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[Newzz]

@Newzz can't son these clowns too hard or they'll block him & be all up in their feelings

Right. Steve Kim already blocked me, and he did that because I was going hard on GGG (dude hit with me the merchandise sells from the Lemieux fight to justify it being a "big fight"), so I learned it's only so far you can push them with facts before they block you


All the brehs on here who follow me on twitter see me digging for info, see me getting in better with RB (@LeVraiPapi ), Doug Fischer, Adam Abrowitz, Mike Coppinger, Mitchell Abramson, Breadman, etc....all these people have direct sources & first hand knowledge, or even more solid "rumors" than we have due to the fact they actually are involved in the sport vs just posting about it on a message board.


I cant believe we have so called "hardcore fans" of the sport in here hating on that, because I always come back with the info we previously didn't have after they respond to me...I never hold out. Even can get Tank, Imam, Tevin Farmer, Vanes Martirosyan, J Rock, Robert Easter, & Jamel Herring to respond to my questions, so I think Im doing the right thing for us to stay up to date with the most factual information as possible.



@LeVraiPapi has a very good source for PBC info as well as @MIAlien with his sources. Im just trying to make sure we stay on point when discussing this Sweet Science, because who better to get the information from rather than those who actually get PAID to cover it and interview these people.....and even the Boxers who get in the ring themselves.


@Black_Jesus can beat it with his slander

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Canelo/khan did close to 600k and that was a mismatch as well

Nah the real number closer to 350k iirc.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

"Don't debate the mentally ill"

I never said lil g ducked anyone. the fight is gonna happen damn its a mega fight . it takes 2 year to make a fight this big. it could have happened earlier if lil g bevy l bent over but whatever

 

[Black_Jesus]

Nah the real number closer to 350k iirc.

The "real" number?

 

[#SOG_soldier]

The "real" number?

Yeah hbo inflates their numbers. Canelo v Cotto really did like 750k iirc. and khan only did 350k iirc. canelo and lil g will do 800k hbo numbers but 575k irl.

 

[Black_Jesus]

@Black_Jesus can beat it with his slander

get out your feel feels

Nobody slandered you.. just because I brought up twitter fingers which may or may not be the PC term for what you're doing, dont mean its slander..

Its just a waste of time on this particular subject since Oscar has already made his stance that ggg side was getting an upside.. May not be the upside that him and his stans want.. may not be pacquiao split but he is getting some back end... the amount just wont be negotiable since ggg doesnt have any bargaining chips as far as HBO ppv goes against Canelo..

 

[HeruDat1]

Julian Williams' Trainer on Finally Finalizing Jermall Charlo Shot - Boxing News

 

[Black_Jesus]

Yeah hbo inflates their numbers. Canelo v Cotto really did like 750k iirc. and khan only did 350k iirc. canelo and lil g will do 800k hbo numbers but 575k irl.

And im assuming you actually believe Showtime doesn't do this either?,

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

get out your feel feels

Nobody slandered you.. just because I brought up twitter fingers which may or may not be the PC term for what you're doing, dont mean its slander..

Its just a waste of time on this particular subject since Oscar has already made his stance that ggg side was getting an upside.. May not be the upside that him and his stans want.. may not be pacquiao split but he is getting some back end... the amount just wont be negotiable since ggg doesnt have any bargaining chips as far as HBO ppv goes against Canelo..

You should know this better than everyone. Did Pacquiao deserve to fight Mayweather based on the fact he was a high six-figure, sometimes million plus PPV seller, or did he deserve to get paid because he and Floyd TOGETHER make a 4.5 million PPV?
Canelo can go and do a PPV with anyone and sell more PPV's than GGG can by himself. But you aren't going to give GGG a fair split because Canelo + GGG equals the most PPV's either will sell (outside of a Mayweather fight)?

 

[reservoirdogs]

Don't debate the mentally ill? That's a quote from Doug Fischer in regards to triple g?

I'm checking out of this Canelo/Triple g stuff until at least June of next year. Too many positive things in boxing for one to look at.

Like...?

If it was ironic then I get it but if it was for real then not

I was hoping for a good year closing but almost all the good fights either are off or they are delayed to 2017.
there will be some good fights but otherwise this HBO budget fukkery and the PBC "we can't even make fights no more" fukkery was category and left our taste in my mouth.

 

[Black_Jesus]

You should know this better than everyone. Did Pacquiao deserve to fight Mayweather based on the fact he was a high six-figure, sometimes million plus PPV seller...........

Yea breh lemmie stop you right there....
Here yall go still trying to compare Pacquiao to a ppv flop who fights on reggie hbo who's highest ppv was 97-150k buys.

ggg aint pacquiao in any way no matter how much his Stanleys believe it..

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Like...?

If it was ironic then I get it but if it was for real then not

I was hoping for a good year closing but almost all the good fights either are off or they are delayed to 2017.
there will be some good fights but otherwise this HBO budget fukkery and the PBC "we can't even make fights no more" fukkery was category and left our taste in my mouth.

Pac/Vargas card-main event is weak, but UC is fire.
Loma/Walters
Kovalev/Ward (and in 2017 Kovalev/Ward 2)
J-Rock/Charlo UC of Cuellar Mares
Mikey/Zlatican
LSC/Frampton 2
Possibly Inoue/Chocolatito

That's just off the top of my head breh. Yea 2016 was subpar, but at least it's going out with a bang. I'm just tapping out of the Canelo/Triple G shyt. Are the articles and fan wars funny? Yea to a degree, but I'm at the point where I just wanna see the mofo's fight. As long as they're properly compensated I could give half a fukk who the A side is or who gets more of a PPV backend. It seems like there's at least one dope ass fight in each division that's getting torpedoed cause of some bullshyt. Let alone the clusterfukk between 140-160 and at Heavyweight.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Now, there's a difference in between what I do on twitter vs what yall do on here.


I actually get questions answered and find out some info we wouldn't normally have, because I spend my time on twitter building a bridge between myself and the people who hold the insider's info...........in order to bring BACK factual info to yall so we know what the hell we're talking about



I could be selfish, and just post on twitter and repeat the info in the chat with my brehs on here, but instead, Im sharing the wealth. ESPECIALLY considering that mostly everyone I tagged do not respond back to people they don't know


Don't be ungrateful

the breh Newzz y'all

 

[Mook]

God damn @Newzz looks like a damn goon. If he walked up to me I'd be

 

[reservoirdogs]

Pac/Vargas card-main event is weak, but UC is fire.
Loma/Walters
Kovalev/Ward (and in 2017 Kovalev/Ward 2)
J-Rock/Charlo UC of Cuellar Mares
Mikey/Zlatican
LSC/Frampton 2
Possibly Inoue/Chocolatito

That's just off the top of my head breh. Yea 2016 was subpar, but at least it's going out with a bang. I'm just tapping out of the Canelo/Triple G shyt. Are the articles and fan wars funny? Yea to a degree, but I'm at the point where I just wanna see the mofo's fight. As long as they're properly compensated I could give half a fukk who the A side is or who gets more of a PPV backend. It seems like there's at least one dope ass fight in each division that's getting torpedoed cause of some bullshyt. Let alone the clusterfukk between 140-160 and at Heavyweight.

Aren't the last three out of these in next year?

Yeah I co-sign Ward vs Kov, Loma vs Walters and Williams vs Charlo

however they fukked Klitschko vs Joshua up
Andrade also fukked it up

Pac - Vargas card is a so-so. I doN't say it's bad bu it isn't that great either.
Glad to see Valdez back but a fight against that Japanese dude isn't that big attraction.
Donaire vs Magdaleno can be fine

Shiming... idc about Shiming

the real thing which got me mad is the PBC's fukkery and the further delay of their fight plus that Klitschko vs Joshua went off and that Golovkin vs Jacobs is either delayed or off. Both of the latter ones were promised for almost 100% sure at a point and then both of them went off...
Charlo vs J-Rock should have happened in September or so, but we're even lucky that those incompetent organizers could make it to December.
DeGale vs Jack should have happened in October but they managed to push it out till January...