Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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OGBobbyJohnson
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This dana and Khan ting looks trash
Turki better do something superb with this Wrestle mania card ..
fukking Ayrab rich ho
Turki better do something superb with this Wrestle mania card ..
fukking Ayrab rich ho
He understands the vibes..the Triple gawd was awesome
Dana has been wanting to get into boxing for years, it just never made sense until now.
I honestly believe he lowkey prefers boxing anyway, which is why he’s pursuing this.
I’m interested to see how this works out.
((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL
RIP MR. SMOKE
Dana White
Also not seeing how tf a WWE guy comes here.
Well one positive is that they'll be bringing their presentation with them. Which has been the biggest flaw in all of boxing since HBO left the game. UFC's presentation is outstanding. So I'm looking forward to how they change things up. Rumors that the bud vs canelo fight be the first fight that they handle. And they're saying it could be on Netflix
....if so, they better get their shyt together. That Jake Paul vs Tyson live stream was a disaster.Rumors in boxing circles persist that TKO, the owner of UFC and WWE, will promote the fight date that is being prepared for later in 2025 between Saul "Canelo" Alvarez and Terence Crawford, which they plan to broadcast on Netflix, and to host at the Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas in September.
The Ring joins forces with TKO and Sela
A partnership between The Ring, TKO and Sela has been announced, combining the forces of Dana White, Turki Alalshikh and other notable power brokers.
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reservoirdogs
Superstar
What’s the point of this whole thing?Well one positive is that they'll be bringing their presentation with them. Which has been the biggest flaw in all of boxing since HBO left the game. UFC's presentation is outstanding. So I'm looking forward to how they change things up. Rumors that the bud vs canelo fight be the first fight that they handle. And they're saying it could be on Netflix
Rumors in boxing circles persist that TKO, the owner of UFC and WWE, will promote the fight date that is being prepared for later in 2025 between Saul "Canelo" Alvarez and Terence Crawford, which they plan to broadcast on Netflix, and to host at the Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas in September.
The Ring joins forces with TKO and Sela
A partnership between The Ring, TKO and Sela has been announced, combining the forces of Dana White, Turki Alalshikh and other notable power brokers.
Boxing’s problem was/is too many different promoters, belts and networks make the best fighting the best difficult.
In the last few years we definitely had an improvement, even before the Royadh Season cards but since then it’s even more evident. The good fights are happening. Out of the 14 undisputed champions in the 4 belt era 12 of them came 2017 and after, 10 came in the last 5 years.
Then when everything seems to be working out Turki brings in a WWE promoter (why?) and Dana White who most of boxing fans don’t like at all and who promoted his own shyt for years by shytting on boxing.
Why not just buy all the 4 belt organizations (he already bought 1) and let these promoters compete for that 1 world title/division? Why is Dana White and a new promotion needed for this?
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Additionally I know White is a MAGA scumbag who forces Trump and his far right politics to UFC viewers too. I don’t want to watch fukking Trump and his endorsments on these cards 
Breh, I watched every Hagler fight out there. Willie the Worm Monroe, Bobby Boogaloo Watts, etc.. I agree with what you said about his boxing skill I just think he only fought one way and was able to get away with it because he was so good unlike Leonard who had to stick to specific game plans and even then had to make mid fight adjustments.
Against Benitez, Hearns, and specifically Hagler.
Take Duran for instance. Ray didn’t do shyt that 2nd fight but he frustrated the hell out of Duran. He knew it would be hard to beat Duran at his own game. Hagler would’ve never fought like that, he would’ve been embarrassed. Later Duran told Leonard he would beat Hagler if they fought. Hagler admitted he was frustrated fighting Duran because he kept trying to do the same thing over and over and could not get the success he wanted because of Duran’s excellent timing. What worked on Hearns didn’t work on Duran as good a boxer as Hagler he played in to Duran hands. Barkley did same thing.
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((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL
RIP MR. SMOKE
I think Turks plan was always to create one company similar to UFC. Which is why he bought out the ring . Then he's going to have the ring belt be the official belt for the entire sport. Shutting out all sanctioning bodies for good.
We've definitely gotten good matchups in recent years but the problem is most of em didn't get the recognition they should have. A fight like Bivol vs beterbiev should have been massive for the sport. But that comes down to marketing. And that's one area where Dana white excels in. He's good at promoting these foreign guys who don't speak any English. If boxing had better promoters Artur beterbiev should be as big as Alex Pereira right now. An absolute monster who had a perfect ko percentage for years. It's a damn joke that he's still basically unknown to the public. And that's exactly why a scumbag like Dana white has been able to position himself to take over.
Too many dinosaurs have been running boxing for too long and they took it for granted. And now they're about to be extinct. They did it to themselves. ESPN, dazn, and pbc have done a HORRIBLE job promoting these fighters and putting on decent coverage. Presentation wise, all of these companies are still stuck in the stone ages. Even in the tank vs roach fight they would barely even give us any decent replays in between rounds. And that's how it is for every fight. The shyt is fukkin pathetic. There's zero excuses for how terrible boxing presentation has been since HBO left the game. That's why I don't feel bad for any of these companies. This is exactly what they deserve.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
I don’t feel sorry for boxing promoters or especially belt organizations either but
1: If they are getting “replaced” they should be replaced by someone better, not even worse
2: No guarantee that they could take over the whole sport, even with the Saudi money, boxing’s talent pool is MUCH deeper than MMA’s, it’s unlikely that one organization can cover all.
3: I’m no UFC fan but I’ve seen a card or two in the last 10 years, to me the difference in presentation wasn’t evident. It’s similar to boxing with more stats, stats are present in boxing too but they are misleading.
4: As far as the promotion goes the UFC has more of WWE like cartoonish promotion to it where everyone has to act animated and I fukking hate that, hope you don’t mean boxing promotion will be like that. It’s ok if there’s some fukkery but it’s annoying if it’s so forced.
5: What about the Ali act? Shouldn’t it prevent a monopoly? It was created to prevent the exploitation of pro fighters.
6: Finally I’m skeptical of Dana White’s talent. As I know he, with a lot of help from his partners made the UFC a big brand which sold itself more than individual fighters with some expectations like McGregor. Point is a lot of ppl still buy into the brand, not necessarily the fighters. Have they built up a true crossover star since the McGregor, Nurmagomedov times? I don’t know about it.
As I read on multiple places UFC is in kind of a downturn now partly because what I’ve written above: no crossover stars.
It’s nice that he recognized that there might be an interest in the young sport of MMA, can’t take that away from him but boxing is a different sport with different culture, a richer talent pool, etc. It won’t be a cakewalk to just have all the top talent like he does in MMA.
I’m curious of what will happen but I really think forcing one new promotion instead of just buying out the belt organizations and let competition happen is terrible idea, esoecially with Dana White and for some reason a WWE guy.
A league?
It will be cursed by injuries.
It will be cursed by injuries.
chunky_mcdaniels
All Star
The commissions didn't want to let him in, which is a good thing.
Now we just have more scumbag Americans to deal with.
Bleed The Freak
Superstar
There's pros and cons with him getting involved with boxing
- The dissolution of sanctioning bodies and their multiple belts and handing out candy stripe belts because they feel like it and taking the fighters money to get some crappy belt I'm all for
- telling dudes they can't cross the street or the promoter getting in the way I'm tired of
- guy sitting on the shelf cuz they got money from their promoter and fighting once every 3 years I'm tired of
- fights taking 6 hours for four fights is ridiculous
- crappy undercards I'm tired of
- sanctioning bodies stripping fighters of belts and handing it to someone undeserving I'm tired of.
- everybody taking the Floyd Mayweather approach and thinking they're the A-side I'm tired of
The negative to it is if he treats this like you UFC it could have a severe down effect on the fighters purses. I think Turki could keep that from happening.
There's a strong likelihood they're going to muscle out every other promoter eventually and it's all going to be rolling under him. He may sign them to erroneous deals with all sorts of clauses in it that keep people from leaving.
I seriously doubt he's going to let people do one-off fight so they can go somewhere else and stay free agents their entire career
At some point he's going to start strong arming people to signing deals that they don't like or want to because they're the only player in the game.
My hope is that the big promoters start playing nicer together by default so they don't get swallowed whole. It should also make fighters more active because they have other options or the money will be so lucrative it'll get them off their asses.
I don't care if you're a fan of Golden Boy, Top Rank, Matchroom, Queensberry all their foolishness over the years allowed this to happen.
It even spilled over to the fans of that nonsense because then they tell guys that they had no reason to go fight somebody on another platform.
I personally just hope that Turki can keep Dana's worst impulses at bay. Aka trashing fighters, getting mad that they want to be paid and compensated their worth or just not listening to him.
I'll tell you right now boxers ain't going to put up with him trashing them like them UFC fighters do. They've had too much established of a business model to not tolerate somebody strong arming them particularly in the last 30 years.
Fighters have their own sponsors, promotions, LLC's and Dana saying you can't do that ain't fukkin happening
There's a reason why he never set up a boxing league directly just like the UFC operated. He needed the pockets of someone else to pay fighters because there's just no way that was a duplicated business model that could work.
There will not be a single boxing champion under that league that's stepping in the ring for less than 15-20million dollars no matter what he says. Even your Tank or Devin level dude ain't taking 500,000- 1mm. Ain't happening.
Even though he's washed Anthony Joshua wouldn't sign that shyt he still sells out football stadiums
They will stay exactly where they are until the lights go off before they'll sign with him
If it can just be UFC level production and reach with the pockets to pay the guys it's a win-win
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