The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
That was odd,,,,,,,,. Not Jean Pascal vs kovalev 2 stamina bad but still concerning.
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Kunty McPhuck
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just like ward didn't want no more smoke with kovalev right......we already know the rematch will happen in may. canelo just doing what A sides do and letting the other side know he's still in control. and just like the kov-ward rematch, canelo will win easily and all the controversy will be deaded for good. canelo will be more comfortable, his hands got time to heal properly, his body will be more adjusted to the weight, and i'm sure they'll make adjustments to their camp. the whole fight will look just like the first 3 rounds last night. with canelo giving little g a boxing lesson. once again, little g's only hope will be that canelo's stamina fails him. which is the only time he was able to compete with canelo on an equal level.
......little g proved to be a warrior, but it's obvious his skill set is nowhere near canelo's.
Waiting 8 months for a rematch when he has the rematch clause is not the same as ward-kovalev.. ward had to comply with the clause or lose his belts...GGG will beat Canelo wider than the next time because he can actually fight hard without needing an oxygen tank. I've said this for years about Canelo. All those fast combinations doesn't mean shyt to me if you have no stamina. He's a tough kid but he's not that special in the ring.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
define "special"
jut because he's not SRL or Mayweather level he's still an elite fighter of our era, a very few would debate that
You won't get on every P4P lists by accident
every fighter on Canelo's level is "special" to me
Who else could claim even a draw against Golovkin? Jacobs and that's all. Who's the last one who wasn't hurt and KD by Golovkin? Some guy in 2008 when Golovkin was with Universum...
Just because he has an Achilles heel he can be special.
literal definition lol...thats not what i see when i see canelo fight..of course that can change if he gets in the mix with the other young prime fighters waiting for him..and jacobs didnt get a draw against GGG breh..he lost on all 3 cards officially
this was a post i made back in 2012 regarding canelo on the looming floyd fight..does that sound like something better, greater, or otherwise different from what is usual?..and this is still a thing now except now it takes him 4 rounds lol
reservoirdogs
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he's not better than the usual?
He's in top10 P4P
what's the usual then...?
I really don't get it. Thousands or ten thousands of active boxers in the world right now, how many of them are as good as Canelo?
he's different than the usual cause he's a better boxer than 99% of the active boxers including all the club fighters.
well thats your opinion breh...i have mine...i also dont think lomachenko is that special either but hes in the p4p 10 for most
GGG putting Canelo on his bike did that.
You've never seen Canelo move that much, that early in a fight....GGG made him move out of the threat he posed & Canelo overmoving early.
Its not a mystery why he gassed out faster than he ever did.
reservoirdogs
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it's okay breh I just had the problem with the definition, if special is merely better/different than usual then what would be the usual in this case...
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Canelo isnt a special fighter breh.
((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL
RIP MR. SMOKE
nah this was definitely something more to it than just that. he went from full energy to nothing from one moment to the next. but either way, I think he gotta add ariza to the mix. it seems like no trainers like him because he over imposes on their training, but that man knows how to condition boxers. look at maidana from floyd 1 to the rematch. he may not be able to get canelo to that level of stamina, but he could get him to the level he needs to be. canelo with even good stamina is unbeatable at middleweight.
if he don't hire a new S&C coach, I think he just needs to stay in the middle of the ring and be in little g's chest all night. when they were toe to toe, canelo had full control. little g would just shell up and be nervous to exchange. he's better off wasting energy doing damage on the inside than wasting energy with pointless movement. canelo visibly shook little g a few times early. little g was no match in close quarters. canelo just needs to do what he does best. no point trying to be floyd at this point in your career.
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if canelo isnt special than clearly little g isn't either. canelo just fought the middleweight king to a draw in his first fight there. if canelo isn't special, then no fighter in boxing is except ward.......and to be honest, I have no problem with ward being the standard for what's considered special in the sport.
reservoirdogs
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I can't do anything with this statement cause the world "special" just being thrown out there as some hazy phrase without a concrete meaning. If it indeed means better than usual then he's special cause he's better than the vast majority of boxers in the world
he's also p4p top 10 on just about every lists, for me that's special cause that means he's in the narrow elite in the job he does, he belongs to the top 0.something percent of active professional boxers.I think you and Pat rather define special by whether is he a future ATG material or not or something like that...
Btw he's still only 26-27 there's still room and time for improvement
if canelo isnt special than clearly little g isn't either. canelo just fought the middleweight king to a draw in his first fight there. if canelo isn't special, then no fighter in boxing is except ward.......and to be honest, I have no problem with ward being the standard for what's considered special in the sport.
I can't do anything with this statement cause the world "special" just being thrown out there as some hazy phrase without a concrete meaning. If it indeed means better than usual then he's special cause he's better than the vast majority of boxers in the world
I think you and Pat rather define special by whether is he a future ATG material or not or something like that...
Btw he's still only 26-27 there's still room and time for improvement
What does Canelo do that's special? What makes him different than plenty fighters we've seen before in the last decade alone?
You're talking about right now, but when most people say someone is "special" in Boxing...they are talking about overall (history wise comparison).
Andre Ward, Guillermo Rigondeaux, and Vasyl Lomachenko are the only special fighters today imo.