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early picks?

I slightly favor Ortiz for the upset
Ortiz is a counter puncher and while Wilder can box too he gets wild pretty often and then he's wide open. Of course he always has that straight right equalizer but I feel that Ortiz has overall the better technique and understanding of the game. If fighters like Washington or Szpilka could shine against Wilder in multiple rounds I have no reason to think Ortiz can't and as opposed to those guys he has a similar reach to Wilder in fact a little even longer so he can stay out of harms way while he throws more effectively and he also has a better understanding of the game, better power, higher ring IQ and probably better defense than those guys.

My pick isn't that confident given how Ortiz looked on his last 2 fights but if he can get himself in top for to this one I pick him with acknowledging that Wilder can land that straight right too and then it would be nigh-night to Ortiz.
 

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Jermell Charlo-Erickson Lubin tops 154-pound title tripleheader on Oct. 14 - The Ring

BY MIKE COPPINGER
A trio of intriguing junior middleweight title bouts is being planned for October 14 at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center.

Jermell Charlo owes a mandatory title shot against top prospect Erickson Lubin, and the 21-year-old is grabbing the opportunity with both hands rather than wait.

A deal has been struck to pit Charlo against Lubin for the WBC junior middleweight title, multiple sources told RingTV.com. But that’s only one of the 154-pound title fights that’s been completed.

Agreements also are in place to match Erislandy Lara and Terrell Gausha for the WBA belt, along with Jarrett Hurt against Austin Trout in an IBF title fight, a tripleheader that could land on Showtime; representatives for the network said they’re interested in televising the trio of title bouts.

Charlo (29-0, 14 knockouts) has established himself as one of the best young talents in the sport with his blend of power and athleticism. The 27-year-old scored a spectacular knockout of Charles Hatley in April. That title defense followed a scintillating KO of John Jackson last year.

Charlo, like Lubin, will be stepping way up in opposition with this assignment. Lubin is perhaps the only 154-pounder who can match Charlo’s mix of power and athleticism, even if the former top amateur has yet to face a top-10 fighter.

Lubin (18-0, 13 KOs) has, however, exhibited the type of special talent that drew the scorn of USA boxing when he spurned the 2012 Olympic Games to turn pro.

The Hammer punched his ticket to a mandatory title shot when he blew out Jorge Cota in March. Soon, we’ll find out if he’s ready for such a challenge at 21; if the talent truly matches the hype, we could soon see him on pound-for-pound lists.

Gausha (20-0, 9 KOs) is a man who actually did represent the U.S. in those Olympics, and he, too, will step up. He’ll face Lara, the longtime 154-pound beltholder whose curiously weak opposition of late has drawn wide criticism.

Lara (24-2-2, 14 KOs), a southpaw from Cuba, has feasted on the likes of Ishe Smith, Delvin Rodriguez, Jan Zaveck and even Yuri Foreman since a razor-thin decision defeat to Canelo Alvarez in 2014.

Gausha, while untested, at least represents a fresh face with proper pedigree to break the skid of weak opposition.

The other title fight featuring Al Haymon fighters: the previously reported bout between Hurd and Trout, one of two title fights that feature two RING-rated junior middleweights (Gausha is not ranked).

Charlo-Lubin is a fight worth circling on your calendar, a rare matchup between talented young boxer-punchers in their prime.

#AndTheNew...
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Damn that's a good ass triple header

All the 154 fighters getting that shine

N Im sure the one who doesn't fight N cant get tv time...will try N crash the presser N get the
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Damn that's a good ass triple header

All the 154 fighters getting that shine

N Im sure the one who doesn't fight N cant get tv time...will try N crash the presser N get the
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He might as well retire if this is going to be the results of his career:heh:


If he cant get the fights he wants, he needs to move up to 160 then:yeshrug:
 

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early picks?

I slightly favor Ortiz for the upset
Ortiz is a counter puncher and while Wilder can box too he gets wild pretty often and then he's wide open. Of course he always has that straight right equalizer but I feel that Ortiz has overall the better technique and understanding of the game. If fighters like Washington or Szpilka could shine against Wilder in multiple rounds I have no reason to think Ortiz can't and as opposed to those guys he has a similar reach to Wilder in fact a little even longer so he can stay out of harms way while he throws more effectively and he also has a better understanding of the game, better power, higher ring IQ and probably better defense than those guys.

My pick isn't that confident given how Ortiz looked on his last 2 fights but if he can get himself in top for to this one I pick him with acknowledging that Wilder can land that straight right too and then it would be nigh-night to Ortiz.
I would be shocked if Ortiz isn't the betting favorite over Wilder
 

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He might as well retire if this is going to be the results of his career:heh:


If he cant get the fights he wants, he needs to move up to 160 then:yeshrug:



I'd move up to 160 N :troll:big Charlo...be like "your punk ass lil sister wont fight me so now im at 160 for you nikka :birdman:"

If that don't work you still got Lemeuix, BJS, GGG, Canelo :ld:
 

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I'd move up to 160 N :troll:big Charlo...be like "your punk ass lil sister wont fight me so now im at 160 for you nikka :birdman:"

If that don't work you still got Lemeuix, BJS, GGG, Canelo :ld:


He better do something. I don't even have any ammo to defend against Andrade jokes at this point:dead:



And why he hasn't hired Al Haymon, but yet Jamel Herring can afford Al Haymon, is :mindblown: to me
 

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TOMORROW NIGHT (FRIDAY)


August 25

At Miami, Okla. (PBC on Fox Sports 1/Fox Deportes):


  • Sergiy Derevyanchenko vs. Tureano Johnson, 12 rounds, IBF middleweight eliminator

  • Immanuwel Aleem vs. Hugo Centeno Jr., 10 rounds, middleweights

  • Austin Dulay vs. Carlos Padilla, 8 rounds, lightweights

  • Demond Nicholson vs. Josue Obando, 8 rounds, super middleweights

  • Alejandro Guerrero vs. Antonio Castro, 4 rounds, lightweights

  • Charles Conwell vs. Andres Calixto Rey, 4 rounds, junior middleweights

  • Isaiah Steen vs. Carlos Ruiz, 6 rounds, super middleweights

  • McKenzie Morrison vs. Roberto White, 6 rounds, heavyweights
 

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So....all this time, Hearn was lying?:jbhmm:


Joshua vs Pulev hasnt been signed or agreed too, so Joshua could've faced Ortiz huh?:jbhmm:


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