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I've never made a public P4P list before... what ya'll think?

Note: I don't mind any criticism or critiquing of the list, I'm just going off what I've seen recently and what they've done. Hope it's not too turrible.

Note2: Manny and Floyd are both retired so they're not on the list.

1. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
2. Sergey "KKKrusher" Kovalev
3. Erislandy "The American Dream" Lara
4. Roman "Chocalito" Gonzales
5. Carl "The Jackal" Frampton
6. Terrence "Bud" Crawford
7. Tyson Fury -- ...does he have a nickname?
8. Guillermo "El Jackal" Rigondeaux
9. Wanheng Menayothin
10. Gennady "GGG" Golovkin
11. "Dr. Steelhammer" Wladimir Klitschko
12. Rances Barthelemy
13. Shinsuke "God's Left" Yamanaka
14. Donnie Nietes
15. Krysztof Glowacki
16. Viktor "Iceman" Postol
17. Andre "S.O.G." Ward
18. Naoya "Monster" Inoue
19. Kazuka Ioka
20. Takashi Uchiyama

Runner Ups: Adonis "Superman" Stevenson, Kell "Special K" Brook, Keith "1-Time" Thurman, Jamie McDonnell, Juan Francisco Estrada

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What weakness have you seen in Spence? :jbhmm:


Taller, Bigger, Stronger, Longer reach, Youth, confidence of never tasting defeat in the pros/being avoided by current top boxers/ beating up BOTH Adrien Broner & Floyd Mayweather in sparring, more technical in his approach to the fight, better body work, better cutting off the ring, better defense

Pacquaio is faster of hand & foot, better footwork, more experienced...but what else? They both have similar power.
I've see one maybe two/three spence fights. Haven't seen any weaknesses yet :manny:

But what's it called? Oh yea when you go from fighting jobbers to gatekeepers than to real competition shyt gets hard. I'm not hating on Spence, but better than Manny? Nah I can't rock with that right now. Even such, he should be compared to the level of comp he's facing, yea his skillset jumps off the page, but at the end of the day he's only beaten Algeria. Should be compared with the B- guys now, the B guys when he faces them and so on. I guess comparing him to the; Thurmans, Porters, Swifts, Brooks etc of the world would be okay, just a bit early imo. I think we can properly rate him when his level of competition becomes more consistent. No more jobbers, no more no namers etc.

I said lil G before, but BeterBeast and Young Valdez are much better comparisons. Both have blown all their comp out the water, but still need to face their next tier opponent. But they're all #1 contenders for a strap so we'll see.
 

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Ken Porter called One Time lil Kee Kee
:dead:

Said "Lil Kee Kee didn't wanna have the fight in Vegas cuz he says that's our home Town...so we going have our camp in NY N on fight night Lil Kee Kee going think we still got that home field advantage"

Helllllllllll nahhhhhh!!!!!! Do you got a link? That sounds fukkin hilarious.

Keith "lil kee kee/sometimes/run time" Thurman :dead::russ::mjlol:

Even crazier, none of those are ring nicknames :ohhh:
 

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Ken Porter called One Time lil Kee Kee
:dead:

Said "Lil Kee Kee didn't wanna have the fight in Vegas cuz he says that's our home Town...so we going have our camp in NY N on fight night Lil Kee Kee going think we still got that home field advantage"
Too high too early
 

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Underestimate Pacquiao brehs :mjlol:
I've see one maybe two/three spence fights. Haven't seen any weaknesses yet :manny:

But what's it called? Oh yea when you go from fighting jobbers to gatekeepers than to real competition shyt gets hard. I'm not hating on Spence, but better than Manny? Nah I can't rock with that right now. Even such, he should be compared to the level of comp he's facing, yea his skillset jumps off the page, but at the end of the day he's only beaten Algeria. Should be compared with the B- guys now, the B guys when he faces them and so on. I guess comparing him to the; Thurmans, Porters, Swifts, Brooks etc of the world would be okay, just a bit early imo. I think we can properly rate him when his level of competition becomes more consistent. No more jobbers, no more no namers etc.

I said lil G before, but BeterBeast and Young Valdez are much better comparisons. Both have blown all their comp out the water, but still need to face their next tier opponent. But they're all #1 contenders for a strap so we'll see.

Spence doesn't have to currently have a better career resume than Pacquiao in order to beat him...and unfortunately, neither of you (nor anyone else) has provided any head to head reason as to why Pacquiao beats Spence.

What advantages does Pacquiao have over Spence? It seems to me that Spence would be the one with all the advantages if they fought and all yall can say for Manny is "but, his resume is better"...Boxers with better resumes lose every day B:manny:

Manny Pacquiao has the better career resume, but head to head, he's in a world of trouble if Spence would be standing across from him.

Manny’s last 5 years: Beat a 40 year old Shane Mosley who was coming off a draw with Sergio Mora, robbery of JMM in their 3rd fight, "loss" to Bradley (who's boxing skill I have never been or never will be high on), left :deadmanny: by JMM in their 4th fight, 3 straight UDs over Brandon Rios (who did nothing)/Timothy Bradley/Chris Algieri (same dude who was just destroyed more impressively by Spence), a boxing lesson gave to him by Floyd Mayweather, and another UD over Bradley.

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Helllllllllll nahhhhhh!!!!!! Do you got a link? That sounds fukkin hilarious.

Keith "lil kee kee/sometimes/run time" Thurman :dead::russ::mjlol:

Even crazier, none of those are ring nicknames :ohhh:
The latest ep of Tha Boxingvoice. Last Sunday night.


E. Spence made it. All types of bullshyt coming out. From ratings to his chest....
 

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I've never made a public P4P list before... what ya'll think?

Note: I don't mind any criticism or critiquing of the list, I'm just going off what I've seen recently and what they've done. Hope it's not too turrible.

Note2: Manny and Floyd are both retired so they're not on the list.

1. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
2. Sergey "KKKrusher" Kovalev
3. Erislandy "The American Dream" Lara
4. Roman "Chocalito" Gonzales
5. Carl "The Jackal" Frampton
6. Terrence "Bud" Crawford
7. Tyson Fury -- ...does he have a nickname?
8. Guillermo "El Jackal" Rigondeaux
9. Wanheng Menayothin
10. Gennady "GGG" Golovkin
11. "Dr. Steelhammer" Wladimir Klitschko
12. Rances Barthelemy
13. Shinsuke "God's Left" Yamanaka
14. Donnie Nietes
15. Krysztof Glowacki
16. Viktor "Iceman" Postol
17. Andre "S.O.G." Ward
18. Naoya "Monster" Inoue
19. Kazuka Ioka
20. Takashi Uchiyama

Runner Ups: Adonis "Superman" Stevenson, Kell "Special K" Brook, Keith "1-Time" Thurman, Jamie McDonnell, Juan Francisco Estrada
Horrible list:yeshrug:
 

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Manny’s last 5 years: Beat a 40 year old Shane Mosley who was coming off a draw with Sergio Mora, robbery of JMM in their 3rd fight, "loss" to Bradley (who's boxing skill I have never been or never will be high on), left :deadmanny: by JMM in their 4th fight, 3 straight UDs over Brandon Rios (who did nothing)/Timothy Bradley/Chris Algieri (same dude who was just destroyed more impressively by Spence), a boxing lesson gave to him by Floyd Mayweather, and another UD over Bradley.

:yeshrug:

You're clearly missing the point here breh. With the exception of Algeria (who Manny also fought), who else has Spence fought?. Yes boxers with better resumes get beat every day. However look at all those opponents you're noting that Manny fought; JMM, Bradley, Floyd, Shane Mosley. Spence has NEVER faced that level of competition. He beat one gatekeeper opponent, although looked impressive doing so. :many: but do what you got to
 
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