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It's a shame that seeing all these characters in one book does nothing for me. I remember growing up when "named" characters were in a book together it was like a big deal. Similar to rap in that guest appearances are the norm now but growing up they were more of a big deal
nah they did a bunch of others once that was sold well.
they did x-men, punisher (one shot) fantastic four , hulk and wolverine
The wolverine one was pretty good.
I also don't have an issue with the reboots. Certain stories just stand on their own within a specific era and are rarely mentioned much thereafter anyway.
When I first picked up on Spiderman in the 90s, Ben Riley's death was a big deal and lingering in the mythos. Norman Osborne's return (and murder of Riley) was a big deal, Harry's death was still fresh on their mind and his baby momma was fearful because Norman had plans of taking his grandson as his own 'heir'.. and given that nobody outside of the parker family/supporting cast knew that Osborne = Goblin, it was this big dark ugly secret that nobody could prove to the greater public. Most importantly of all, baby may parker was still missing but believed to be alive. Like shyt was real and the stories had a certain angst to it, like that was its own era. MJ smoking and shyt lol and Peter battling ulcers because he was always stressing.
It was a different vibe than it was a few years after that in which it was JMS's run and the focus was more so just on the mariage/separation, Peter being a teacher, and Eziekial. The Riley stuff was no longer mentioned, the baby had long since been dropped in favor of bringing back aunt may
, and Black Cat was being teased as possibly the new love interest/supporting character in Spiderman if MJ were to be ditched.All in all, it was two different eras in spiderman that felt disconnected from each other prob because the former was going a certain path that would have HAD to have ended with Peter and Mary Jane finding their baby daughter and moving forward as parents. Once it didn't go that route, and brought back aunt may to revisit some redundant ass aunt may stories (she's sick, she's in danger, she's kidnapped, she's figured out my identity.. blah blah) and some redundant Parker/MJ stories about time, commitment, giving up spiderman, etc.. it basically felt like a reboot anyway.
Not saying some of the stories from either era (or any era) weren't good/great but if I were to sit and read the whole "ben reilly/clone saga/baby may/goblin" saga again, I'd prob just see it as its own beginning middle & end stand alone story (and it 'technically' did end with Peter "retiring" as Spiderman) that was independent of anything that may have happened afterward (like the whole gwen stacey foolery in JMS's run.)
I also don't have an issue with the reboots. Certain stories just stand on their own within a specific era and are rarely mentioned much thereafter anyway.
When I first picked up on Spiderman in the 90s, Ben Riley's death was a big deal and lingering in the mythos. Norman Osborne's return (and murder of Riley) was a big deal, Harry's death was still fresh on their mind and his baby momma was fearful because Norman had plans of taking his grandson as his own 'heir'.. and given that nobody outside of the parker family/supporting cast knew that Osborne = Goblin, it was this big dark ugly secret that nobody could prove to the greater public. Most importantly of all, baby may parker was still missing but believed to be alive. Like shyt was real and the stories had a certain angst to it, like that was its own era. MJ smoking and shyt lol and Peter battling ulcers because he was always stressing.
It was a different vibe than it was a few years after that in which it was JMS's run and the focus was more so just on the mariage/separation, Peter being a teacher, and Eziekial. The Riley stuff was no longer mentioned, the baby had long since been dropped in favor of bringing back aunt may
All in all, it was two different eras in spiderman that felt disconnected from each other prob because the former was going a certain path that would have HAD to have ended with Peter and Mary Jane finding their baby daughter and moving forward as parents. Once it didn't go that route, and brought back aunt may to revisit some redundant ass aunt may stories (she's sick, she's in danger, she's kidnapped, she's figured out my identity.. blah blah) and some redundant Parker/MJ stories about time, commitment, giving up spiderman, etc.. it basically felt like a reboot anyway.
Not saying some of the stories from either era (or any era) weren't good/great but if I were to sit and read the whole "ben reilly/clone saga/baby may/goblin" saga again, I'd prob just see it as its own beginning middle & end stand alone story (and it 'technically' did end with Peter "retiring" as Spiderman) that was independent of anything that may have happened afterward (like the whole gwen stacey foolery in JMS's run.)
fukked up thing about that was they made him change the story those kids were suppose to be peter's.
yo i had the
face when peter knew those kids were not his because they never had sex. I was like the love of your life and yall are in college and he never fukked gwen stacy? I am so glad JMS cleared the air on that one because his story would have been better but the higher ups thought it would age spider man (Queusda)
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I also don't have an issue with the reboots. Certain stories just stand on their own within a specific era and are rarely mentioned much thereafter anyway.
When I first picked up on Spiderman in the 90s, Ben Riley's death was a big deal and lingering in the mythos. Norman Osborne's return (and murder of Riley) was a big deal, Harry's death was still fresh on their mind and his baby momma was fearful because Norman had plans of taking his grandson as his own 'heir'.. and given that nobody outside of the parker family/supporting cast knew that Osborne = Goblin, it was this big dark ugly secret that nobody could prove to the greater public. Most importantly of all, baby may parker was still missing but believed to be alive. Like shyt was real and the stories had a certain angst to it, like that was its own era. MJ smoking and shyt lol and Peter battling ulcers because he was always stressing.
It was a different vibe than it was a few years after that in which it was JMS's run and the focus was more so just on the mariage/separation, Peter being a teacher, and Eziekial. The Riley stuff was no longer mentioned, the baby had long since been dropped in favor of bringing back aunt may
All in all, it was two different eras in spiderman that felt disconnected from each other prob because the former was going a certain path that would have HAD to have ended with Peter and Mary Jane finding their baby daughter and moving forward as parents. Once it didn't go that route, and brought back aunt may to revisit some redundant ass aunt may stories (she's sick, she's in danger, she's kidnapped, she's figured out my identity.. blah blah) and some redundant Parker/MJ stories about time, commitment, giving up spiderman, etc.. it basically felt like a reboot anyway.
Not saying some of the stories from either era (or any era) weren't good/great but if I were to sit and read the whole "ben reilly/clone saga/baby may/goblin" saga again, I'd prob just see it as its own beginning middle & end stand alone story (and it 'technically' did end with Peter "retiring" as Spiderman) that was independent of anything that may have happened afterward (like the whole gwen stacey foolery in JMS's run.)
There is an article talking about how the original Marvel universe using the Fantastic Four as an example.
Any read Judge Dredd? Saw that they are reprinting his old stories and was thinking about checking them out. Finally get to see the movie today
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
I also don't have an issue with the reboots. Certain stories just stand on their own within a specific era and are rarely mentioned much thereafter anyway.
When I first picked up on Spiderman in the 90s, Ben Riley's death was a big deal and lingering in the mythos. Norman Osborne's return (and murder of Riley) was a big deal, Harry's death was still fresh on their mind and his baby momma was fearful because Norman had plans of taking his grandson as his own 'heir'.. and given that nobody outside of the parker family/supporting cast knew that Osborne = Goblin, it was this big dark ugly secret that nobody could prove to the greater public. Most importantly of all, baby may parker was still missing but believed to be alive. Like shyt was real and the stories had a certain angst to it, like that was its own era. MJ smoking and shyt lol and Peter battling ulcers because he was always stressing.
It was a different vibe than it was a few years after that in which it was JMS's run and the focus was more so just on the mariage/separation, Peter being a teacher, and Eziekial. The Riley stuff was no longer mentioned, the baby had long since been dropped in favor of bringing back aunt may
All in all, it was two different eras in spiderman that felt disconnected from each other prob because the former was going a certain path that would have HAD to have ended with Peter and Mary Jane finding their baby daughter and moving forward as parents. Once it didn't go that route, and brought back aunt may to revisit some redundant ass aunt may stories (she's sick, she's in danger, she's kidnapped, she's figured out my identity.. blah blah) and some redundant Parker/MJ stories about time, commitment, giving up spiderman, etc.. it basically felt like a reboot anyway.
Not saying some of the stories from either era (or any era) weren't good/great but if I were to sit and read the whole "ben reilly/clone saga/baby may/goblin" saga again, I'd prob just see it as its own beginning middle & end stand alone story (and it 'technically' did end with Peter "retiring" as Spiderman) that was independent of anything that may have happened afterward (like the whole gwen stacey foolery in JMS's run.)
JMS had some really questionable shyt going on during his run. shyt doesn't hold a candle to the current stuff.
The best things JMS did was the immediate Civil War Fallout and the first story with Morlun.
yeah theyre pretty good reads especially the sh1t he does in the cursed earth reminds me of fallout
VladTheImpaler
The Sensational Prince
Part 5 of the Godzilla ongoings already out!
Tony_Siegel
Pro
it got so psychological with it very superb story...
oh yeah....the savage land thing is where he jacked gambits bytch
Actually Magneto/Rogue did that before she ever met Gambit. Gambit was Storm's sidekick when she got turned into a little kid during that run.
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Yeah Ongoing 5 and Half Century War 2 dropped on the same day. IMO HCW blew the ongoing out of the waterPart 5 of the Godzilla ongoings already out!
Saw Dredd and then copped
Squirtle
Supreme Chancellor
Of course at the end is when things are gonna get good. 
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Hope Vs Wanda
Read Civil War: War Crimes...Kingpin made a fool out of Tony Stark in that shyt. Very good look at what makes Fisk tick.