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u think douglas is ready for a guy like quillin or jacobs or ggg?
GGG? :whoa:

He's up again in November, as long as he continues to dominate and dismantle in his next bout he's on his way.

Both guys are beatable, but I'd like to see him face another athletic fighter before making that assumption.

...160 has some good fighters, but we ain't ready for GGG, not yet...
 

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GGG? :whoa:

He's up again in November, as long as he continues to dominate and dismantle in his next bout he's on his way.

Both guys are beatable, but I'd like to see him face another athletic fighter before making that assumption.

...160 has some good fighters, but we ain't ready for GGG, not yet...
Who else realistically does GGG have at 160.. seems like he's running out of opponents to me
 

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GGG? :whoa:

He's up again in November, as long as he continues to dominate and dismantle in his next bout he's on his way.

Both guys are beatable, but I'd like to see him face another athletic fighter before making that assumption.

...160 has some good fighters, but we ain't ready for GGG, not yet...

i think 160 is trash personally .:russ:
 

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Who else realistically does GGG have at 160.. seems like he's running out of opponents to me
Well if he dispatches LeMieux (sp?) like he's been dispatching everyone else, not many. That doesn't mean 160 is trash as @hyperman25 alluded to, I disagree whole heartedly. GGG is a beast.


Assuming he shows some sort of serious weakness or flaw to entice the winner of Cotto/Canelo, that's his next bout.

Assuming he thrashes D.LeMieux, and he can't get the Cotto/Canelo winner next...

-Andy Lee (Sanders fight is off due to Saunders injury), Saunders, Eubank Jr., Heiland (Argentinian cat that semi-retired Macklin)

You're absolutely right that he's running out of opponents, especially considering how active of a fighter he is. Also, if they're looking for PPV attractions, they aren't there at 160, from anyone, except the Cotto/Canelo winner. Now, if we're just talking regular HBO, then the guys I mentioned are good enough.
 

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@hyperman25 what do you think about some of these fighters?
If you watched the J Rock fight of course he is. If you see the stuff Spence does (even though it may be in flashes) he's clearly ready to fight (universally) top 15 guys, not brehs ranked top 10 by the IBF but top 10000 by the WBC
 

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Klitschko: 'I'm not bothered' by P4P rankings
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    Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
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    • Five years at USA Today
In the wake of Floyd Mayweather’s retirement, it has left open the question of who is the new No. 1 fighter in the world pound-for-pound.

In the panel vote of ESPN.com’s boxing experts released on Wednesday, the honor went to flyweight world champion Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez, who is most definitely one of the elite fighters in the world.

Heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko has dominated the division for a decade. He has never ducked an opponent and fought virtually all of the notable heavyweights of his time, except -- for good reason -- his now-retired older brother Vitali.

Klitschko (64-3, 54 KOs), who hasn’t lost since 2004, has won 22 fights in a row, virtually all of them with ease. Not only hasn’t Klitschko lost in more than a decade, he has barely lost any rounds. During his historic title reign he has also:

• Made 18 title defenses (third-most in division history).

• Held the title for more than nine years (second-longest in division history).

• Is 25-2 overall world title fights (across two title reigns).

• When he meets Tyson Fury, who will be the sixth undefeated opponent Klitschko will be facing in his last seven title defenses, on Oct. 24, it will be the 28th world title fight of Klitschko’s career, breaking the division record he shares with Joe Louis.

It is rather surprising that a fighter as accomplished against the best of his time -- who is also superb on offense and defense with an amateur pedigree that included the 1996 super heavyweight Olympic gold medal -- didn’t get more consideration for the top spot. He came in at No. 8 on the new ESPN poll, which I couldn’t disagree with more. I had been voting him No. 2. With Mayweather retiring, I voted him No. 1.

I asked Klitschko about his pound-for-pound standing on a recent media teleconference he was on to talk about the fight with Fury. As usual, Klitschko was polite and handled himself like he always does -- with class. He wasn’t about to start blathering about how he was the best, like a certain recently retired star did with regularity.

“I will never say that,” Klitschko said when asked he thought he deserved consideration to take over Mayweather’s vacated No. 1 spot. “I don't want to compare myself with other guys and I think there's some that do certain thing better than I and have been champions for a couple of years. But otherwise, am I going to be really upset? No.

“I think that there's a lot of people that can make the decisions. There's always somebody that is better than you in certain ways. There’s an old saying: People call you the king, the king doesn't call himself that. Would I be pleased to be called the top pound-for-pound fighter? I guess so. You guys decide who’s going to be the No. 1 pound for pound. That decision is not in my hands.

“I think that I can do certain things better than the others but I think I will let the others decide for me where I'm [ranked]. So I'm totally chill about it and I'm not bothered by that. I do not decide who's going to be pound-for-pound No. 1.

“You can watch me enjoying myself on Oct. 24th at my next match against Tyson Fury and the rest is history. So I definitely will not concern myself with who's going to be pound-to-pound No. 1.”


Spoken like a true king.


Klitschko: 'I'm not bothered' by P4P rankings - Dan Rafael Blog - ESPN


Wlad The Impaler is easily the best Heavyweight in the world and should break every Heavyweight record before it's all said and done:obama:
 

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The Impaler speaks on how the Lamon Brewster fight, his last loss 11 years ago, changed his outlook on Boxing and his dedication to the craft:wow:

"I was watching the HBO broadcast of my first fight with Brewster, which I lost, and the commentators were saying that's it for me as a heavyweight contender. That's it," Klitschko told ESPN.com. "People said I had no chin, no stamina, no heart, no nothing. People maybe have forgotten about that fight and what was said about me afterward but I didn't. I never have. It's my motivation. Every time I fight I want to show people how much more talent I have and how much more I have in my arsenal that I didn't show that night.

"I'm gonna be thankful to Lamon Brewster to my grave. It was a great experience. I wouldn't change anything. The fight was fantastic. For four rounds I was winning easily and whatever happened doesn't matter. But it was a fantastic experience. When I look at this fight it gives me such motivation and freshness. I'm not done with my payback. I'm paying back everyone who said what they said about me after that fight. My ego is very big as an athlete. It's all payback."
"I ran out of gas. How or why? I have no answer for you," Klitschko said. "I was just out of gas. Lamon kept pushing. I have a lot of respect for him. He won and became champion. I will be thankful to Lamon until my grave. It's something that changed my life. I'm not sure what I would have become had I won. That fight changed my life for the good.

"All of the criticism that I received I remember. I remember people turning their back to me. It was something I had to face in my life. Then things changed tremendously. I knew I could lose my sporting career if I didn't change. I trained myself in a certain way after that."
"Then you forget to watch yourself. I'm thinking, 'How can I improve?' You can improve not just by looking at others but looking at yourself," he said. "So I was studying my mistakes in that fight."
"I don't want to have a rival. I want to roll over my natural rival, whoever that is. I want to destroy him before he gets his head up," said Klitschko, the 1996 Olympic super heavyweight gold medalist. "I want to outclass that person, Pulev and everyone else I fight. I don't want to give him a chance to do anything and I want to knock my opponent out any time I want.

"I understand my fights can be boring but at the end of the day it's about lasting as long as [49-year-old] Bernard Hopkins has lasted. You cannot not be a fan of his. My goal is to have as much health as Bernard Hopkins. And my other goal is that none of my rivals touch me and they will get knocked out. I'm the dictator in the ring. I'm not going to give them a chance to touch me."
"I said to myself that one day I will have Lamon sign the card [card showing Brewster standing over a downed Klitschko] for me," Klitschko said. "I kept this card in my gym bag for years. When we had the rematch I said to myself, 'I'm going to win this fight and I am going to sign the card and give it to Lamon.'"
"That fight was completely the turning point of my life, not just my career, but my life," Klitschko said. "I changed the way I wanted to do things. There is no way I would be champion today without that loss. I got to know the other side in the hardest way."

Memory of Lamon Brewster loss drives Wladimir Klitschko



Wlad is definitely an ATG.:ohlawd:
 

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:heh: im referring to opponents that would be somewhat competitive
He just named some, also kid chacolate is there.. I've read on some good rising guys too... But I agree, I think he can beat anyone they put in front of him at 160.
 
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