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[Red Shield]

If a person stopped reading the X books around the time Hickman's run was coming to an end, where would they pick up? I don't care much about any unimportant side stuff. I'm just interested in knowing how everything played out with Orchis and about what ultimately happens with Krakoa.

Yah I pretty much fell off after the Sinister thing..

 

[Jmare007]

If a person stopped reading the X books around the time Hickman's run was coming to an end, where would they pick up? I don't care much about any unimportant side stuff. I'm just interested in knowing how everything played out with Orchis and about what ultimately happens with Krakoa.

The Orchis stuff was not developed that well to be honest, they kinda became generic X-Men villains and even though they are a still a formidable foe, I didn't find it very compelling once Hickman left. Regardless, if you really wanna read all the things related to them, those happened in Duggan's X-Men, specially after the first 3-6 issues which are more stand alone missions and set up.

The overall structure of the X-Line without Hickman was basically:

Duggan's X-Men: the superhero book of the line, with Orchis as the main antagonist.

Gillen's Immortal X-Men: the Quiet Council and "main plot Krakoa" book. This includes a heavy dose of Gillen's own pitch that heavily influences the direction of the overall Krakoa story.

There are two big events before the current events: A.X.E.: Judgment Day and Sins of Sinister. I thought they were dope reads but I wouldn't call them essential, you could easily get the gist of it via Wiki or Youtube if you don't want to be bothered.

To me, the legit follow up to Hickman's departure ("Inferno"), is Rise of Powers of X, that was out last week. You would be about a bunch of shyt regarding Orchis and Krakoa, but the main plot threads Hickman left in Inferno are finally being adressed in RoPoX.


PS: I know you said you just wanted to know about Orchis and Krakoa but you are doing yourself a disservice if you don't read Ewing's X-Men Red

 

[Jmare007]

Yah I pretty much fell off after the Sinister thing..

That's way past Hickman though

If you just wanna know how things develop in the big picture/bigger plot. Just wait till Fall of the House of X and Rise of the Powers of X finish and see what comes next. Everything points to the Krakoa Era being finished by Summer.

 

[parallax]

Avengers Twilight by Zdarsky was interesting. Thought the first 3/4 were dope but after the "reveal" of Luke Cage and the Defenders it kinda ended in a note. I hope there's more to this than what we were told this issue.

Acuña's art was though, a dope looking comic book for sure.

I pretty much agree with your opinion on twilight. I was all in on the worldbuilding(and an...interesting consequence to Luke's powers) but the defenders stuff feels a bit unnecessary. That reminds me. Is killing off spider man in an au good sign that the world is going to become a crapsink? Except for dark ages it seems like stories where spidey dies the whole world manages to go to shyt with it.

 

[Neuromancer]

The Orchis stuff was not developed that well to be honest, they kinda became generic X-Men villains and even though they are a still a formidable foe, I didn't find it very compelling once Hickman left.

I feel like they're a retread of every other anti mutant group.

 

[Jmare007]

I feel like they're a retread of every other anti mutant group.

Duggan made them that way, yeah. There was a very interesting plot thread left by Hickman about how the brains of the operation (humans) were being tricked by technology (Karima and Nimrod) that could've been developed in a compelling way.

But Duggan just wanted to get back to basics with his X-Men book so Orchis just became the same racist human faction that wants to exterminate mutants.

 

[Neuromancer]

There was a very interesting plot thread left by Hickman about how the brains of the operation (humans) were being tricked by technology (Karima and Nimrod) that could've been developed in a compelling way.

Hickman needs to not do that again. Very few If any people can actually follow his lead, he's too good with his ideas and usually whoever is going to take the reigns won't be as skilled as he is.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Finally finished Cates’ Venom run. So the current Venom series is his son taking over? How’s Eddie being used? Is he still old?

 

[Uncle Baby Billy]

 

[Uncle Baby Billy]

Finally finished Cates’ Venom run. So the current Venom series is his son taking over? How’s Eddie being used? Is he still old?

Eddie is traveling through time battling his evil future selves.
His son is Venom with chains on his wrists, investigating his father's disappearance.
Black Widow also has a symbiote now and helps Dylan.

 

[Neuromancer]

A reboot so soon?

 

[King Harlem]

Hopefully new books sparks Aaron's writing ability again.
I'm enjoying his Batman and Superman books so far, but it's still pretty early.

 

[MenacingMonk]

Eddie is traveling through time battling his evil future selves.
His son is Venom with chains on his wrists, investigating his father's disappearance.
Black Widow also has a symbiote now and helps Dylan.

Eddie’s story sounds dope.

Don’t know if I wanna read the entire series just for that. What issue does it start? I might just read his sections.

 

[Uncle Baby Billy]

Eddie’s story sounds dope.

Don’t know if I wanna read the entire series just for that. What issue does it start? I might just read his sections.

I'm bot sure if it was the even issues only, but basically only the issues written by Ewing.
The Dylan story is by Ram V and Torunn.

 

[Uncle Baby Billy]

A reboot so soon?

1) Just a new series, same continuity
2) It's been the same continuity for like 12 years now.