Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[patscorpio]

not TR WBO champions from the pas three years 122 and up + Roman Martinez (well known, built up, so easily relevant matter from political standpoint)

Billy Joe Saunders
Algieri
Provo
Liam Smith
Andy Lee
Flanagan
Quillin
Cleverley
Glowacki
Andrade (when he was WBO champ)
Abraham
Huck
Stieglitz
Baysangurov
Chocolatito
Burns
May
Fury
Wlad
Kovalev

20 people, 10 of them (bold ones) with HBO, the 4 put in italics are not exactly HBO fighters but they are HBO affiliated, two of them (BJS, Liam) planned to fight on HBO in America (against Canelo and on that card) and Stieglitz fought on HBO last time he left Germany. And also Abraham fought on HBO when he moved out of Germany since along time against Gilberto Ramirez.

6 guys left, May, Quillin, Huck and Glowacki (underlined) are the exceptions cause they are Haymon affiliated and/or PBC(or affiliated) fighters

that leaves only two, Flanagan and Baysangurov none of them fought outside their own country or Europe

now add the 12 TR fighters (all HBO) who held WBO belts in the last 3 years.

32 people, 26 of them HBO or HBO affiliated fighters
4 out of 32 are Haymon/PBC affiliated
2 irrelevant


Bob was a puppet all along

burns and cleverly arent hbo affiliated fighters..andy lee is the same..certainly not when he was champion

 

[Axum Ezana]

That's some hoe ass shyt IMO

ehh maybe but boxers reveal shyt like that all the time.

 

[Axum Ezana]

uh kevin johnson had a chin breh..wasnt down or stopped until joshua

yeah but breh was flabbynsick. plus I don't think Johnson has elite power to make josh back up.

 

[FreedMind]

Knocked out his mouth piece!! Schooling him.

 

[reservoirdogs]

burns and cleverly arent hbo affiliated fighters

Cleverley fought Kovalev on HBO

Burns fought Crawford there when he was WBO champion

if I count Huck as PBC affiliated just because then Glowacki fight then they are also HBO affiliated

but right Burns and Cleverley should be also italic
doesn't change the point though

Very-very big overlap

 

[mr. smoke weed]

this james-ugas fight is some good shyt so far

Ugas got some skills

 

[reservoirdogs]

@patscorpio

Lee fought on an HBO card when he won his belt (Cotto vs Martinez) but I really forgot that one time he also fought on PBC (or Sho) after that against Quillin

put him to the neutral category with Flanagan and Baysangurov

 

[patscorpio]

yeah but breh was flabbynsick. plus I don't think Johnson has elite power to make josh back up.

kevin johnson could punch he just wasn't active enough..which was his issue for some reason...semantics..is it was said that the first person with a chin would KO joshua..kevin johnson had never been ko'ed or dropped until he faced joshua..and he wasnt flabby or sick either

 

[malbaker86]

have you learned nothing from charles martin?

Those wounds are still fresh bruh

 

[patscorpio]

Cleverley fought Kovalev on HBO

Burns fought Crawford there when he was WBO champion

if I count Huck as PBC affiliated just because then Glowacki fight then they are also HBO affiliated

but right Burns and Cleverley should be also italic
doesn't change the point though

Very-very big overlap

cleverly fought fonfara on a pbc and hbo didnt air crawford-burns..there are fighters that have no politics and can go back and forth

 

[patscorpio]

Ugas got some skills

dude was another one of those cuban amateurs that had some high level amateur victories..but floundered in the pros

 

[reservoirdogs]

cleverly fought fonfara on a pbc and hbo didnt air crawford-burns..there are fighters that have no politics and can go back and forth

So you don't think that there's a connection at all or just simply that it's exist but not that strong as I described it? Or maybe that it's still rather connected to Arum than to HBO

 

[patscorpio]

So you don't think that there's a connection at all or just simply that it's exist but not that strong as I described it? Or maybe that it's still rather connected to Arum than to HBO

none..because they are not signed to either..there are fighters that have no political roadblocks

 

[patscorpio]

ugas winning this fight handily..and he hasn't fought since 2014

 

[reservoirdogs]

none..because they are not signed to either..there are fighters that have no political roadblocks

DidN't think about these fighters specifically but overall to the whole situation

Arum's connection with the WBO is undeniable
12 out of his 15 champions in the past 3 years had the WBO belt with the exception of Walters, Postol and Gradovich.