hired for the Iron Man film – was paid at a salary inordinately higher than the rest of the cast, including Downey Jr. Earlier this year, Howard claimed that being recast in the Iron Man franchise was responsible for “killing my career.”

Until earlier this year, it seemed like Marvel Studios and Twentieth Century Fox's superhero franchises would continue on with no overlap despite both of them drawing from the same universe of costumed crusaders. Then -- Quicksilver happened.

Following Joss Whedon's revelation that the silver-haired speedster would assemble alongside the Avengers in the team's 2015 "Age of Ultron" sequel, "Days of Future Past" director Bryan Singer unveiled his plan to include the mutant hero/villain in Fox's 2014 X-Men film. Confusing at first, it eventually came to be that the same character will appear in two different franchises, controlled by different studios.

Now, Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige has admitted that Quicksilver isn't the only hero who lives in a "gray area."

"There are only a handful of characters that occupy that middle ground," said Feige. "Iron Man is not going to show up over there [at Fox] and Magneto is not going to show up over here [at Marvel]. But there are a few gray points even after many years of negotiations … and that only happens with a character like Quicksilver, who has been a part of the X-Men, the son of Magneto in those comics, but also a primary Avenger." With this in mind, here are five other superheroes who might occupy the same rare air as Pietro Maximoff.


Firestar

While Firestar is best known as one of Spider-Man's "Amazing Friends," the character has much stronger comic book ties to the Avengers and the X-Men. Angelica Jones made her in-continuity debut in "Uncanny X-Men" #193 where she enrolled in Emma Frost's Massachusetts Academy. She later made her way to the Avengers following her career-defining stint as a New Warrior. But in the newly released "Amazing X-Men" #1, Firestar can finally add the X-Men to her list of group affiliations, making her another X-Man/Avenger double-threat.

Bonus: Check out this clip of her one and only live-action appearance, at NBC's 1983 "Yummy Awards" TV Special!



Cloak & Dagger

While the duo known as Cloak and Dagger may not have strong ties to the Avengers, they tend to exist in the same territory occupied by the street-level heroes included in Marvel's recent deal with Netflix. These free agents usually remain unaffiliated with any larger Marvel franchise -- that is, unless doing so can goose their profile. The pair, who originally gained their light and dark powers from an experimental drug, was retconned into being mutants during the early '90s X-craze, returning to prominence in the new millennium as they served on Norman Osborn's squad of Dark X-Men. Their connection to the X-Men could be strong enough to align them with Fox, or it could be weak enough to keep them with Marvel.


Namor

Just like Cloak and Dagger, Namor was retroactively granted "first Marvel mutant" status in order to increase his profile. His '90s ongoing series featured the tagline "Marvel's first and mightiest mutant" while his '00s ongoing was subtitled "The First Mutant." But despite his retconned mutanthood, the Sub-Mariner was primarily known for his adventures alongside Captain America in the Invaders and his long stint as a full-fledged Avenger. It wasn't until the past five years that Namor became a leading X-Man -- where he became a major presence alongside heavy-hitters like Cyclops and Magneto. It's entirely possible that Fox could use Marvel's past insistence of Namor's mutanthood against Marvel Studios to get the Sub-Mariner in a Fox film.


Carol Danvers

Captain Marvel's film rights most definitely fall under Marvel Studios' control, a fact buffered by all the rumors circulating around Carol Danvers' eventual inclusion in a Marvel movie. But one can't forget the character's deep, deep ties to Marvel's mutants. Danvers is an old army buddy with Wolverine, and she served as an unofficial member of the team during the classic Brood Saga, which led to the character assuming the cosmic identity Binary and joining up with Cyclops' dad's space pirate outfit, the Starjammers. She's also irrevocably connected to the X-Man Rogue, thanks to an encounter that left the X-Man with Danvers' powerset for almost 20 years. While it's doubtful that Fox could ever use a character called Ms. Marvel or Captain Marvel in their films, one has to wonder if a character called Binary could show up, should the X-Franchise head for the stars.
 

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Been mainly reading the amazing spiderman and the Avengers comics but I stopped for awhile. I'm mostly a Marvel head, what else is there to get into on that side?
 

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Been mainly reading the amazing spiderman and the Avengers comics but I stopped for awhile. I'm mostly a Marvel head, what else is there to get into on that side?

The Walking Dead
The Wake
East vs West
Swamp Thing
Invincible


There's a ton more but I'm not by my computer right now.
 

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Yet she can't be found on other media and don't mean half as much as Wanda. Won't even be the next flick yet Wanda will. Go figure.
She's gonna be in the Ant-Man movie. Last I heard was that Rashida Jones was going to play her.
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Yet she can't be found on other media and don't mean half as much as Wanda. Won't even be the next flick yet Wanda will. Go figure.
Wanda hasn't been in shyt :heh:

Wasp was the best character in Avengers: EMH, is going to play a supporting role in the Ant-Man movie, is about to appear in the Avengers show in asia.

Wanda is a damaged good
LOL. Eye candy? She is the one they always run to beat some unstoppable threat like Ultron and shyt.
Eye candy has to do shyt every now and then
 
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