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Well if he dispatches LeMieux (sp?) like he's been dispatching everyone else, not many. That doesn't mean 160 is trash as @hyperman25 alluded to, I disagree whole heartedly. GGG is a beast.


Assuming he shows some sort of serious weakness or flaw to entice the winner of Cotto/Canelo, that's his next bout.

Assuming he thrashes D.LeMieux, and he can't get the Cotto/Canelo winner next...

-Andy Lee (Sanders fight is off due to Saunders injury), Saunders, Eubank Jr., Heiland (Argentinian cat that semi-retired Macklin)

You're absolutely right that he's running out of opponents, especially considering how active of a fighter he is. Also, if they're looking for PPV attractions, they aren't there at 160, from anyone, except the Cotto/Canelo winner. Now, if we're just talking regular HBO, then the guys I mentioned are good enough.

160 is trash. breh cotto lost to 154 may(not even a real 154) n trout.....probably gonna lose to canelo.

but cotto smashed geale n martinez......just as easy as a ggg would.

people think just cause a guy is dominant hes good....nope i disagree. u have to be dominant over hof or A class comp.


who in mw is an A or B Class fighter? cotto and who else?
 

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i just dont see what makes ali greater than carlos monzon, arguello, bob foster or duran. if we are talking about accomplishments in the ring and reigning their divisions. they are much more accomplished than ali.

You're way too caught up keeping count of wins, loses, & title defenses. When you have ATG's in your division like Frazier, Foreman, & Norton you'll take some L's at some point. Joe Louis would've won some & taken L's to those heavies if they fought in the era. It doesn't take away from their greatness losing to another ATG if you've beaten them more times than losing in multiple head to head fights.
 

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man flabby n sick holmes was beating prime mercer.

almost won over prime holyfield.....

imagine if holmes was in his prime during 90's............lewis could have easily got whooped....

plus lewis struggled with mercer.....

holmes too underrated imo

I would pick Holmes over Lewis in a mythical matchup. Better jab & a better chin.
Larry's boxing ability is severely underrated. Prime Larry Holmes could beat most ATG heavies in a match.
 

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alright give your well drawn out reason(boxing skills,attributes,styles,chin,heart.....) to why wlad is absolute goat over every hw ever.

ill wait.

Not trying to speak for him but I don't think anyone is saying hes an ATG over EVERY HW ever. I don't think anyone believes that at all.

edit: guess I was wrong..
 

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alright give your well drawn out reason(boxing skills,attributes,styles,chin,heart.....) to why wlad is absolute goat over every hw ever.

ill wait.
Why?

At the end of the day u just going to say he fought no one and I'm not going to change ur mind.. U know who he has fought.. U seen the video of Chris pretty much telling what it is.

BUT when it come to skills:comeon:

U acting like u don't see maybe the best short, sharp left hook in boxing history.. The jab that he shoots from the shoulder that many boxers say u cannot avoid, he has literally won fights off the jab alone.. I would say it's his best weapon and ranks as a all time great jab too... Also what the GOAT heavyweight trainer manny Stewart called the missle, his right hand... If u fall asleep to his right hand cuz of those jabs u going to sleep.
 

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nikka i posted that.:russ:

im asking newzz...a wlad stan.


I was a Vitali stan....once he left, I had no choice but to move over to Wlad:blessed:


I never put Wlad in my sig though, because @GzUpHoEzDwN never gave a crew name for him:yeshrug:


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Why?

At the end of the day u just going to say he fought no one and I'm not going to change ur mind.. U know who he has fought.. U seen the video of Chris pretty much telling what it is.

BUT when it come to skills:comeon:

U acting like u don't see maybe the best short, sharp left hook in boxing history.. The jab that he shoots from the shoulder that many boxers say u cannot avoid, he has literally won fights off the jab alone.. I would say it's his best weapon and ranks as a all time great jab too... Also what the GOAT heavyweight trainer manny Stewart called the missle, his right hand... If u fall asleep to his right hand cuz of those jabs u going to sleep.

:russ: cause its fukkin true thats why u skeptical to engage.

im not putting him over ali resume wise when ali fought wayyyyy better comp.:mjlol:


he couldn't knock out a guy who been boxing for 6 years and won 7-5/8-4 decision imo.

yeah i dont think hes all that. never will.

he did become a better fighter though but even now i don't think he beats prime lewis of the 90's with stew or futch.


u know what wlad vs foreman is the match up i wanna see. they both became better boxers in the latter part of their career.:jbhmm:
 

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I was a Vitali stan....once he left, I had no choice but to move over to Wlad:blessed:


I never put Wlad in my sig though, because @GzUpHoEzDwN never gave a crew name for him:yeshrug:
I've been low key trying to think of a hashtag but I've struggles to come up with one :francis:

Recently I have been looking at old vitali fights and he was the better fighter, not skills wise but he was just looked so imposing and I think had more power then wlad... Vitali chin:wow:
 

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:russ: cause its fukkin true thats why u skeptical to engage.

im not putting him over ali resume wise when ali fought wayyyyy better comp.:mjlol:


he couldn't knock out a guy who been boxing for 6 years and won 7-5/8-4 decision imo.

yeah i dont think hes all that. never will.

he did become a better fighter though but even now i don't think he beats prime lewis of the 90's with stew or futch.


u know what wlad vs foreman is the match up i wanna see. they both became better boxers in the latter part of their career.:jbhmm:
I have no problem to engage, I can talk about wlad all day... But like Chris said the current heavyweights don't have all the names but they are still good.

And let's not get into he couldn't knock someone out, look at his record and ko's... If he doesn't knock someone out like Floyd he trying to play it safe, it just goes like that sometimes.

Prime Lewis and prime wlad is a good fight, can go either way.

Wlad would beat foreman very easy to be honest... Foreman believed in no defense and just walked to u with his hands out... Foreman could not take those big shots from wlad from the outside... Once foreman got close wlad would just get him in a clinch and repeat.
 
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