Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[JDee323]

I don't have a problem with people saying GGG should consider it, but Lara is not the end all be all. I just don't think that highly of him. The key thing here is that his mandatory is with the IBF and they actually enforce their rules. I haven't heard anything definitive, but it sounds like unless he got the Canelo fight, he was going to be required to take his IBF mandatory or risk being stripped and that risk is very real - see Tyson Fury. The difference is that Fury said he didn't care about the belt so he did nothing to try and keep it. GGG has stated that the belts and total MW unification is important to him and so far all his moves have indicated as such, so an IBF defense is greater than a fight vs. Lara. The other two belts are with Canelo and BJS and those are the two fights he clearly and vocally has pursued.

Again, people may not be impressed with the IBF mandatory, that is fine, but he is doing exactly what he has said he would do - go for MW unification and to do so is bigger than just Lara. People are comparing Lara vs. IBF mandatory. Not the argument. Keeping the IBF to go after BJS and Canelo is what people should be excited about. A fighter going after the other best fighters in the division and wanting to be historically relevant by being unified champ, what a concept!

i can understand him not wanting to be stripped, but then why start talking with degale's camp if thats the case? my issue is with people saying he's the most avoided, everybodys scared, etc when theres someone jumping up and down with his hand raised willing to fight. if that fight is terrible on paper, then what was the willie monroe fight on paper? i actually enjoyed that one more than the lemieux fight which had foty potential before it happened.

 

[Piff Huxtable]

and just for @Piff Huxtable rewatch and rescore Ruiz-Golota

at me rewatching a Ruiz fight where he's not taking an official L

That fight was just like Bradley-**** or Wlad-Peter I where the fighter that got knocked down still controlled most of the fight
I just don't see how Golota won more than four rounds. No controversy whatsoever.

to me the QuietGOAT put on a jab-and-clinch clinic in the second half of the fight and swept rounds 6-12

 

[Jello Biafra]

That fight was just like Bradley-**** or Wlad-Peter I where the fighter that got knocked down still controlled most of the fight
I just don't see how Golota won more than four rounds. No controversy whatsoever.

to me the QuietGOAT put on a jab-and-clinch clinic in the second half of the fight and swept rounds 6-12

Re-watching John Ruiz fights sounds like a special brand of cruel and unusual punishment.

 

[Jello Biafra]

@ them threads getting deleted

Wha happened?

 

[patscorpio]

Wha happened?

Master Teacher posted a thread that was inaccurate about wilder and cain velasquez so The Infamous deleted it..after both called each other names in the thread title..the master teacher created another thread wanting to strip the infamous of his mod powers so that got deleted too

 

[patscorpio]

That fight was just like Bradley-**** or Wlad-Peter I where the fighter that got knocked down still controlled most of the fight
I just don't see how Golota won more than four rounds. No controversy whatsoever.

to me the QuietGOAT put on a jab-and-clinch clinic in the second half of the fight and swept rounds 6-12

 

[patscorpio]

Re-watching John Ruiz fights sounds like a special brand of cruel and unusual punishment.

i know breh but i promised to rewatch and score byrd vs oquendo (which id done already), mccline (which im doing later), and golota

i referenced ruiz getting a gift against golota and @Piff Huxtable respectfully disagreed so i said id rewatch that too and score

 

[Piff Huxtable]

i know breh but i promised to rewatch and score byrd vs oquendo (which id done already), mccline (which im doing later), and golota

i referenced ruiz getting a gift against golota and @Piff Huxtable respectfully disagreed so i said id rewatch that too and score

trust me the Norman Stone fukkery alone is worth it

 

[yo moms]

some guy on eastsideboxing forums has 5 or 6 full freddie little fights. ive seen the vlc stills too. i offered him 1000 pounds for all of them but he wont sell them at all. ive been looking for more freddie little footage for like 3 years. only to find out dude is hoarding the footage

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

i can understand him not wanting to be stripped, but then why start talking with degale's camp if thats the case? my issue is with people saying he's the most avoided, everybodys scared, etc when theres someone jumping up and down with his hand raised willing to fight. if that fight is terrible on paper, then what was the willie monroe fight on paper? i actually enjoyed that one more than the lemieux fight which had foty potential before it happened.

That is a good point. In my previous post I didn't want to say GGG was required to face his mandatory because I hadn't heard that. I know my concern is that if the IBF requires you to you better because they will strip you.
The whole 168 thing is weird. It is always GGG's camp who talks 168, but never GGG himself. In fact GGG just put out a tweet that said: if you weigh 160, I will fight you. Basically saying 160 is his division and he isn't running from anyone in his division. I think 168 for him is strictly money. People need to look at the reality and see that GGG weight wise belongs at 160. Yeah, people say he could get some better competition at 168 or he has been at 160 so long he should move up. But look at his physical size, he is almost always the smaller fighter on fight night. Roberto Garcia (and other trainers) are on record saying he is not very big for 160 and I have seen sparring videos of him against 154 lb fighters and he is the smaller guy. So I don't have a problem with GGG being at 160. In fact historically I think his team is being smart and seeing at the number of defenses he has, he can continue that streak, and he still has a major accomplishment awaiting in trying to get the lineal crown. Let's not act like doing everything he can to position himself for a Canelo fight isn't the right thing to do. Everyone knows Canelo is a top 10 PFP fighter and a GGG-Canelo fight is a top must see fight on everyone's list, even the GGG haters. That is a great fight. IMO, arguably the best fight to be made in boxing right now.

I haven't said Lara isn't willing to fight, I am sure he is. I just don't think making a Lara fight is a big deal. No one really cares about him, he doesn't bring any money, and IMO wouldn't be a major accomplishment to GGG's resume. I prefer GGG making historically more important fights, which is angling to be lineal or unified champion.

 

[SuikodenII]

fortuna is gong to get his ass whooped..what happened to the walters fight though? was it the draw that fukked it up

Yeah but the WBA is consolidating their belt holders at all weights.

 

[Black_Jesus]

That is a good point. In my previous post I didn't want to say GGG was required to face his mandatory because I hadn't heard that. I know my concern is that if the IBF requires you to you better because they will strip you.
The whole 168 thing is weird. It is always GGG's camp who talks 168, but never GGG himself. In fact GGG just put out a tweet that said: if you weigh 160, I will fight you. Basically saying 160 is his division and he isn't running from anyone in his division. I think 168 for him is strictly money. People need to look at the reality and see that GGG weight wise belongs at 160. Yeah, people say he could get some better competition at 168 or he has been at 160 so long he should move up. But look at his physical size, he is almost always the smaller fighter on fight night. Roberto Garcia (and other trainers) are on record saying he is not very big for 160 and I have seen sparring videos of him against 154 lb fighters and he is the smaller guy. So I don't have a problem with GGG being at 160. In fact historically I think his team is being smart and seeing at the number of defenses he has, he can continue that streak, and he still has a major accomplishment awaiting in trying to get the lineal crown. Let's not act like doing everything he can to position himself for a Canelo fight isn't the right thing to do. Everyone knows Canelo is a top 10 PFP fighter and a GGG-Canelo fight is a top must see fight on everyone's list, even the GGG haters. That is a great fight. IMO, arguably the best fight to be made in boxing right now.

I haven't said Lara isn't willing to fight, I am sure he is. I just don't think making a Lara fight is a big deal. No one really cares about him, he doesn't bring any money, and IMO wouldn't be a major accomplishment to GGG's resume. I prefer GGG making historically more important fights, which is angling to be lineal or unified champion.

He should go to 168

 

[SuikodenII]

I don't know about ya'll but..............




I'd really like to see DeGale-Groves 2




With Badou Jack-Chavez Jr. not being done, why can't Dirrell get that rematch as well? Or Andre Dirrell in there to avenge that loss on some Klitschko ish

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Victor Ortiz to return in March...



Joel Diaz wants Swift after that

 

[patscorpio]

this real sports story about fury is ..gypsy folks are somethign else