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SuikodenII said:
Random...... Match-ups at Welterweight (147) in 2017 I'd like to see based on top-tiers... because I like to be wrong :birdman:

...and no, they're not ranked individually, just tier'd...

(Of course Thurman/Garcia can change things but until then...)

A: Kell Brook (IBF), Keith Thurman (WBA), Errol Spence Jr

B: Manny Pacquiao (WBO), Timothy Bradley Jr, Danny Garcia (WBC)

C: Felix Diaz, Jeff Horn, Sam Eggington, Sammy Vasquez

D: Shawn Porter, David Avanesyan, Jose Benavidez, Konstantin Ponomarev, David Ocampo, Frankie Gomez, Charles Manyuchi, Bradley Skeete, Dmitry Mikhaylenko, Aslanbek Kozaev, Alan Sanchez

F: Jessie Vargas, Amir Khan, "Mean Machine" E.K., Pablo Cesar Cano, Brandon Rios, Chris van Heerden, Brad Solomon, Omar Figueroa Jr, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto, Miguel Vazquez, Taras Shelestyuk, Sadam Ali, Ray Robinson, Humberto Soto

G-Z: Not top-tier so, don't know nor care
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How is Porter who actually arguably beat Thurman and lost on a rather close fight against Brook belong to D tier below guys like Eggington, Horn or Sammy Vasquez?
Also why Bradley and Pac are not A tier while Brook, Thurman and Spence are?

also I doN't like Khan but putting him a tier below Kozaev, ALan Sanchez or Bradley Skeete is kinda harsh :yeshrug:
 
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Dan Rafael chat wrap 12/16:

- JCC is a dangerous fight for Canelo.
- Agrees that Canelo fighting at 165, pre a GGG fight makes no sense. He asked Eric Gomez this and he had no answer.
- Would expect Canelo vs. JCC to do over 500k PPV's.
- If Canelo vs. GGG does not get made blame both fighters.
- GGG wants a percentage of the revenue and that is the current sticking point in Canelo negotiations. Gomez is saying they have offered GGG $15 million flat. If you think GGG should accept $15 million over a percentage split, you don't know the boxing business.
- What does he think is fair for GGG-Canelo? Split percentage: 65-35.
- Would he have a problem if GGG refused a Canelo fight with all aspects agreed to and a 157 lb catchweight? Yes, but Canelo and ODH have both said 160 is where the fight will take place.
- Stiverne vs. Povetkin will not be on US TV.
- Usyk is in line for a good year.
- Hopkins by decision.
- Believes that Hopkins will officially retire for good after this fight.
- Schaefer says he would do business with ODH and would like to do Charlo vs. Canelo, although doubtful it happens. Unlikely ODH will want to work with Schaefer.
- Would love to see Charlo vs. Andrade, but Andrade is tied up for a bit with Culcay, and Charlo will likely move up to MW.
- Doubtful Wilder vs. Parker happens in the first half of 2017.
- Wilder says he will be back in February on Showtime.
- Showtime had the better fights last weekend, but got lower ratings. Thought their marketing could have been better.
- A GGG vs. Jacobs PPV could have Chocolatito-Cuadras 2 as an undercard.
- Chances GGG vs. Jacobs gets finalized? Over 50%.
- The Lebedev vs. Gassiev title nonsense was pure WBA corruption.
- Oscar Valdez is ready to do damage at the top of the division.
- Valdez vs. Lomacheno? No chance in 2017.
- Neither Hopkins or Nazim Richardson will say why they arent working together for this fight.
- Jarrell Miller is having a dispute with his promoter.
- Garcia vs. Thurman will be at Barclays.
- If Haye is on his game he should easily beat Bellow.
- Broner vs. Granados likely will either be in Cincinnati or DC.
- Beltran's performance was a good fight against an untested opponent. It doesn't mean he is having a career resurgence.
- Matthysse is supposed to be back potentially in March.
- Hopkins will walk out to Sinatra's "My Way".
- Hopkins biggest upset? Trinidad.
- Roc Nation's time as a boxing promoter has not gone as they had hoped. Believes that RN would be far more successful if Jay-Z helped promote.
- Pernell Whitaker vs. JMM at 140? Whitaker easily.
- Rumors that 2017 will be HBO's last year showing boxing? Nonsense.
- Cotto vs. Kirkland is not a bad fight, just bad as a PPV.
- Does not believe Andre Ward will retire.
- Lomachenko vs. Salido is being discussed. Salido doesn't have a better option financially, Lomachenko wants it, and HBO is willing to put it on.
- Would love to see Lomachenko vs. Mikey Garcia, but do not see it happening.
- Chisora vs. Whyte was one of the best HW fights in a long time.
- Crawford's sentence seemed excessive.
- Adonis Stevenson is supposed to fight the Alvarez-Bute winner, but we will see if he does it.
- Egidijus Kavaliauskas is a guy to keep your eye on.
- Ricardo Lopez vs. Chocolatito? Lopez.
- Now that Haymon and Arum supposedly can work together, they should make Valdez vs. Mares.
- Not the best look for Charlo after the fight, but if he wants to turn heel, that is fine. Agrees that the reaction to Charlo after the fight is largely overblown.
- Today was not the first time he has heard of a fighter passing out because of dehydration before the fight.
- Quillin told him he will fight in 2017.
 
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