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[Manny Pac]

Berto been training for the past 4 weeks already. Floyd better be careful. Berto been watching the punches Cotto and Maidana landed and how they masked their attacks. This is a great fight no matter how you slice it because Floyd hasn't fought that speed and power in a while. Berto is also open to get hit and he will hit back.

One thing I'll say he won't have a shoulder injury like Pacman

fixed

 

[patscorpio]

I don't mind that match up (mostly because a black man/Florida nikka getting the payday), but I won't say this is a good fight especially when #Thurminatiors is in the cut waiting for his opportunity.

Some fights you just can't defend.

im with you on your post but the bolded in particular..i just dont want andre berto to get a payday...dude has made out like a bandit over his career for being a perennial underachiever..he hasn't earned it

 

[Newzz]

The magazine owned by Golden Boy?

What for?

...and Dan is such a little bytch.......

Yes, because they give the give the closest to legit rankings out there.


Example?

IBF Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Champion: Kell Brook
1 NOT RATED
2 NOT RATED
3 Sadam Ali United States
4 Diego Chaves Argentina
5 Kevin Bizier Canada
6 Fredrick Lawson Ghana
7 Chris Van Heerden South Africa
8 Konstantin Ponomarev Russian Federation
9 Rico Muller Germany
10 Shawn Porter United States

WBA Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Unified Champion: Floyd Mayweather
Regular Champion: Keith Thurman
COUNTRY
1 ANDRE BERTO INTERIM CHAMP USA
2 AMIR KHAN GBR
3 MARCOS RENE MAIDANA ARG
4 SHAWN PORTER USA
5 TEERECHAI KRATINGDAENGGYM THA
6 SADAM ALI INT USA
7 JOHAN PEREZ NABA VEN
8 ERROL SPENCE JR USA
9 DIEGO CHAVES ARG
10 ROBERT GUERRERO USA

WBC Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Champion: Floyd Mayweather
1 .- Amir Khan (GB) SILVER
2 .- Danny Garcia (US)
3 .- Shawn Porter (US)
4 .- Antonin Decarie (Canada)
5 .- Marcos Maidana (Argentina)
6 .- Brandon Rios (US)
7 .- Konstantin Ponomarev (Russia) NABF
8 .- Ray Robinson (US)
9 .- David Avanesyan (Russia)
10 .- Robert Guerrero (US)

WBO Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Champion: Timothy Bradley
1 Sadam Ali (Int.-Cont.) USA
2 Manny Pacquiao PHI
3 Brandon Rios (International) USA
4 Jessie Vargas USA
5 Chris Algieri USA
6 Ray Robinson (NABO) USA
7 Bradley Skeete (WBO Europe) UK
8 Konstantin Ponomarev RUS
9 Shawn Porter USA
10 Jeff Horn (Oriental) AUST


RING Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Champion: Floyd Mayweather
1 Kell Brook
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Amir Khan
4 Timothy Bradley
5 Keith Thurman
6 Shawn Porter
7 Marcos Maidana
8 Diego Chaves
9 Sadam Ali
10 Danny Garcia




IMO the RING rankings are the ones who provide a closer to reality Top 10 then any organization like IBF/WBA/WBC/WBO. Just glance at the Top 10 lists and easily RING's is closer to what is actually true.

 

[SuikodenII]

Yes, because they give the give the closest to legit rankings out there.


Example?

IBF Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Champion: Kell Brook
1 NOT RATED
2 NOT RATED
3 Sadam Ali United States
4 Diego Chaves Argentina
5 Kevin Bizier Canada
6 Fredrick Lawson Ghana
7 Chris Van Heerden South Africa
8 Konstantin Ponomarev Russian Federation
9 Rico Muller Germany
10 Shawn Porter United States

WBA Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Unified Champion: Floyd Mayweather
Regular Champion: Keith Thurman
COUNTRY
1 ANDRE BERTO INTERIM CHAMP USA
2 AMIR KHAN GBR
3 MARCOS RENE MAIDANA ARG
4 SHAWN PORTER USA
5 TEERECHAI KRATINGDAENGGYM THA
6 SADAM ALI INT USA
7 JOHAN PEREZ NABA VEN
8 ERROL SPENCE JR USA
9 DIEGO CHAVES ARG
10 ROBERT GUERRERO USA

WBC Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Champion: Floyd Mayweather
1 .- Amir Khan (GB) SILVER
2 .- Danny Garcia (US)
3 .- Shawn Porter (US)
4 .- Antonin Decarie (Canada)
5 .- Marcos Maidana (Argentina)
6 .- Brandon Rios (US)
7 .- Konstantin Ponomarev (Russia) NABF
8 .- Ray Robinson (US)
9 .- David Avanesyan (Russia)
10 .- Robert Guerrero (US)

WBO Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Champion: Timothy Bradley
1 Sadam Ali (Int.-Cont.) USA
2 Manny Pacquiao PHI
3 Brandon Rios (International) USA
4 Jessie Vargas USA
5 Chris Algieri USA
6 Ray Robinson (NABO) USA
7 Bradley Skeete (WBO Europe) UK
8 Konstantin Ponomarev RUS
9 Shawn Porter USA
10 Jeff Horn (Oriental) AUST
RING Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:


Champion: Floyd Mayweather
1 Kell Brook
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Amir Khan
4 Timothy Bradley
5 Keith Thurman
6 Shawn Porter
7 Marcos Maidana
8 Diego Chaves
9 Sadam Ali
10 Danny Garcia




IMO the RING rankings are the ones who provide a closer to reality Top 10 then any organization like IBF/WBA/WBC/WBO.

May
Pac
Marquez
Bradley
Maidana
Brook
Porter
Garcia
Khan
Thurman

I disagree. That's a direct conflict of interest to have a promotional company own a magazine company that's supposed to be an "official bible of boxing."

And you can literally choose any list and it would rival the sanctioning bodys' lists. That proves nothing. They may be closer to your own personal opinion, and that's fine, but they're not "closer to reality" simply because their lists look better than the alphabet soups'. EVERYONE has a better list than them (barring Mook....)

 

[Jello Biafra]

The magazine owned by Golden Boy?

What for?

...and Dan is such a little bytch.......

I like the IBO rankings.
They go all the way up to 100 and no Wawrzyk is in sight so of course he will be who Wilder decides to fight.
Way to go, champ!:hwthumbsup:

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

(barring Mook....)

 

[SuikodenII]

I like the IBO rankings.
They go all the way up to 100 and no Wawrzyk is in sight so of course he will be who Wilder decides to fight.
Way to go, champ!:hwthumbsup:

I'm curious, but since they're another sanctioning body, albeit not as big as the other 4, why are their rankings any different?

The other 4 have top 50-100 rankings as well, however, I'm not sure if they're publically available.

 

[Newzz]

I like the IBO rankings.
They go all the way up to 100 and no Wawrzyk is in sight so of course he will be who Wilder decides to fight.
Way to go, champ!:hwthumbsup:

IBO Welterweight Top 10:

1 Manny Pacquiao
2 Keith Thurman
3 Marcos Rene Maidana
4 Amir Khan
5 Shawn Porter
6 Timothy Bradley Jr
7 Brandon Rios
8 Diego Gabriel Chaves
9 Devon Alexander
10 Ray Robinson


No Danny Garcia? And I remember Brad Solomon (also Shawn Porter) beat Ray Robinson, plus King Solomon is undefeated. Other than that though, the list is pretty legit. Ima have to check em out from now on

 

[Manny Pac]

WBA Champion & Top 10 Welterweights:

Unified Champion: Floyd Mayweather
Regular Champion: Keith Thurman
COUNTRY
1 ANDRE BERTO INTERIM CHAMP USA
2 AMIR KHAN GBR
3 MARCOS RENE MAIDANA ARG
4 SHAWN PORTER USA
5 TEERECHAI KRATINGDAENGGYM THA
6 SADAM ALI INT USA
7 JOHAN PEREZ NABA VEN
8 ERROL SPENCE JR USA
9 DIEGO CHAVES ARG
10 ROBERT GUERRERO USA

 

[Newzz]

Exactly.

That WBA list is garbage

No Pacquiao automatically gets the , plus Berto as #1 Contender???

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

To Steakhouse, the realest fans on the internet. Lucas.

 

[SuikodenII]

Maidana is out enjoying the fruits of labor, but we're about to ignore the path of carnage he went on in his last run? Word?

 

[SuikodenII]

To Steakhouse, the realest fans on the internet. Lucas.

Boxing humanitarian of the month

 

[Jello Biafra]

I'm curious, but since they're another sanctioning body, albeit not as big as the other 4, why are their rankings any different?

The other 4 have top 50-100 rankings as well, however, I'm not sure if they're publically available.

I like that they use a computerized ranking system with set guidelines and rules to it. Their rankings aren't arbitrary or up to the whims of officials in the sanctioning body...its a computer program spitting out objective rankings based on a points system.

 

[Jello Biafra]

IBO Welterweight Top 10:

1 Manny Pacquiao
2 Keith Thurman
3 Marcos Rene Maidana
4 Amir Khan
5 Shawn Porter
6 Timothy Bradley Jr
7 Brandon Rios
8 Diego Gabriel Chaves
9 Devon Alexander
10 Ray Robinson


No Danny Garcia? And I remember Brad Solomon (also Shawn Porter) beat Ray Robinson, plus King Solomon is undefeated. Other than that though, the list is pretty legit. Ima have to check em out from now on

The program is based on a point system within each weight class...Danny has officially been at Welter for one fight so he isn't listed.
He is still at the top of the 140 rankings though.