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Newzz said:
No he didn't breh...he had to strip naked to make weight vs Liam Smith. In what world is that making weight easy? :dwillhuh:

That's what you think? His stamina was great....but we basing it upon him vs Liam Smith? Like...that's not even a test for Canelo. Khan won more rounds convincingly than Liam Smith did vs Canelo. Im not using him vs Smith as a gauge of him at 154 now, bc they only went 7 rounds. I'd hope a fighter doesn't gas out within 7 rounds breh.:manny:


He's moving up solely bc of GGG though?:heh:
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canelo-smith only went 7 rounds:dahell::dahell::dahell:


it went damn near a full 9 and canelo showed no slow down. he averaged 50 punches thrown a round which is well higher than his normal average. that's not a sign of a fighter who's draining himself to make weight.


canelo said only days before the smith fight, little g would have to move down if he wanted the fight. like I said...he caved in and decided to give little g what he wanted. to me it's a dumb decision cause canelo holds all the cards right now. but he's doing it anyway. possibly throwing away crazy millions in potential fights with danny garcia, thurman, brook, and spence at 154. just to move up to 160 prematurely and fight this clown who wants to cry about the money now. and none of that matters. cause your comment about them both being at 100% at 160 holds no weight. you've never seen canelo at 160. right now, his 100% is at 154 and that's all there is to it.
 
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((ReFleX)) said:
canelo-smith only went 7 rounds:dahell::dahell::dahell:


it went damn near a full 9 and canelo showed no slow down. he averaged 50 punches thrown a round which is well higher than his normal average. that's not a sign of a fighter who's draining himself to make weight.


canelo said only days before the smith fight, little g would have to move down if he wanted the fight. like I said...he caved in and decided to give little g what he wanted. to me it's a dumb decision cause canelo holds all the cards right now. but he's doing it anyway. possibly throwing away crazy millions in potential fights with danny garcia, thurman, brook, and spence at 154. just to move up to 160 prematurely and fight this clown who wants to cry about the money now. and none of that matters. cause your comment about them both being at 100% at 160 holds no weight. you've never seen canelo at 160. right now, his 100% is at 154 and that's all there is to it.
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I meant to say 9, but again, how did Canelo easily make 154...when he had to strip naked to do so?:dahell:

How does that even make sense? :what:
 
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Newzz said:
I meant to say 9, but again, how did Canelo easily make 154...when he had to strip naked to do so?:dahell:

How does that even make sense? :what:
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you keep judging canelo's weight issues on him taking off his underwear:what:



judge it on his performance:what:



and you meant to say 9?:what:....so that's not good enough to gauge whether a fighter's stamina looked better or not:what:....so what's the minimum for you?....12?:what:



he looked fresher, quicker, stronger, and sharper than ever. absolutely no sign of being drained. you stay trying to change the narrative of the argument. the main point is that little g ducked canelo FIRST. and there's really no way to dispute that. he said he would fight ANYBODY 154 to 168. canelo tells him to come down and he refused...that's a DUCK. but conveniently you wanna keep ignoring that:sas1:.....and once again. we've never seen canelo at 160. at this moment. his 100% best is at 154. end of story. there's really nothing you can say to dispute that.
 
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((ReFleX)) said:
you keep judging canelo's weight issues on him taking off his underwear:what:



judge it on his performance:what:
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You can't perform unless you make weight first...and Canelo barely made 154 in September, so why did you say he easily makes it?



and you meant to say 9?:what:....so that's not good enough to gauge whether a fighter's stamina looked better or not:what:....so what's the minimum for you?....12?:what:
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Vs an opponent like Liam Smith? Why would I think he's gonna gas out from Liam Smith? Liam Smith can't do anything to bother Canelo, so there was no energy expound in order to gas out like it was vs Floyd, Lara, & even Cotto to an extent.

Liam Smith barely put up a fight, it was a showcase fight...who gasses out in showcase fights that only go 9?



he looked fresher, quicker, stronger, and sharper than ever. absolutely no sign of being drained.
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I have to consider the opposition


you stay trying to change the narrative of the argument.
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I'm responding to the bolded or quoted statements you make.


the main point is that little g ducked canelo FIRST. and there's really no way to dispute that. he said he would fight ANYBODY 154 to 168. canelo tells him to come down and he refused...that's a DUCK. but conveniently you wanna keep ignoring that:sas1:
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No I don't...I addressed it when that was the reality. However, since November 2015....a whole year ago...Canelo has been ducking GGG. However, you won't acknowledge THAT.

Currently, GGG literally bullied Canelo into giving up the WBC Middleweight Championship and run down to another division rather than face his mandatory for the belt....how this is NOT a blatant duck to you is crazy to me.


....and once again. we've never seen canelo at 160. at this moment. his 100% best is at 154. end of story. there's really nothing you can say to dispute that.
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OK, using your logic, we've also never seen GGG even 1lb under 160, so why would you want to see (in your words & logic) a 100% Canelo vs a non-100% GGG at 154? :jbhmm:


Would that win impress you? The fact the only way you can beat someone is to drain them 6 lbs to do it?:dahell:
 
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Newzz said:
You can't perform unless you make weight first...and Canelo barely made 154 in September, so why did you say he easily makes it?





Vs an opponent like Liam Smith? Why would I think he's gonna gas out from Liam Smith? Liam Smith can't do anything to bother Canelo, so there was no energy expound in order to gas out like it was vs Floyd, Lara, & even Cotto to an extent.

Liam Smith barely put up a fight, it was a showcase fight...who gasses out in showcase fights that only go 9?





I have to consider the opposition




I'm responding to the bolded or quoted statements you make.




No I don't...I addressed it when that was the reality. However, since November 2015....a whole year ago...Canelo has been ducking GGG. However, you won't acknowledge THAT.

Currently, GGG literally bullied Canelo into giving up the WBC Middleweight Championship and run down to another division rather than face his mandatory for the belt....how this is NOT a blatant duck to you is crazy to me.




OK, using your logic, we've also never seen GGG even 1lb under 160, so why would you want to see (in your words & logic) a 100% Canelo vs a non-100% GGG at 154? :jbhmm:


Would that win impress you? The fact the only way you can beat someone is to drain them 6 lbs to do it?:dahell:
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Also makes me wonder that dude from Jacobs camp on the other forum kinda said that GGG's team runs their mouth about GGG fighting in different divisions, but GGG himself doesn't really want to do that. Sounded like if it was up to him and he en could always find an opponent he would stay at 160, he wasn't interested in all the 168 lb talk in that always goes on.
Or maybe it was Bread saying that...but I thought it was the Jacob's insider.
 
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Newzz said:
OK, using your logic, we've also never seen GGG even 1lb under 160, so why would you want to see (in your words & logic) a 100% Canelo vs a non-100% GGG at 154? :jbhmm:


Would that win impress you? The fact the only way you can beat someone is to drain them 6 lbs to do it?:dahell:
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canelo didnt want him to come down to 154. they suggested a catchweight of 157 and sanchez and little g refused to give even one pound. so BOTH fighter's sacrifice a little something. you say you want both guys to be 100%, but at the same time you want canelo to move up to 160 and fight little g in his very first fight there?....do you really expect canelo to be 100% in his first fight at 160?....you're not even making sense.


before all this went down, canelo NEVER said he wanted to move up to 160. on the other hand, little g has stated many times he will fight ANYBODY 154 to 168, but then refused every fukkin challenge that was presented to him at those weights. you make a statement like that, back it up. canelo stated he'd fight little g at 160 and he's backing it up. little g has a career high offer on the table right now and he refuses to accept it. that's the reality. it may not be the offer he's looking for, but canelo is moving up to his weight class. if he wants to get more money, he can move his ass down to JMW and get some extra leverage in negotiations. but he's refused to make ANY sacrifice to make this fight happen. if canelo has to sacrifice some weight, little g has to sacrifice some money. that's how this shyt works. in reality, canelo doesn't have to sacrifice shyt. he holds every card right now and little g has no other options. canelo can be a dikk and demand 154, 10 mil flat fee, and a rehydration clause if he feels like it. little g's punk ass better be grateful for that 160 and accept that career high pay day. he has no leverage in dealing with canelo. NONE.



and as long as you agree that little g ducked canelo first, that's all that matters:CaneloRejoice:




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GREENandYELLOW said:
Also makes me wonder that dude from Jacobs camp on the other forum kinda said that GGG's team runs their mouth about GGG fighting in different divisions, but GGG himself doesn't really want to do that. Sounded like if it was up to him and he en could always find an opponent he would stay at 160, he wasn't interested in all the 168 lb talk in that always goes on.
Or maybe it was Bread saying that...but I thought it was the Jacob's insider.
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nah im sure I heard him say he would fight may at 154. also that he would only move up until he gets all belts. never heard anything bout beating everyone at 175 tho.
 
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