Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

mr. smoke weed

Smoke Album Done......Wait n See #SmokeSquad
Resting in Peace
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
27,316
Reputation
3,810
Daps
52,057
Reppin
Chi
shyt is a joke. I swear these mofos would end up putting Rod Salka as number 1 before #sog. How the fukk is this up for discussion
e477a947bef7a7053095d1ab46ded6c3.png
It would have been better before kkkovalev 2, but the time is RIPE for Ward to do the Floyd esque heel turn. Even if he doesn't generate massive PPV #'s, he sells a lot of tickets and gear already. Infuriating the haters is what will get you PPV #'s. Ward's already doing a fine job as he is--an American Olympic Hero, p4p boxer the past 7 years, one of the better announcers on HBO............AND still that station shyt on him and picked the Russian over him in their follow up. Point is Ward is already getting Floyd style hate "Well he did __________ but he still didn't 'enter unrealistic bullshyt' if he embraced it, and did a full heel turn I think he could amplify his earnings and further cement his legacy in his lst 6-10 fights.

If he doesn't I'm cool with that too.
 

mr. smoke weed

Smoke Album Done......Wait n See #SmokeSquad
Resting in Peace
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
27,316
Reputation
3,810
Daps
52,057
Reppin
Chi



Guess I gotta get back to Vegas:abyoumad:


#AboutBillions

@Newzz tell AB he need to be hollering at the Amir Imam's, Adrian Granados's part 2 etc etc before asking for a run back with Mikey :scusthov: that's almost disrespectful.

Now if Easter Jr. wants to rumble, yaknow where to find #SmokeSquad smoking that #BronerPack, which is actually like regs :scusthov:

#SmokeSquad
 

The axe murderer

For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
40,274
Reputation
6,138
Daps
137,783
It would have been better before kkkovalev 2, but the time is RIPE for Ward to do the Floyd esque heel turn. Even if he doesn't generate massive PPV #'s, he sells a lot of tickets and gear already. Infuriating the haters is what will get you PPV #'s. Ward's already doing a fine job as he is--an American Olympic Hero, p4p boxer the past 7 years, one of the better announcers on HBO............AND still that station shyt on him and picked the Russian over him in their follow up. Point is Ward is already getting Floyd style hate "Well he did __________ but he still didn't 'enter unrealistic bullshyt' if he embraced it, and did a full heel turn I think he could amplify his earnings and further cement his legacy in his lst 6-10 fights.

If he doesn't I'm cool with that too.
I swear this shyt makes no sense. You got americans rooting against their own olympic gold medalist who is unbeaten and p4p. Fam I rarely see this happen in the UK or etc honestly I guess its because of :mjpls: reasons and america's history of it in boxing. I understand not wanting to root for floyd because of the out of ring shyt but this? Nah this is BS and we both know if kov won the first match with how close it was they wouldn't hesitate to put him #1 p4p and wouldn't give him shyt about a rematch:mjpls:

None of this shyt makes sense. He.getting this kinda heat for ridiculous reasons
 

mr. smoke weed

Smoke Album Done......Wait n See #SmokeSquad
Resting in Peace
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
27,316
Reputation
3,810
Daps
52,057
Reppin
Chi
I see Barrera taking notes from his fellow countryman :jawalrus:


yooooooooooooooooooooo

:mjlol::mjlol:

You can tell it's actually Barrera tweeting too, he didn't even know to tweet Krusher, he just @;d the first name that came up :wow:


#fukkEgosKlimas
 

Newzz

"The Truth" always prevails
Supporter
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
44,924
Reputation
7,470
Daps
104,633
@Newzz tell AB he need to be hollering at the Amir Imam's, Adrian Granados's part 2 etc etc before asking for a run back with Mikey :scusthov: that's almost disrespectful.

Now if Easter Jr. wants to rumble, yaknow where to find #SmokeSquad smoking that #BronerPack, which is actually like regs :scusthov:

#SmokeSquad

:heh:
 

seemorecizzy

Superstar
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
16,207
Reputation
2,271
Daps
52,077
Reppin
NULL
this isnt low standard ufc
a dude with10 fights cant be number 1 pound for pound:mjlol:
10 fights and one lost mind u:mjlol:

the hype train is ridiclous

solid fighter, but the agenda is clear
 

Newzz

"The Truth" always prevails
Supporter
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
44,924
Reputation
7,470
Daps
104,633
MARK "TOO SHARP" JOHNSON EXPLAINS HOW TO REBUILD ADRIEN BRONER; ANALYZES LOSS TO MIKEY GARCIA
By Percy Crawford | August 22, 2017
markjohnson.jpg



PC: You have always somewhat came to the defense...maybe not so much came to the defense of Adrien Broner in the past, but more or less understand him and where he comes from. That loss to Mikey Garcia was tough to watch. He offered very little.

MJ: I think Adrien came to fight. We saw a guy that we now know can make 140. I think that’s the best weight for him. I think AB didn’t fight the way that I think he should have fought. I think he wanted to show people that he wasn’t going to run, he wasn’t going to stalk, he wanted to stay in the pocket and fight him. That’s what he did. Fan-wise, a lot of people like that, but boxing-wise, I think the old AB would have beat Mikey easy.

PC: It doesn’t seem like Broner can really punch or facilitate any offense out of his defensive posture. Is that what you see or is there something else going on?

MJ: He used to be a guy that was a good counter puncher. He used to be a guy that could make a guy miss and make them pay. I just didn’t see the Adrien Broner that I know who should have gone in there and fought his fight. I think he came in there fighting for respect, which is something that he already has because he is a 4-time world champion. I think he wanted to show Mikey that he couldn’t hurt him and that was the wrong fight plan.

PC: Do you feel like we were watching a fighter that had no game plan or the wrong game plan?

MJ: I never had a game plan. We know what we were going to do. It’s up to a fighter to make me change. I’ll say one thing about this fight, people always ask me, “Mark, who was your hardest opponent?” I tell people, “Nacho Beristain! Nacho because he had Rafael Marquez who beat me and he had Jhonny Gonzalez who beat me.” So, Adrien Broner’s toughest opponent just may be Robert Garcia. I think we will see Adrien come back. I think there are a lot of fights out there for him at 140, I think there are a lot of fights out there for him at 147, but I like to see him at 140. They still have some names out there for him and Adrien still has a name. Despite his performance, he still went 12 rounds and he had his moments in the fight. Mikey had his moments as well, but I think Adrien will be back.

PC: How? How do you get his confidence back and get him in the talks again?

MJ: I think you take your time with him. You get him back in the gym slowly and get some other people around him who are positive people. You have to make sure he consistently does the things that he did for this camp to make this weight class. I wouldn’t come right back with something big. He is doing his About Billions promotional thing; maybe he will say it’s time for him to focus on that. There are a lot of questions that only he can answer, but the type of guy he is, he’s not walking out of the door like this. I can tell you that.

PC: Adrien Broner conquered 4 divisions at 23 years of age. He recently turned 28 years old. Could he have possibly reached his peak and we have seen the best of him already, because that happens sometimes when a guy achieves a lot early?

MJ: We may be seeing a little bit of that, but also something that was always told to me, “Hard work will beat talent because talent doesn’t work hard.” But this fight, this is something I can’t say because I know he worked hard. And not only did he make weight, but he looked like he was in great shape at the very first press conference that they had. So this is a fight that he really wanted and he really wanted to win. He thought this fight would be his coming out party. When things happen like that, you just have to go back to the drawing board. I think he is still a young fighter, only 28. I think he should take a little time off, do what’s right for him and his family, and then come back. One thing about a guy like Adrien, who loves the spotlight, is he will be back. I guarantee you.

PC: You have a soft spot for Adrien Broner. Why is that?

MJ: I’ll say this, I have a soft spot for anybody that has the talent to win 4 world titles in 4 different weight classes by the age that he done it in. sometimes things happen too fast and a guy can be too young. I was a guy that sat around and sat around and had to fight until I got those title shots. But I knew what it meant from then on because I had to work so hard and it took so long. I beat the #2 contender in 1993 and didn’t get a title shot until 1996, so I was already developed into this guy that knew what I had to do when I made it there. And maybe Adrien Broner was a guy that got his title, he was blowing through guys and when that happens, you may miss something one day. It may be running that one day; you may only be doing 10 rounds on the bag when you know you’re supposed to be doing 12. I like him. He’s a likeable guy. And when you have accomplished what he’s accomplished, you have to give a guy his props. It’s not as easy as these fans make it out to be to win 4 world titles in 4 different divisions. Now it’s up to him to determine how he wants to be respected and remembered and how his name will resonate in the sport. It’s all up to him and nobody else



MARK "TOO SHARP" JOHNSON EXPLAINS HOW TO REBUILD ADRIEN BRONER; ANALYZES LOSS TO MIKEY GARCIA || FIGHTHYPE.COM




#AboutBillions
 

THE MACHINE

night owl
Joined
May 27, 2012
Messages
26,877
Reputation
6,520
Daps
104,326
Reppin
P.G. County
this isnt low standard ufc
a dude with10 fights cant be number 1 pound for pound:mjlol:
10 fights and one lost mind u:mjlol:

the hype train is ridiclous

solid fighter, but the agenda is clear
Yeah man. I just cant understand Teddy with that pick.

Ward dismantled the boogeyman at 175 who was #3 lb4lb. Did it twice in fact and made him tap out the second fight. Not to mention his work in the super 6.
Ward is such an easy pick at number 1
 

Newzz

"The Truth" always prevails
Supporter
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
44,924
Reputation
7,470
Daps
104,633
Yeah man. I just cant understand Teddy with that pick.

Ward dismantled the boogeyman at 175 who was #3 lb4lb. Did it twice in fact and made him tap out the second fight. Not to mention his work in the super 6.
Ward is such an easy pick at number 1

Yep
 
Joined
Aug 15, 2014
Messages
6,430
Reputation
2,990
Daps
34,202
Yep.

3-0 (2 KOs) vs P4P competition:wow:

4-0 (2 KOs vs P4P competition (At one point Froch was Top 10 in rankings) :wow:

Nobody else on P4P can say they've done this. Ward is the only man in the Top 10 P4P right now that has beaten another recognized P4Per but unfortunately the media is giving him the Floyd treatment - 'oh well you've done this but have you [enter unrealistic requirement]'

And I know you and others are fans of Lomachenko but we all know the medias agenda here :mjpls: a man with 10 fights and a loss to Salido is being spoken of as #1 p4p? :mjgrin:

As far as Im concerned if Ward beats Stevenson (who imo is more of a danger than Kovalev) then nobody can talk shyt, he can retire right there :hubie:
and when I say Stevenson is more dangerous than Kovalev its because hes more unpredictable than him especially with that left hand.. but he is pushing 40 so we'll see
 

Newzz

"The Truth" always prevails
Supporter
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
44,924
Reputation
7,470
Daps
104,633
4-0 (2 KOs vs P4P competition (At one point Froch was Top 10 in rankings) :wow:

Nobody else on P4P can say they've done this. Ward is the only man in the Top 10 P4P right now that has beaten another recognized P4Per but unfortunately the media is giving him the Floyd treatment - 'oh well you've done this but have you [enter unrealistic requirement]'

And I know you and others are fans of Lomachenko but we all know the medias agenda here :mjpls: a man with 10 fights and a loss to Salido is being spoken of as #1 p4p? :mjgrin:

As far as Im concerned if Ward beats Stevenson (who imo is more of a danger than Kovalev) then nobody can talk shyt, he can retire right there :hubie:
and when I say Stevenson is more dangerous than Kovalev its because hes more unpredictable than him especially with that left hand.. but he is pushing 40 so we'll see



Yall keep focusing soley on Loma, but they are also trying to put Crawford as #1 over Ward as well..........and that aint happening on my watch either.:ufdup:



There's no fighter today better than Andre Ward. None. Not Loma, not Bud, not GGG, Canelo, Chocalito, none of em:demonic:


This is the Son of God era, everyone else can fight for spots 2-9:birdman:



#SOGGang
 

reservoirdogs

Superstar
Joined
Jun 1, 2016
Messages
12,701
Reputation
1,030
Daps
25,487
If Canelo would beat GGG what a year this would be for team Res :banderas:

Ward, Crawford, Canelo the three kings :smugbiden:

Also my other favs had great years so far... Spence, AJ, Thurman, Porter, etc...

I only wish Andrade would be more active and get a big fight already, Beterbiev back on track
 
Top