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[mr. smoke weed]

I gotta see Spence pass the chin test before I favor him over Manny. I have no problem with cats saying Spence needs to beat Brook or a few other top names before we start that mythical match up or potential fight. Algieri is a good test and legit win, but it's still not enough.

Chves would actually be a perfect next fight for him. Dude fights dirty, rough and tumble on the inside, and has heavy hands.

Then again he's chves

 

[Newzz]

We'll see....I'll be here to remind yall about all this 3 years from now when Spence is doing his thing

Chves would actually be a perfect next fight for him. Dude fights dirty, rough and tumble on the inside, and has heavy hands.

Then again he's chves

Spence destroys him and then it's gonna be "but it was Chves"




If I was Spence, I'd run around beating up everyone that Swift, Thurman/Porter, and Brook have fought at 147 and then call them out afterwards every single time

 

[H.I.M.]

Spence has all the tools to beat this current version of Pac...think he has the skillset + athleticism, aggression & tenacity to cut Pac off on the ropes and leave him dangling...obviously he'd likely have to eat a few straight lefts as he's coming in attempting to smother Pac's work...which begs the question...what them whiskers like???? Seem to recall him getting buckled against a African journeyman a couple years back...

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

As far as Spence goes, how can you do anything when you have people acting like he's playing "Duck, Duck, Goose" and praying to Allah Haymon they aren't picked next? Even Swift talkin bout:






But yet in his 21st career fight, Swift beat 27-4 Kendall **** (1 time WBO Junior Welterweight Champion) and in his 22nd fight was facing Erik Morales for the Championship. Morales didn't tell him to "pay his dues" first


Spence just fought 21-2 Chris Algieri (1 time WBO Junior Welterwight Champion) and in his 21st fight looking to face a Champion......but he has to wait


In his 18th professional fight, Floyd was fighting for a Championship. Nobody said "he needs to wait some more"

Somebody, besides Algieri (who gets for taking the fight) has to be willing to get in the ring with Spence. Instead, all of this Welterweights in this "stacked division" are looking to move out the way or push Spence on to the next man...and people are sitting back allowing it, while claiming the Boxing needs to have the best fighting the best like back in the good ol days

Swift at 23 yrs old beat **** to became #1 WBC AND #1 IBF.... He then got his title shot...ain't nothing was given to him

His resume was ****, Campbell, Theophane


23yr old Swift resume > 26yr old Spence resume


Like I said Ken Porter said the EXACT same thing as Swift regarding Spence


Spence needs to beat the euro cac become #1 contender...Get the belt N then hell get his big fights

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Swift at 23 yrs old beat **** to became #1 WBC AND #1 IBF.... He then got his title shot...ain't nothing was given to him

His resume was ****, Campbell, Theophane


23yr old Swift resume > 26yr old Spence resume


Like I said Ken Porter said the EXACT same thing as Swift regarding Spence


Spence needs to beat the euro cac become #1 contender...Get the belt N then hell get his big fights

yup

and **** at the time is pretty much equal to Algieri in terms of stature in the sport. (Plus they both B level guys)

The thing is with **** is at least he can crack and box a bit so beating him answered more questions for Swift than Algieri did for Spence. Chris can box his ass off, but that's about it. He's not going to test your chin unless your Khan

 

[Newzz]

Once Spence starts beating up these "top" Welterweights, the excuses are gonna start flowing in.

 

[HeruDat1]

Dudes in boxing trying to call shots like Mayweather/Klitsch and the main thing they lacking that holds weight is longevity. Be on top more than 1-3 years before you trying to call shots telling guys to "earn" this and that.

All that says is this guy is too high risk for my career. They protecting their carefully picked records.

 

[Newzz]

Dudes in boxing trying to call shots like Mayweather/Klitsch and the main thing they lacking that holds weight is longevity. Be on top more than 1-3 years before you trying to call shots telling guys to "earn" this and that.

All that says is this guy is too high risk for my career. They protecting their carefully picked records.

Exactly.

 

[Newzz]

So Kell Brook is intent on calling out a Junior Welterweight, who isn't ranked ANYWHERE by ANYONE at Welterweight.......but wont call out the IBF #2 contender, the undefeated #7 RING Magazine Welterweight in the world, who just called him out after a dominant performance.


Kell Brook: I'd Like To Smack Adrien Broner About, Give Beating - Boxing News

 

[Black_Jesus]

Pacquiao won 2 rounds on my card and never threatened Floyd at all in their fight. How was he not outclassed when there weren't many "up for grabs" rounds? It was pretty much all Floyd and he put on a clean performance


Floyd looked on another level than Pacquiao...fight was closer to 120-108 than 114-114. Never did Pacquiao look in control of the fight

Well Newzz we all know your card is biased and bullshyt. And you gave EVERY close round to Floyd and disregard anything manny did, like making Floyd miss plenty of times and blocking Floyds punches also, but when Floyd does the same thing he's putting on a clinic... the nerve of you saying Floyd "easily" did anything.. especially when you and multiple others claimed Floyd was gonna KO Pac, just like Rios was supposed to do, Bradley was supposed to do twice, even some were giving Algieri a chance for the Victory... each time Pacquiao is being underestimated again and again :mjlol, but when he dominates these guys all of a sudden they're bums and you get the bullshyt "I was never impressed with Bradley's boxing" wierdo fans

Now If you really wanna revisit that Floyd fight(which you dont) we can do that. And you will see a shook fighter that respected Pacquiao's ability and took ZERO chances unlike how he fought Cotto, Maidana(1st fight), and Berto.. and the rounds that Floyd did win it was based purely from statistics of maybe landing a couple more punches than Pac in a round.. which is why instead of us seeing a war, or this imaginary "clinic" that Floyd ball gobblers claim took place, we instead see nothing more than a HIGH level sparring match between Floyd and Manny (with only 1 good arm) And I still give Floyd his credit for the win.. And lets not even act like Floyd didn't admit that the fight was not easy and gave Crawford a stern WARNING not to fukk with the REAL Truth


Now tell us more about all these physical "advantages" Spence has because last I checked Chris Algieri was also taller, younger, had longer reach..AND as far as power goes

Pacquaio is faster of hand & foot, better footwork, more experienced...but what else? They both have similar power.
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These are your words.. Pac has better hands, footwork, and is more experienced.. and they have similar power..

Now after watching Pacquiao for all these years, we know all that "power" shyt goes out the window as soon as they start to get tagged in the face... Mind you, Spence chin has still not been tested... what will happen when Spence takes multiple shots to the face by Pacquiao?? who we know, but dont want to admit, because of our closeted hatred for Pac, has always been VERY accurate frm multiple angles.. ESPECIALLY vs guys who like to come forward.

Because lets be honest thats the only reason that fake as "truth" overwhelmed Algieri. Because he could just come forward and not have to worry about power.

Only reason you're so confident in Spence over Manny is because you know the fight probably never takes place since Manny is done.. Or maybe this is the same delusional confidence where you were willing to put up $500 that Adrian Broner would beat Pacquiao

And please dont you ever mention resume when it comes to any type of Spence vs Manny discussions

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Well Newzz we all know your card is biased and bullshyt. And you gave EVERY close round to Floyd and disregard anything manny did, like making Floyd miss plenty of times and blocking Floyds punches also, but when Floyd does the same thing he's putting on a clinic... the nerve of you saying Floyd "easily" did anything.. especially when you and multiple others claimed Floyd was gonna KO Pac, just like Rios was supposed to do, Bradley was supposed to do twice, even some were giving Algieri a chance for the Victory... each time Pacquiao is being underestimated again and again :mjlol, but when he dominates these guys all of a sudden they're bums and you get the bullshyt "I was never impressed with Bradley's boxing" wierdo fans

Now If you really wanna revisit that Floyd fight(which you dont) we can do that. And you will see a shook fighter that respected Pacquiao's ability and took ZERO chances unlike how he fought Cotto, Maidana(1st fight), and Berto.. and the rounds that Floyd did win it was based purely from statistics of maybe landing a couple more punches than Pac in a round.. which is why instead of us seeing a war, or this imaginary "clinic" that Floyd ball gobblers claim took place, we instead see nothing more than a HIGH level sparring match between Floyd and Manny (with only 1 good arm) And I still give Floyd his credit for the win.. And lets not even act like Floyd didn't admit that the fight was not easy and gave Crawford a stern WARNING not to fukk with the REAL Truth


Now tell us more about all these physical "advantages" Spence has because last I checked Chris Algieri was also taller, younger, had longer reach..AND as far as power goes

Pacquaio is faster of hand & foot, better footwork, more experienced...but what else? They both have similar power.
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These are your words.. Pac has better hands, footwork, and is more experienced.. and they have similar power..

Now after watching Pacquiao for all these years, we know all that "power" shyt goes out the window as soon as they start to get tagged in the face... Mind you, Spence chin has still not been tested... what will happen when Spence takes multiple shots to the face by Pacquiao?? who we know, but dont want to admit, because of our closeted hatred for Pac, has always been VERY accurate frm multiple angles.. ESPECIALLY vs guys who like to come forward.

Because lets be honest thats the only reason that fake as "truth" overwhelmed Algieri. Because he could just come forward and not have to worry about power.

Only reason you're so confident in Spence over Manny is because you know the fight probably never takes place since Manny is done.. Or maybe this is the same delusional confidence where you were willing to put up $500 that Adrian Broner would beat Pacquiao

The Triple OG PAC Stan just dusted off his Manny Flame trunks N came out of retirement dumping on nikkas

 

[Black_Jesus]

The Triple OG PAC Stan just dusted off his Manny Flame trunks N came out of retirement dumping on nikkas

Aye man, the guns is always loaded and at ready position

These nikkas got life fukked up

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

you nikkas man.

 

[HeruDat1]

Exactly.

All these guys in the same boat cept PAC and Bradley...tip toe'n around each other. Porter seem to wanna fight whoever I'll give em that.

 

[Newzz]

It's been a long time since I've done this....but oh well

Well Newzz we all know your card is biased and bullshyt.

Im biased to Floyd?



That's news to me........

And you gave EVERY close round to Floyd

What close rounds?

and disregard anything manny did, like making Floyd miss plenty of times and blocking Floyds punches also, but when Floyd does the same thing he's putting on a clinic... the nerve of you saying Floyd "easily" did anything..

Beating someone 118-110 on my card, and losing OFFICIALLY 10-2, 8-4, and 8-4 on the judges cards, plus having HBO score it 9-3 for Floyd, Showtime score it 10-2 for Floyd means Floyd won easy.


What problems did he have in there?


What did he have to adjust to in there?


Easy work.

especially when you and multiple others claimed Floyd was gonna KO Pac, just like Rios was supposed to do, Bradley was supposed to do twice, even some were giving Algieri a chance for the Victory...

Don't bring up "multiple others"....where did I claim Floyd was gonna KO him, Rios was gonna KO him, Bradley was gonna KO him, or Algieri (who YOU called a MasterBoxer) had a chance?


Where are the receipts?

each time Pacquiao is being underestimated again and again :mjlol, but when he dominates these guys all of a sudden they're bums and you get the bullshyt "I was never impressed with Bradley's boxing" wierdo fans

Receipts for me EVER saying Bradley had any real skill?


No huh? Just talking out the side of your neck huh?


Bradley is weak, sloppy, doesn't follow his corner's directions, and Im on record in here for YEARS saying Bradley just wins. There is nothing special about Bradley except his "will" to win, so beating him over and over means nothing to me, being that I don't believe he's that talented of a Boxer

Now If you really wanna revisit that Floyd fight(which you dont) we can do that. And you will see a shook fighter that respected Pacquiao's ability and took ZERO chances unlike how he fought Cotto, Maidana(1st fight), and Berto.. and the rounds that Floyd did win it was based purely from statistics of maybe landing a couple more punches than Pac in a round.. which is why instead of us seeing a war, or this imaginary "clinic" that Floyd ball gobblers claim took place, we instead see nothing more than a HIGH level sparring match between Floyd and Manny (with only 1 good arm)

I've revisited that thread multiple times, gave the same scorecard everytime. Pacquiao lost cleanly, clearly, widely, decisively, and it wasn't close at all.

And I still give Floyd his credit for the win.. And lets not even act like Floyd didn't admit that the fight was not easy and gave Crawford a stern WARNING not to fukk with the REAL Truth

Floyd doesn't want his #1 victory to get snatched from him. Crawford beats Pacquiao and KOs him in the process

Now tell us more about all these physical "advantages" Spence has because last I checked Chris Algieri was also taller, younger, had longer reach..AND as far as power goes

Pacquaio is faster of hand & foot, better footwork, more experienced...but what else? They both have similar power.
Click to expand...​

These are your words.. Pac has better hands, footwork, and is more experienced.. and they have similar power..

Now after watching Pacquiao for all these years, we know all that "power" shyt goes out the window as soon as they start to get tagged in the face... Mind you, Spence chin has still not been tested... what will happen when Spence takes multiple shots to the face by Pacquiao?? who we know, but dont want to admit, because of our closeted hatred for Pac, has always been VERY accurate frm multiple angles.. ESPECIALLY vs guys who like to come forward.

Because lets be honest thats the only reason that fake as "truth" overwhelmed Algieri. Because he could just come forward and not have to worry about power.

Spence is naturally larger and stronger than Algieri. Spence started his career at Junior Middleweight...not 140 like Algieri. He's also MUCH stronger, much more powerful, younger, 1/2 inch shorter with the exact same reach of 72 inches. What are you talking about even comparing Spence and Algieri's physicality to each other knowing that Spence is much more physically imposing standing infront of Pacquiao than Algieri would be. PLUS Spence has Olympian/Elite Amateur pedigree in his foundation as a Boxer


As for the rest of this particular piece I quoted, it's a whole buncha hypothetical questions in there......and then we get to the REAL


You mad because Spence is the Truth, that now all of a sudden, you wanna hate the man?


Calling him "that fake a$$ truth" huh?


No, the reason Algieri was dominated and overwhelmed by Spence was his BODY WORK and his abilty to cut the ring off asap once he hurt Algieri...something that Pacquiao never had and never will have in his arsenal. If you watched the fight, you would know that instead of becoming a hater of Errol Spence because it only took him 13 minutes to accomplish what Manny couldn't accomplish in 36 minutes.

Only reason you're so confident in Spence over Manny is because you know the fight probably never takes place since Manny is done..

Im confident in either Spence OR Crawford vs Manny Pacquiao as I've said on numerous occasions.

Or maybe this is the same delusional confidence where you were willing to put up $500 that Adrian Broner would beat Pacquiao

Which one of em turned down the fight....it wasn't AB