The Official Coach Prime and the Colorado Buffaloes Thread

[Big Boss]

yeah he said it in the postgame

And folks were blaming Sean Lewis for the clock management

 

[vino]

And folks were blaming Sean Lewis for the clock management

Yeah, you can tell that wasn’t Sean Lewis call because it was too bad of time management.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

I don’t know about him being pushed out or sabotage. I hate junk videos like this. The line was bad and the offense was limited. It’s just a team calling an audible to figure out new strategy to win.

The offensive line vs UCLA played like they didn’t know who to block most of the game.

You got a 5’9 170 lbs back being asked to block.

The offensive game planning was trash.

And they had 2 weeks to prepare. The only reason why they played well against TCU is because TCU did have any film on that team. USC’s defense is trash.

 

[Left.A1]

c00ns out in full force

This is ridiculous. Lewis was the second coming against TCU, Neb and CSU. They don’t win those games without him nor do they beat ASU or almost comeback against USC. Shadeur said he changed to the running plays at the end of the USC game.

This is definitely not true lol …CU was once again stagnant as hell for a whole half of football against Nebraska and it was the defense and the turnovers of Nebraskas QB that turned the tide in that game …same for the CSU game ..that’s where the “slow start” talk began …let’s not start rewriting history …he had a great scheme dialed up against TCU ..everything else particularly the consistency level has been mid …

You talk about his OLine being bad and it has been however that doesn’t excuse the OC ..what kind of playcslling and personnel packages is he going to to help that bad OLine ..is he going into max protects? No …is he using his TE to help chip more often? No …does he move the pocket for #2? No … and Shedeur said he changed those plays because his guys weren’t in the same page …who should be responsible for making sure the offensive players are on the same page…or “coordinate” them?

 

[CoryMack]

c00ns out in full force

This is definitely not true lol …CU was once again stagnant as hell for a whole half of football against Nebraska and it was the defense and the turnovers of Nebraskas QB that turned the tide in that game …same for the CSU game ..that’s where the “slow start” talk began …let’s not start rewriting history …he had a great scheme dialed up against TCU ..everything else particularly the consistency level has been mid …

You talk about his OLine being bad and it has been however that doesn’t excuse the OC ..what kind of playcslling and personnel packages is he going to to help that bad OLine ..is he going into max protects? No …is he using his TE to help chip more often? No …does he move the pocket for #2? No … and Shedeur said he changed those plays because his guys weren’t in the same page …who should be responsible for making sure the offensive players are on the same page…or “coordinate” them?

They were stagnant against Neb because Tony Smith is a good DC and called a good game, and if Neb would've had a QB they probably win that game. I don't remember any "slow start" talk against CSU and that's not what the box score shows. They both scored 14 pts in the first qtr and the score was 21-14 CSU at the half. CSU just came ready to play.

What directive has the HC laid down to help the OL? Again, Deion is the HC and can overrule anything Lewis calls. The HC sets the tone week to week. It's on the HC to have the final say on every play called during the game. If Deion says his QB is taking too many hits and we need to start doing x, y, and z then that's what Lewis has to do. I mean all of the sudden we're trying to act like Lewis is acting independently of Deion, and if that's the case that goes back to what I said about the HC not doing his job.

As far as Shedeur changing those plays at the end of the USC game, I don't remember what the time out situation was or know what plays were called, but the fact remains that Shedeur changed the plays. So there's no sabotaging going on. The OC was obviously on his job and the offense on the same page enough to make the comeback and almost win, so I don't see blaming the OC all of the sudden at the end when the QB mismanaged the clock.

If you watched JSU while Deion was there, and I watched every game, this is exactly what he did there. He runs the Air Raid because he wants to showcase Shedeur. But he also built the team the same way, with alotta skill players and an average Oline. And Shedeur took alotta hits at JSU, the difference was that Flea would run the ball more, and they had more talent than everyone so they could run when they needed to.

Well he's not gonna "out-talent" everyone at this level, and at some point he's gonna have to actually start doing some coaching.

 

[Big Boss]

They were stagnant against Neb because Tony Smith is a good DC and called a good game, and if Neb would've had a QB they probably win that game. I don't remember any "slow start" talk against CSU and that's not what the box score shows. They both scored 14 pts in the first qtr and the score was 21-14 CSU at the half. CSU just came ready to play.

What directive has the HC laid down to help the OL? Again, Deion is the HC and can overrule anything Lewis calls. The HC sets the tone week to week. It's on the HC to have the final say on every play called during the game. If Deion says his QB is taking too many hits and we need to start doing x, y, and z then that's what Lewis has to do. I mean all of the sudden we're trying to act like Lewis is acting independently of Deion, and if that's the case that goes back to what I said about the HC not doing his job.

As far as Shedeur changing those plays at the end of the USC game, I don't remember what the time out situation was or know what plays were called, but the fact remains that Shedeur changed the plays. So there's no sabotaging going on. The OC was obviously on his job and the offense on the same page enough to make the comeback and almost win, so I don't see blaming the OC all of the sudden at the end when the QB mismanaged the clock.

If you watched JSU while Deion was there, and I watched every game, this is exactly what he did there. He runs the Air Raid because he wants to showcase Shedeur. But he also built the team the same way, with alotta skill players and an average Oline. And Shedeur took alotta hits at JSU, the difference was that Flea would run the ball more, and they had more talent than everyone so they could run when they needed to.

Well he's not gonna "out-talent" everyone at this level, and at some point he's gonna have to actually start doing some coaching.

 

[aceboon]

They were stagnant against Neb because Tony Smith is a good DC and called a good game, and if Neb would've had a QB they probably win that game. I don't remember any "slow start" talk against CSU and that's not what the box score shows. They both scored 14 pts in the first qtr and the score was 21-14 CSU at the half. CSU just came ready to play.

What directive has the HC laid down to help the OL? Again, Deion is the HC and can overrule anything Lewis calls. The HC sets the tone week to week. It's on the HC to have the final say on every play called during the game. If Deion says his QB is taking too many hits and we need to start doing x, y, and z then that's what Lewis has to do. I mean all of the sudden we're trying to act like Lewis is acting independently of Deion, and if that's the case that goes back to what I said about the HC not doing his job.

As far as Shedeur changing those plays at the end of the USC game, I don't remember what the time out situation was or know what plays were called, but the fact remains that Shedeur changed the plays. So there's no sabotaging going on. The OC was obviously on his job and the offense on the same page enough to make the comeback and almost win, so I don't see blaming the OC all of the sudden at the end when the QB mismanaged the clock.

If you watched JSU while Deion was there, and I watched every game, this is exactly what he did there. He runs the Air Raid because he wants to showcase Shedeur. But he also built the team the same way, with alotta skill players and an average Oline. And Shedeur took alotta hits at JSU, the difference was that Flea would run the ball more, and they had more talent than everyone so they could run when they needed to.

Well he's not gonna "out-talent" everyone at this level, and at some point he's gonna have to actually start doing some coaching.

They had a pick six in the CSU game, the CU offense scored 13pts before that game tying 98 yard drive near the end of regulation. Their offense was ass in that game and it took Lewis 3 entire quarters before he finally started utilizing their TE Mikey Harrison in the middle of the field on short passing routes because their OL couldn't block in that game.

 

[Left.A1]

They were stagnant against Neb because Tony Smith is a good DC and called a good game, and if Neb would've had a QB they probably win that game. I don't remember any "slow start" talk against CSU and that's not what the box score shows. They both scored 14 pts in the first qtr and the score was 21-14 CSU at the half. CSU just came ready to play.

You’re all over the place my nikka… first it was Lewis was the hero of the Nebraska game and now you’re backtracking and agreeing that they we’re stagnant but it’s because of Nebraska’s greatness And also pretending that only putting up 14 7points in a half against a non power 5 team is acceptable…like bruh stop …just stop …I have no idea what you been watching

What directive has the HC laid down to help the OL? Again, Deion is the HC and can overrule anything Lewis calls. The HC sets the tone week to week. It's on the HC to have the final say on every play called during the game. If Deion says his QB is taking too many hits and we need to start doing x, y, and z then that's what Lewis has to do. I mean all of the sudden we're trying to act like Lewis is acting independently of Deion, and if that's the case that goes back to what I said about the HC not doing his job.

The directive is obviously removing some authority from a coordinator that isn’t getting the job done in the way he entrusted him to when he hired him You can’t talk out of both sides of your mouth and complain about “no directive being set” but then when action is taken complain about the action as well.. it’s just arguing to argue

As far as Shedeur changing those plays at the end of the USC game, I don't remember what the time out situation was or know what plays were called, but the fact remains that Shedeur changed the plays. So there's no sabotaging going on. The OC was obviously on his job and the offense on the same page enough to make the comeback and almost win, so I don't see blaming the OC all of the sudden at the end when the QB mismanaged the clock.

Shedeur out of his own mouth (since you’re using his quote let’s use the full context not just the part you like) said that he changed the plays because guys weren’t coordinated ..not just because “hey I’m sheduer doing wild shyt today wooooo!” and he didn’t want bad plays as a result of the uncoordinated offense …now again for the second time ..who’s job is it to coordinate the offense? I just need a simple answer

If you watched JSU while Deion was there, and I watched every game, this is exactly what he did there. He runs the Air Raid because he wants to showcase Shedeur. But he also built the team the same way, with alotta skill players and an average Oline. And Shedeur took alotta hits at JSU, the difference was that Flea would run the ball more, and they had more talent than everyone so they could run when they needed to.

Damn near every team runs some element of an air raid offense nikka …welcome to modern college football using a common modern offense philosophy to excuse the issues with Sean Lewis sounds out of touch

Well he's not gonna "out-talent" everyone at this level, and at some point he's gonna have to actually start doing some coaching.

And obviously he felt that he could “out coach” enough people with Lewis calling the plays …making the executive decision to remove to him from that role IS “doing some coaching” …as the HC is responsible for his players as well as his staff ..don’t even know how that arguable

 

[Left.A1]

They had a pick six in the CSU game, the CU offense scored 13pts before that game tying 98 yard drive near the end of regulation. Their offense was ass in that game and it took Lewis 3 entire quarters before he finally started utilizing their TE Mikey Harrison in the middle of the field on short passing routes because their OL couldn't block in that game.

That offense was terrible against a non power 5 defense …how anyone could use that game to prop up Lewis is insane to me

 

[aceboon]

That offense was terrible against a non power 5 defense …how anyone could use that game to prop up Lewis is insane to me

He probably just looked at the points scored and didn't watch the game, not knowing that point total got propped up by OT and the pick six. They could barely move the ball that game, that's when I really started looking at Lewis funny because a middle of the pack/bottom tier MWC defense had them bottled up and he was too slow to adjust.

 

[CoryMack]

They had a pick six in the CSU game, the CU offense scored 13pts before that game tying 98 yard drive near the end of regulation. Their offense was ass in that game and it took Lewis 3 entire quarters before he finally started utilizing their TE Mikey Harrison in the middle of the field on short passing routes because their OL couldn't block in that game.

well that's football. nobody is going to lay down and let Colorado run over them to further some Coach Prime narrative. Colorado had more talent than CSU but the staff at CSU had a better game plan and their team more ready to play. Happens every week.

 

[Left.A1]

He probably just looked at the points scored and didn't watch the game, not knowing that point total got propped up by OT and the pick six. They could barely move the ball that game, that's when I really started looking at Lewis funny because a middle of the pack/bottom tier MWC defense had them bottled up and he was too slow to adjust.

He’s always slow to adjust, that’s his main problem. I don’t think he’s trash or anything I just think he still needs some time to develop as a play caller on a major power 5 level. I really can’t comprehend anyone who’s actually watched this teams offense and the lack of stylistic adjustments or lack in ability to pivot based on the personnel you have from Lewis and pretend to be surprised about this …like it’s just silly… their offense is supposed to be their strong suit with a QB as good as Shedeur …you HAVE to adjust your protections if he’s getting beat up ..you HAVE to adjust your personnel packages if he can’t even get into the top of his drops …and that’s for whoever they have in there at OC ..that’s your job point blank period …there’s no need to make excuses for that

 

[Left.A1]

well that's football. nobody is going to lay down and let Colorado run over them to further some Coach Prime narrative. Colorado had more talent than CSU but the staff at CSU had a better game plan and their team more ready to play. Happens every week.

Took a while for you to get there… but you eventually nailed the landing

 

[theflyest]

He probably just looked at the points scored and didn't watch the game, not knowing that point total got propped up by OT and the pick six. They could barely move the ball that game, that's when I really started looking at Lewis funny because a middle of the pack/bottom tier MWC defense had them bottled up and he was too slow to adjust.

He's not watching the games.

One could argue the only good game that Lewis had was the TCU game.

 

[CoryMack]

You’re all over the place my nikka… first it was Lewis was the hero of the Nebraska game and now you’re backtracking and agreeing that they we’re stagnant but it’s because of Nebraska’s greatness And also pretending that only putting up 14 7points in a half against a non power 5 team is acceptable…like bruh stop …just stop …I have no idea what you been watching

I didn't say Lewis was the hero of anything. I was repeating what was being said everywhere else. He was good enough for the winning. Nebraska played good defense and has a good DC. They just got worn down. As far as scoring 7 points in a half goes, acceptable to you or not, that's what happened and happens every week where one team comes ready to play and the other isn't, where one team has a better game plan than the other. I've watched every Colorado game this year. I think some of you dudes are so used to playing video game football you don't understand how the real game is played. You don't just roll over teams because you're P5 and they aren't.

The directive is obviously removing some authority from a coordinator that isn’t getting the job done in the way he entrusted him to when he hired him You can’t talk out of both sides of your mouth and complain about “no directive being set” but then when action is taken complain about the action as well.. it’s just arguing to argue

Shedeur out of his own mouth (since you’re using his quote let’s use the full context not just the part you like) said that he changed the plays because guys weren’t coordinated ..not just because “hey I’m sheduer doing wild shyt today wooooo!” and he didn’t want bad plays as a result of the uncoordinated offense …now again for the second time ..who’s job is it to coordinate the offense? I just need a simple answer

I didn't complain and I don't care about him removing Lewis. Matter of fact I said I applaud him for making the move, and you quoted that post so I don't know what you're talking about here. But the reality is the HC lays out the game plan, or he approves the game plan his coordinators give him. Shedeur didn't just start getting hit these last couple weeks, he was taking hits since week 1, so if the coaching staff, led by Prime, didn't see fit to fix that I don't know what to tell you.

And again, they were coordinated enough to almost come back and win the game, but when the clock is mismanaged there at the end suddenly there's a lack of coordination. I gave you your simple answer the first time, you just didn't like the answer and want me to remix it.

Damn near every team runs some element of an air raid offense nikka …welcome to modern college football using a common modern offense philosophy to excuse the issues with Sean Lewis sounds out of touch

And obviously he felt that he could “out coach” enough people with Lewis calling the plays …making the executive decision to remove to him from that role IS “doing some coaching” …as the HC is responsible for his players as well as his staff ..don’t even know how that arguable

I didn't use the Air Raid to excuse anything. Deion was running the Air Raid at JSU. Did Lewis run the Air Raid at Kent St.? Was his QB getting beat up at Kent St.? I don't know. But I know Shedeur was taking hits at JSU, and Lewis wasn't on the staff there.

The reality is he obviously couldn't outcoach enough people with Lewis or the DC. If you wanna call removing Lewis "coaching" that's cool. When I say "coaching" I'm talking about the overall game plan along with making in-game decisions and adjustments depending on how the game is going.