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[Bigblackted4]

 

[010101]

basically i agree
aj can't paw deontay off and doesn't have the wheels to stay away from a nuke dropping on his headtop
it's the athleticism and explosiveness they hope time can fade

aj is overweight whether it's fat or muscle extra weight has a price
shyt is sucking up oxygen and stiffening the fluency in his movements
deontay is raw but that's part of the danger

bro is out there hitting eurostep rightcrosses and crossover windmill upprcuts woahohohohohoho
some of the shyt he was throwing at stiverne was hilarious none of these other big heavies move their feet like that
it's not textbook but it's just like in ball when you get a big out on the perimeter you attack his feet
cause you know he can't match your steps

it's not a sure thing and aj may be able to handle it but deontay gives aj more to worry about than aj does deontay
my casual opinion
what you think ring vets¿

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[reservoirdogs]

I already told you Res, I don't think all that breaking down will be necessary for this type of fight.



It's gonna come down to simply: Can Joshua take Wilder's punch? Can Wilder take Joshua's punch?



All the breakdown isn't going to be needed. To me? I see 2 guys with suspect chins, but dynamite in their gloves. Only thing we're going to find out is who has the better chin.



It's not going to be a "who can outbox whom?" type of matchup...it's a "who can land first" type of clash. Think Julian Jackson vs Terry Norris.

It's okay, I disagree though
I think with these types of matchups too it can count which one of them can work his way to land a punch or combination which ends it first and why, even if it lasts only a couple of rounds except if it really lasts only one rounds or so but I doubt that. It's not like they gonna go ahead face first swinging.

 

[Newzz]

It's okay, I disagree though
I think with these types of matchups too it can count which one of them can work his way to land a punch or combination which ends it first and why, even if it lasts only a couple of rounds except if it really lasts only one rounds or so but I doubt that. It's not like they gonna go ahead face first swinging.

Neither of them are greatly skilled though and imo, Wilder's 1-2 is better than anything Joshua has in his arsenal.



I've never even seen Joshua set someone up. Just hard punches again and again until they fall over or he gasses, recovers, and back to hard punches again & again



Wilder at least lulls you to sleep pumping the jab and then drops the bomb over the top. And the fact he's so tall + his reach, he can go over the top of every Top HW today.

 

[Newzz]

Fury Reacts To Joshua: You Got Saved From a Midget, Bum City!

By George Mills, courtesy of The Daily Star

TYSON FURY appears to have finally got underneath Anthony Joshua’s skin after the unified heavyweight king sent an expletive tweet to Fury this morning.

Joshua has refrained from responding to his heavyweight rival on numerous occasions – despite Fury’s best efforts to provoke him – but appeared to lose his patience with the 29-year-old this morning.

During an unusually ill-tempered Twitter rant, AJ took aim at WBO champion Joseph Parker and WBC king Deontay Wilder, accusing both men of holding up negotiations to fight.

He then rounded on Fury - who has not been seen in the ring since November 2015 – writing: “Get fit you fat f***.”

Responding to the WBA, IBO and IBF unified champ on Instagram this afternoon, Fury said: “It’s a new one because he usually doesn’t swear and tries to not be himself.

“He’s being himself now which is good. I really don’t need to get fit for you, put it that way To be honest with you me ole mate, I don’t need to get fit for somebody like you.

“I could come to you and I could punch all of your face right in for you – even at 25st. I really don’t need to get fit for you, put it that way. I’ve seen what you’re about, you just fought a midget the other day in a hard fight.

“The referee had to stop it in case you got caught or beat. Bum city, like I always said.”

Joshua overcame a resilient Carlos Takam last month during a mandatory defence of his heavyweight titles, stopping the Frenchman in controversial style in the 10th round.

Takam, 36, claimed the referee pulled him out of the fight too early, despite heavy cuts above both of his eyes.

Victory now sets up a mouth-watering 2018 for the 28-year-old, with fights against Parker, Wilder and Fury on the horizon.

Wilder, nicknamed The Bronze Bomber, appears in pole position to face AJ next, with promoter Eddie Hearn confirming negotiations will begin this week for a money-spinning heavyweight unification fight.


Fury Reacts To Joshua: You Got Saved From a Midget, Bum City! - Boxing News

 

[reservoirdogs]

basically i agree
aj can't paw deontay off and doesn't have the wheels to stay away from a nuke dropping on his headtop
it's the athleticism and explosiveness they hope time can fade

aj is overweight whether it's fat or muscle extra weight has a price
shyt is sucking up oxygen and stiffening the fluency in his movements
deontay is raw but that's part of the danger

bro is out there hitting eurostep rightcrosses and crossover windmill upprcuts woahohohohohoho
some of the shyt he was throwing at stiverne was hilarious none of these other big heavies move their feet like that
it's not textbook but it's just like in ball when you get a big out on the perimeter you attack his feet
cause you know he can't match your steps

it's not a sure thing and aj may be able to handle it but deontay gives aj more to worry about than aj does deontay
my casual opinion
what you think ring vets¿

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AJ can't/shouldn't stay on the outside, he needs to work on get mid range or close to Wilder where he's much less effective. It's not easy if Wilder is on the top of his game but if fighters like Szpilka could get on his ass through rounds and rounds I think Joshua can too and unlike the Szpilkas of the world he's physically stronger than Wilder too which can be to his advantage on the inside/pocket and he is also overall a better pressure fighter than those while Wilder's defense isn't the best to say at least. If he can't keep you outside he's in trouble.

Joshua gasses and Wilder carries one punch KO power so the longer it goes the more likely Wilder's win is, in order to win Wilder has to stay outside cause he's more mobile and a little longer plus he really is only effective from long range. Having a shorter but bigger opponent on the inside like Joshua who's also a good in-fighter would be a nightmare to Wilder. Wilder isn't a great counter-puncher either otherwise I would give him a much better chance than now. His counter KO over Szpilka was nice but that also came after 8 rounds of Szpilka pressuring him and I can't recall any other case when he countered someone like that. Joshua won't give him the same time and opportunity. Wilder when he's pressured actually just tries to go back in a straight line with his arms up and if the opponent reaches him he tries to cover up and then hug, against Joshua this shyt won't work.

I think it's more likely that Joshua gets close to him and bombs him out with combinations in 5-6 rounds than Wilder catching a faded Joshua with a big right in the second half of the fight. Cause I don't think it will go to the second half.
Also Joshua really only has to be prepared for Wilder's straight right as he scores just about every of his KOs with that while Wilder has to be careful with almost everything Joshua throws with both hands, mostly uppercuts and hooks

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

What pressure fighter did Wilder have trouble with??

 

[Black_Jesus]

Smh Wilder couldn’t even fill out the Barclays arena.

Joshua sold 80 thousand in wales which is an entirely different country to England. Wilder can’t even sell out at the Mecca of boxing smh.

Joshua can sell more tickets in wilders country than he can smh

Bum squad fans don’t even support dude like that smh :Drakesadd:

None of this shyt will matter when AJ steps in the ring against Wilder and gets put in the hospital..

Ask Kell Brook

 

[Newzz]

"Bu-bu-but, it's gonna be in the UK"

 

[reservoirdogs]

Neither of them are greatly skilled though and imo, Wilder's 1-2 is better than anything Joshua has in his arsenal.



I've never even seen Joshua set someone up. Just hard punches again and again until they fall over or he gasses, recovers, and back to hard punches again & again



Wilder at least lulls you to sleep pumping the jab and then drops the bomb over the top. And the fact he's so tall + his reach, he can go over the top of every Top HW today.

I think Joshua is actually a very good combination puncher
not really a 1-2 type of guy but he has a not great but solid jab and he's mostly good with hooks and uppercuts, his straight right ain't trash either but not really his favorite type of punch
I think he has one of the best uppercut game right now, also his inside game is strong.

Wilder being all about long range, 1-2s and straight punches while Joshua being more about midrange/inside, combinations and curved punches make all this matchup all more interesting
whoever can force the pace and can fight in a range which is favorable to him gonna win so... gonna knock the other fighter the fukk out.

 

[010101]

AJ can't/shouldn't stay on the outside, he needs to work on get mid range or close to Wilder where he's much less effective. It's not easy if Wilder is on the top of his game but if fighters like Szpilka could get on his ass through rounds and rounds I think Joshua can too and unlike the Szpilkas of the world he's physically stronger than Wilder too which can be to his advantage on the inside/pocket and he is also overall a better pressure fighter than those while Wilder's defense isn't the best to say at least. If he can't keep you outside he's in trouble.

Joshua gasses and Wilder carries one punch KO power so the longer it goes the more likely Wilder's win is, in order to win Wilder has to stay outside cause he's more mobile and a little longer plus he really is only effective from long range. Having a shorter but bigger opponent on the inside like Joshua who's also a good in-fighter would be a nightmare to Wilder. Wilder isn't a great counter-puncher either otherwise I would give him a much better chance than now. His counter KO over Szpilka was nice but that also came after 8 rounds of Szpilka pressuring him and I can't recall any other case when he countered someone like that. Joshua won't give him the same time and opportunity. Wilder when he's pressured actually just tries to go back in a straight line with his arms up and if the opponent reaches him he tries to cover up and then hug, against Joshua this shyt won't work.

I think it's more likely that Joshua gets close to him and bombs him out with combinations in 5-6 rounds than Wilder catching a faded Joshua with a big right in the second half of the fight. Cause I don't think it will go to the second half.
Also Joshua really only has to be prepared for Wilder's straight right as he scores just about every of his KOs with that while Wilder has to be careful with almost everything Joshua throws with both hands, mostly uppercuts and hooks

aj just gotta go in and not trip any wires but i don't know if he has the dance moves¿
it's defuse or detonate¿

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[reservoirdogs]

aj just gotta go in and not trip any wires but i don't know if he has the dance moves¿
it's defuse or detonate¿

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He could solve it somehow against Wladimir Klitschko who is all about keeping the distance between him and the opponent and he's better at it than Wilder.
I heard some ppl asking what if Wilder catches AJ with the same right as Klitschko. I think we can ask the same way what if AJ catches Wilder the same way he caught Wlad in the 5th round. Wlad somehow survived the round and Joshua got gassed quicker in rushing for the KO, but could wilder survive the same way? I don't think so.

 

[Newzz]

He could solve it somehow against Wladimir Klitschko who is all about keeping the distance between him and the opponent and he's better at it than Wilder.
I heard some ppl asking what if Wilder catches AJ with the same right as Klitschko. I think we can ask the same way what if AJ catches Wilder the same way he caught Wlad in the 5th round. Wlad somehow survived the round and Joshua got gassed quicker in rushing for the KO, but could wilder survive the same way? I don't think so.

Wilder has a better chin & movement than Wlad

 

[reservoirdogs]

Wilder has a better chin & movement than Wlad

Not so sure about the first one, the second yes

tbh Wilder reminds me a little of the raw, pre-Steward Klitschko.
Fights long, hits like a mule but vulnerable

 

[010101]

He could solve it somehow against Wladimir Klitschko who is all about keeping the distance between him and the opponent and he's better at it than Wilder.
I heard some ppl asking what if Wilder catches AJ with the same right as Klitschko. I think we can ask the same way what if AJ catches Wilder the same way he caught Wlad in the 5th round. Wlad somehow survived the round and Joshua got gassed quicker in rushing for the KO, but could wilder survive the same way? I don't think so.

never seen klit brake out no stepover into a cross deontay can be a little akward and spastic
that off rhythm shyt makes very stiff straight laced fighters uncomfortable
i say 51/50 leaning towards deontay cause he can be a real wildboy in the ring jahahahahaa

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