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I think it's pretty much a consensus that the 70's is the GOAT followed by the 90's...but i'd put the 80's slightly above the 90's overall...but i can see an argument going either way

Prime Tyson
Prime Holmes (Early 80's)
Prime Holyfield
Tim Witherspoon
Tony Tucker
Razor Ruddock
Michael Spinks
Buster Douglas
Pinklon Thomas
Michael Dokes
Tony Tubbs
Carl Williams

Over

Prime Lennox
Prime Bowe
Past prime Holy
Past prime Tyson
Ancient Foreman
Ancient Holmes
Michael Moorer
David Tua
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ray Mercer
Tommy Morrison
Oliver McCall
Andrew Golota

It's close though...

Food for thought, take note on how old Heavies from the 70's were able to beat top heavies in the 90's like Moorer & Mercer...Tim Witherspoon gave Mercer that work at age 41 and got robbed. Tony Tubbs arguably beat Bowe....46 year old Holmes almost beat McCall

While those 70's top contenders like Norton, Shavers, Lyle, Young...were getting destroyed by 80's Heavies
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Anthony Joshua is set to face Wladimir Klitschko in a rematch, says promoter Eddie Hearn
By Richard Damerell
Last Updated: 05/06/17 5:58pm
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Promoter Eddie Hearn said he expects Anthony Joshua’s next fight to be a rematch with Wladimir Klitschko
Anthony Joshua's proposed rematch with Wladimir Klitschko "is happening" in his next fight, says promoter Eddie Hearn.

Joshua is set to face Klitschko for a second time after his thrilling victory at Wembley stadium in April, with a number of venues being considered to stage the heavyweight world title fight in November or December.

Klitschko will meet manager Bernd Boente this week and is expected to agree another fight with Joshua, who holds the WBA 'super' and IBF titles.



The situation is the fight is happening unless we are told otherwise by Bernd Boente and Wladimir Klitschko, who have a meeting this week.
Eddie Hearn

Hearn told Sky Sports: "I feel like it's Wladimir Klitschko. People keep saying is there a deadline? The situation is the fight is happening unless we are told otherwise by Bernd Boente and Wladimir Klitschko, who have a meeting this week.

"So many offers this week - Nigeria, Dubai, America, and also we have the opportunity of Cardiff here in the UK.

"Financially, Cardiff's not the best choice, but also at the same time, if it's not broke don't fix it, and we have that mentality with 'AJ' moving forward.

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Highlights from Joshua's epic victory over Klitschko at Wembley
"Over the next two weeks we are going to look at all those opportunities and sift out the ones that are real and the ones that make sense, and look at where the fight will be. But in our minds moving forward, it's Wladimir Klitschko next."

Kubrat Pulez remains the mandatory challenger for Joshua's IBF belt and Hearn expects a decision from the governing body this week about whether a rematch with Klitschko can take place first.

The IBF will make ruling on Joshua's mandatory title defence against Kubrat Pulev
"I think we will get a full decision on that this week," said Hearn. "We are confident that a fight of that magnitude, with the guarantee of course Pulev fighting next.

"We can't not fight Pulev, he's not going to go away and we're not looking to shirk that fight.

"If we don't fight Klitschko, the Pulev fight will 100 per cent be next. If we do fight Klitschko, the Pulev fight will 100 per cent be next after that. I think the IBF know that."
 

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And you're a Porter fan nikka so :lolbron: So you're using the crowd who's filled with casuals as your base. Ok nikka you win lol. Porter lost by at least 3 rounds but I'll let you slide because that's your dude.


So, you're gonna dismiss the fact that the judges all had it 7-5 for Thurman....which is the very definition of a close fight....and only address the fact I said the crowd booed him?:patrice:


Come on breh, explain to me how Porter lost by at least 3 rounds, which is impossible first of all:heh:, but the fact Porter outlanded him and all 3 judges had Thurman winning 7-5, to you it wasnt a close fight at all?:jbhmm:






The difference between you & me is I can call fights down the middle for the most part even though I might favor a fighter or style more.

:mjlol: Obviously not if you said Porter lost by at least 3 rounds to Thurman:dead:


You're the same dude that had Robert Easter beating Commey in a fight where Commey should've gotten the nod :sas2:


Really?:jbhmm:



I scored it for Commey 114-113
Easter- 1,4,5,6,7,12
Commey - 2,3,8-11

10-8 round in 8th but there were at least 4 close rounds that could've went either way.


So, there were 4 rounds that could've went either way....but you're saying my card was wrong for having Easter winning a fight YOU only had Commey winning by 1 point in.


Then, let's address that 1 point edge you gave: The round that gave Commey the win on your card (the 8th) was because of a false KD that never occurred, being that Easter never actually touched the canvas, so it should've been a 10-9 round on your card:sas1:


Also, a quick count shows that you gave Easter 6 rounds (1, 4, 5, 6, 7, & 12) then gave Commey 6 rounds (2, 3, 8, 9, 10, & 11)...so what are you talking about breh? Without a false KD, you had the fight a draw....and you're saying there are 4 rounds which are toss up's which means you can see the fight going to either fighter since you only had it 114-113.:sas2:





And you know I like Easter. You & others are trying to anoint Spence as the heir apparent before he even fought anyone.

Were we right in our perception of Spence, or were you?:sas1:



We said Spence was elite way before a fight with Brook, you claimed if he beat Brook then he'd be elite, bc you didn't think he was able too....................who was right all along?:sas2:




I wouldn't say Spence destroyed Brook either. He stopped him in a competitive fight where he started pulling away.

He literally broke bones in that man's face and made him bow down and submit to him. If that's not destruction, what is it?:dwillhuh:



I gave Spence his props & said he was elite.

Congratulations.....you finally found out what we knew all along:ld:



It doesn't take away from the fact he has glaring faults at the elite level & will run into major issues when someone exploits them.

You said Brook would do it. He failed. Now, you're saying the same things, again, except you're just exchanging Shook's name with Run Time's.:heh:


I think Thurman's style will give him fits & with Spence's faults I think he's gonna lose. It has nothing to do with backtracking or anything else you're making up


I didn't make up anything breh, I just posted the receipts.....receipts never lie, because they're your own words. We even had the Boxing Gawd @Yuzo swoop down from the mountains to drop gifs and explanations as to why Spence was going to beat Brook to you, but you didn't care bc you were fully convinced that Spence would lose to Brook:yeshrug:


Funny thing is Spence doesn't even move his head. As Teddy Atlas has said he'll fuk around & someone will move it for him :lolbron:
spence doesnt move his head a lot but he does have a good step back. guys with good step backs tend to maintain front foot pressure to stay ready to press down and push off and step back. he may not move his head a lot but he does stay ready to step back.

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spence comes in carefully not recklessly. when he throws a jab he throws it to feel you out. he is trying to read your reactions to know when to add on more punches to the jab or when to step back. spence can counter but he is not really a counter puncher. he takes turns. my turn. your turn.

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spence uses his jab to feel you out and read you to know when to add on more punches and take his turn and he uses his step back when you try to take your turn. its basic. it works. brook uses his jab to hang you out on the end of his reach where he can maintain the range he needs to have to steal you with right hands, hit you with pull counters, and step back and hit you with check hooks.

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spence comes in carefully not recklessly and wont run into a lot of counters but just a threat of being countered can make spence a lot more tentative coming in. brook throws one jab every few seconds. spence is going to try to mount attacks during the dead gaps in between brook jabs. brook has to steal right hands and try to force spence to step back and reset when he is trying to take turns during his dead gaps. a mixture of counter punching and stealing can make spence tentative and uncertain and free up brook to coast with the jab.


Doesn't matter what he does in training bruh. I've seen just about all of his fights & he doesn't. He gets touched EVERY fight. He's fortunate Lartey was the only guy he fought with some semblance of any kind of power & he was lucky there.
so does brook. but spence hits harder. when spence mounts attacks during brook dead gaps brook cant just cover up or be passive. spence can sense when you are just trying to cover up. when you get passive he gets vicious. when spence jabs and can sense nothing is coming back he adds on more punches.

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when spence adds on more punches to his jabs he tends to go down to the body and wrap up his combos with clean up hooks around your elbow. he likes to go down to the body but he really likes to hit you everywhere. arms. hips. up. down. he likes to make a lot of contact.

brook has to grab spence whenever he comes in to prevent big combos from racking up to avoid a lot of damage from accruing and compounding from round to round and to shut down a big chunk of where spence generates a lot of workrate.

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brook cant be stationary. spence likes to set his feet. a guy who can stick and move has a big advantage over a guy who has to set his feet to punch. the guy who can stick and move can maintain a nice and steady workrate but the guy who has to set his feet cant. when you stick and move on a guy who has to set his feet to punch you do two things. you bring up your workrate. you bring down his. brook is a mover but he is not a pure mover. he has a tendency to transition into a boxer puncher and he has a nasty habit of backing up into the ropes and into corners. he cant back up into the ropes and into corners or spence is going to take care of business.

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brook is a really cute boxer and he can do a lot of really cute things. but he is not a hard guy to get to and i think spence gets to brook.

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I agree with soome of your assessment fam but I noticed you didn't put up any clips of Brook turning southpaw which he does from time to time. I think at some point during this fight he'll so that to vary up his attack & throw Spence off.




So, it seems like you're once again walking the same path of denial for a Thurman/Spence altercation, which is fine....do you:hubie:



Just be ready to face #TheTruth after this fight ends with another man down.....Thur-MAN DOWN:smugbiden:




#TruthSeekers



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Food for thought, take note on how old Heavies from the 70's were able to beat top heavies in the 90's like Moorer & Mercer...Tim Witherspoon gave Mercer that work at age 41 and got robbed. Tony Tubbs arguably beat Bowe....46 year old Holmes almost beat McCall

While those 70's top contenders like Norton, Shavers, Lyle, Young...were getting destroyed by 80's Heavies

this is an excellent point...i gotta rep..you had the likes of Joe Frazier got a gift majority draw against a complete bum which he should have lost to..but his final fight had a better outcome than lets say Ali or Norton..Jerry Quarry was struggling with bums..if you ever read the story on his last professional victory in 83 you'd be like damn..shavers chin and stamina issues really got bad in the 80s
 

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Im thinking of just going out there just to be in the city.

Do they show the fights for free in the casinos?

No..they have like closed circuit locations where you can pay to watch the fight there

If you gonna travel to Vegas for yo fighter in the biggest fight in boxing, you gotta go breh. Buy you the cheapest ticket and enjoy, look to move down into open seats --which shouldn't be too many but shyt happens. At least you're there.
 

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If you gonna travel to Vegas for yo fighter in the biggest fight in boxing, you gotta go breh. Buy you the cheapest ticket and enjoy, look to move down into open seats --which shouldn't be too many but shyt happens. At least you're there.
agreed...i couldnt go to a city of a live fight just to see it a TV location near as a first choice
 
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