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Joe Joyce?
Joshua Buatsi?

Joyce is 31 years old so he's in the now or never phase already. HWs age slower and prime later than fighters in smaller divisions but it's still starting to be late for him if he doesn't move quick.



I'm surprised he was unsigned until now, he looked liked one of the best prospects at the Olympics
 

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I'm surprised he was unsigned until now, he looked liked one of the best prospects at the Olympics

it will be interesting how his career will shape

British boxing shaping up in general, they have only a few truly elite level fighters now (Joshua, Brook, Frampton, maybe Degale and Groves too and I guess we will see it soon if Callum Smith belongs here) but imo their next generation (the ones who are now prospects) looking real nice.

Ohara Davies, Josh Taylor, Jack Catterall, Zelfa Barrett, Lyon Woodstock Jr, Chris Eubank Jr, Conor Benn, Daniel Dubois, Athony Yarde, Anthony Fowler, Joshua Buatsi, Lawrence Okolie...

lots of exciting prospects
 

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Thurman is not small, he's 5'8 1/2 (5'9 basically)

I've seen Spence up close in person, and he's the same height as me. Which is 5'9 1/2 (5'10 basically).

So Spence only has an inch on Thurman, which in the grand scheme of things means nothing

I don't know if he's playing a mental game or if he's seriously believes that. But he's in for a rude awakening if he does. Thurman more than held his own against Porter who's probably the strongest in the division
 

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I don't know if he's playing a mental game or if he's seriously believes that. But he's in for a rude awakening if he does. Thurman more than held his own against Porter who's probably the strongest in the division

Thurman wasn't supposed to "hold his own" vs Porter....he was supposed to show that Porter wasn't on his level, which he couldnt do, and barely escaped with a W over Porter. Spence is much better than Shawn Porter:mjpls:



Spence beats Thurman clearly, just like he did Brook. Thurman is going to be on his bike early and often with Spence, and is going to lose via KO. Spence KO's don't stop once the "competition increases":mjpls:




Yall did this same thing with Brook, acting as if Spence isn't the bigger and more technically proficient fighter, so yall are going to get the same results.....another doubter who's going to get that work once he's finally ready to face #TheTruth :mjpls:



#Thur-MANDOWN
#TruthSeekers



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I don't know if he's playing a mental game or if he's seriously believes that. But he's in for a rude awakening if he does. Thurman more than held his own against Porter who's probably the strongest in the division
Nah, Brook was pushing Porter around easily in the clinches, I wouldn't call him the strongest at all.
 

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Thurman wasn't supposed to "hold his own" vs Porter....he was supposed to show that Porter wasn't on his level, which he couldnt do, and barely escaped with a W over Porter. Spence is much better than Shawn Porter:mjpls:



Spence beats Thurman clearly, just like he did Brook. Thurman is going to be on his bike early and often with Spence, and is going to lose via KO. Spence KO's don't stop once the "competition increases":mjpls:




Yall did this same thing with Brook, acting as if Spence isn't the bigger and more technically proficient fighter, so yall are going to get the same results.....another doubter who's going to get that work once he's finally ready to face #TheTruth :mjpls:



#Thur-MANDOWN
#TruthSeekers



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I'm talking more than held his own as far as not getting bullied :mjpls: He fought fire with fire (which was stupid) but it made for an entertaining fight. Let's be real bruh, the fight was competitive but that not close. Thurman won pretty clean. And about Spence, you better worry about your mans cleaning up his D. He's gonna get hit with shyt he's never felt before & I'm not as confident as you as to how he'll react or if he can even take it. Getting hit from Kell Brook & Keith Thurman are two totally different beasts & you know it. All of these other fighters have talked about Thurman's power before getting in the ring & their ring actions & interviews tell a completely different story post fight. That Winky turtle defense won't work famo. He's gonna have to add or show more wrinkles in his game.
 

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I dnt see how showing a Canelo defensive highlight against a weight drained beyond shot Angulo will make you think he can do the same thing with GGG. If he try that pretty shyt with GGG he will be slumped.
That shyt ain't even expressive :mjlol:
 

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I'm talking more than held his own as far as not getting bullied :mjpls: He fought fire with fire (which was stupid) but it made for an entertaining fight. Let's be real bruh, the fight was competitive but that not close.

It was close.


I scored it for Porter, Thurman was booed by the fans when the cards were announced, Porter landed more punches, and all 3 judges had it 7-5 for Thurman....that's a close fight breh:hubie:



Thurman won pretty clean.

You're a Thurman fan....of course you think that. It was super close. Thurman did not prove that he wasn't slightly better than Porter at all. Brook's win over Porter was clearer than Thurman's win.


And about Spence, you better worry about your mans cleaning up his D. He's gonna get hit with shyt he's never felt before & I'm not as confident as you as to how he'll react or if he can even take it.

I've heard this from you before:


That Lartey fight might be the reason Spence hasn't been in the ring with anyone that has any real power.
What we know about Brook is that he has good timing & is a sharp/accurate puncher. Unless Spence becomes a defensive wizard & has an amazing leap in his defensive skills come fight night then he's gonna be there to get countered & tagged often. How his chin responds will be answered in this fight.
He's fortunate Lartey was the only guy he fought with some semblance of any kind of power & he was lucky there.
I hear what you're saying but have you noticed since the Lartey fight he's fought fighters with nonexistent power? When I say he gets touched consistently I'm not talking about normal shots. He gets clipped by unnecessary shots every fight. If his opponents had power he'd be in trouble like the Lartey fight. Spence has fought one way pretty much his entire career. That seek & destroy style of wearing the opponent out. Maybe he hasn't had to show any other wrinkles in his game because of his opponents but I think he's ill prepared going into a fight with a vet like Brook
The problem is Spence has been touted as "elite" & the man to beat when he hasn't even faced anyone with any hope of challenging him. And when he fought someone with decent strength & skills he got stunned. If he beats Brook then he's elite.
Brook's one good win obliterates anything Spence has ever done as a pro fam. No one ever said Brook is "super elite" but he's one of the best in the division. You can't just think thrust Spence in that same mix based on his potential.
I'm not righting him off bro. I'm just not ready to anoint dude & give him the crown off potential. I'm just being realistic in pointing out his flaws. I've been saying if he beats Brook he's more than legit.




What happened?:jbhmm:



You gave all that analysis as to why Spence wasn't The Truth, how he wouldn't be able to beat Shook, how his chin responds will be answered vs Shook, if his opponent had power...he'd be in trouble (Shook has power, what happened?:mjpls: ), he was ill prepared for Brook, Brook's one win over Porter was > anything Spence has done as a pro, we couldn't say Spence was elite (even though our Boxing eyes weren't lying to us, yours did to you:mjpls:).


Spence did exactly what we told you he was going to do....destroy Kell Brook. You, on the other hand, said you were going to give Spence his props for doing what you said he couldn't, but now you pulling back out the same stance you repeated ad nauseam of how Spence aint really #TheTruth, regardless of the fact Spence proved you totally wrong:wow:



So, unfortunately for you, you're gonna have to stand in the mirror, face #TheTruth again, and have another fighter you're claiming is better than Spence end up losing via KO:hubie:








Getting hit from Kell Brook & Keith Thurman are two totally different beasts & you know it.

No we don't know this. Not at all. They haven't even faced the same opponent except Porter.


All of these other fighters have talked about Thurman's power before getting in the ring & their ring actions & interviews tell a completely different story post fight.

Speaking of Porter, lets see what he says about their power comparision:sas1:





He just put them on the same level, so to say they are 2 totally different beasts would be incorrect:sas2:



That Winky turtle defense won't work famo. He's gonna have to add or show more wrinkles in his game.


:russell: we heard this all before from you breh....how did that turn out last time for you?:hubie:





#TruthSeekers
 
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Broner: I Don't Get Enough Respect; I'm the One Kids Wanna Be Now


By Keith Idec

Adrien Broner mostly has been commended for his decision to fight Mike Garcia next.

Garcia has to move up in weight, from 135 pounds to 140, to make it happen. A textbook technician with power, Garcia still is a dangerous opponent for Broner (33-2, 24 KOs), who seems better suited to fight at junior welterweight (140 pounds) than welterweight (147).

The praise for accepting Garcia aside, Broner believes he doesn’t get enough credit for going up against Adrian Granados in his last fight.

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Broner beat Granados (18-5-2, 12 KOs), a formidable former sparring partner, by split decision in a tough, 10-round welterweight fight February 18 in Cincinnati. The 27-year-old Broner boxed the rugged Granados just two fights after Granados stopped previously unbeaten 140-pound contender Amir Imam (20-1, 17 KOs) in the eighth round in November 2015.

“With all due respect to every reporter out there,” Broner said during a recent conference call, “I just feel I don’t get as much respect as I should because my last fight, the guy that I fought, he was a guy that a lot of people skipped past. And I’m like, ‘You know what? I’m gonna fight him because everybody feels like I’m not taking tough fights.’ So I knew he was tough, and I fought him and I beat him. And now I’m taking another tough fight.”

The Cincinnati native, one of the most polarizing people in boxing, doesn’t think people should be surprised he agreed to fight the hard-hitting Garcia (36-0, 30 KOs). Before boxing Granados, the previous 3½ years for Broner included facing former IBF welterweight champion Shawn Porter, ex-WBA super lightweight champ Khabib Allakhverdiev, Argentine knockout artist Marcos Maidana, and moving up two divisions, from lightweight to welterweight, to oppose Paulie Malignaggi.

The former four-division champion doesn’t sense that he is appreciated enough overall by boxing reporters and fans, particularly for what he has accomplished during the past four years.

“I just feel like they don’t put enough respect on my name,” Broner said. “All of the accomplishments I’ve accomplished in this game – I’m the one the kids wanna be now. Because coming up, everybody wanted to be like Floyd that’s my age. Now, coming up all the kids wanna be like Adrien Broner. So it’s OK, though. This fight is just to show people I’m still here and I’ve still got what it takes to take over the game of boxing after Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao [retire].”



The embattled Broner, who has had numerous brushes with the law, recognizes that he’ll take criticism for making such statements. His detractors don’t faze him, though.

“I love it. I love it,” Broner said. “I’ve faced adversity so many times in this game. Sometimes I fell short, but I got right back up and I kept fighting.”

- See more at: Broner: I Don't Get Enough Respect; I'm the One Kids Wanna Be Now - Boxing News
 

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Makes sense why he was caping for Troy King, after looking over these receipts he sounds just like him :russ:

It was close.


I scored it for Porter, Thurman was booed by the fans when the cards were announced, Porter landed more punches, and all 3 judges had it 7-5 for Thurman....that's a close fight breh:hubie:





You're a Thurman fan....of course you think that. It was super close. Thurman did not prove that he wasn't slightly better than Porter at all. Brook's win over Porter was clearer than Thurman's win.




I've heard this from you before:













What happened?:jbhmm:



You gave all that analysis as to why Spence wasn't The Truth, how he wouldn't be able to beat Shook, how his chin responds will be answered vs Shook, if his opponent had power...he'd be in trouble (Shook has power, what happened?:mjpls: ), he was ill prepared for Brook, Brook's one win over Porter was > anything Spence has done as a pro, we couldn't say Spence was elite (even though our Boxing eyes weren't lying to us, yours did to you:mjpls:).


Spence did exactly what we told you he was going to do....destroy Kell Brook. You, on the other hand, said you were going to give Spence his props for doing what you said he couldn't, but now you pulling back out the same stance you repeated ad nauseam of how Spence aint really #TheTruth, regardless of the fact Spence proved you totally wrong:wow:



So, unfortunately for you, you're gonna have to stand in the mirror, face #TheTruth again, and have another fighter you're claiming is better than Spence end up losing via KO:hubie:










No we don't know this. Not at all. They haven't even faced the same opponent except Porter.




Speaking of Porter, lets see what he says about their power comparision:sas1:





He just put them on the same level, so to say they are 2 totally different beasts would be incorrect:sas2:






:russell: we heard this all before from you breh....how did that turn out last time for you?:hubie:





#TruthSeekers
 

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It was close.


I scored it for Porter, Thurman was booed by the fans when the cards were announced, Porter landed more punches, and all 3 judges had it 7-5 for Thurman....that's a close fight breh:hubie:





You're a Thurman fan....of course you think that. It was super close. Thurman did not prove that he wasn't slightly better than Porter at all. Brook's win over Porter was clearer than Thurman's win.




I've heard this from you before:













What happened?:jbhmm:



You gave all that analysis as to why Spence wasn't The Truth, how he wouldn't be able to beat Shook, how his chin responds will be answered vs Shook, if his opponent had power...he'd be in trouble (Shook has power, what happened?:mjpls: ), he was ill prepared for Brook, Brook's one win over Porter was > anything Spence has done as a pro, we couldn't say Spence was elite (even though our Boxing eyes weren't lying to us, yours did to you:mjpls:).


Spence did exactly what we told you he was going to do....destroy Kell Brook. You, on the other hand, said you were going to give Spence his props for doing what you said he couldn't, but now you pulling back out the same stance you repeated ad nauseam of how Spence aint really #TheTruth, regardless of the fact Spence proved you totally wrong:wow:



So, unfortunately for you, you're gonna have to stand in the mirror, face #TheTruth again, and have another fighter you're claiming is better than Spence end up losing via KO:hubie:










No we don't know this. Not at all. They haven't even faced the same opponent except Porter.




Speaking of Porter, lets see what he says about their power comparision:sas1:





He just put them on the same level, so to say they are 2 totally different beasts would be incorrect:sas2:






:russell: we heard this all before from you breh....how did that turn out last time for you?:hubie:





#TruthSeekers


And you're a Porter fan nikka so :lolbron: So you're using the crowd who's filled with casuals as your base. Ok nikka you win lol. Porter lost by at least 3 rounds but I'll let you slide because that's your dude. The difference between you & me is I can call fights down the middle for the most part even though I might favor a fighter or style more. You're the same dude that had Robert Easter beating Commey in a fight where Commey should've gotten the nod :sas2: And you know I like Easter. You & others are trying to anoint Spence as the heir apparent before he even fought anyone. I wouldn't say Spence destroyed Brook either. He stopped him in a competitive fight where he started pulling away. I gave Spence his props & said he was elite. It doesn't take away from the fact he has glaring faults at the elite level & will run into major issues when someone exploits them. I think Thurman's style will give him fits & with Spence's faults I think he's gonna lose. It has nothing to do with backtracking or anything else you're making up
 
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