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Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
Mares had one of the best recent runs in the sport when you think about it.
Perez
Darchiniyan (When he was still a threat)
Agbeko 2x (I thought he should have lost the 1st fight tho, especially if it was reffed correctly)
Moreno
Morel
Ponce De Leon
#MaresMob
agree with all this..except the mares mob thing
at Lomachenko's team calling nikkas out, but then trying to force everyone to fight him at 126.You cant call someone out at a different weight class, but refuse to move up, down, or meet them at a catchweight.
We went over this before, Loma comes down to 122...he can get that work. Rigo is already maxed out at 122. Hell, he's only 5'4
Amare's Right Hook
Southeast World Champion
krackdagawd
Inspire.
Loma is my dude but I like both of em.....its a dope fight but I think Loma is too big for him. I would bet my sn Rigo could still make 118.
seemorecizzy
Superstar
seemorecizzy
Superstar
this era starting to get out of hand with all these weight proposals
You cant call someone out at a different weight class, but refuse to move up, down, or meet them at a catchweight.
We went over this before, Loma comes down to 122...he can get that work. Rigo is already maxed out at 122. Hell, he's only 5'4
floyd would whip yo ass old man
JCC couldnt handle Meldrick Taylor...fukk was he gonna do with a prime Floyd
Knicksman20
Superstar
JCC couldnt handle Meldrick Taylor...fukk was he gonna do with a prime Floyd
Or Sweet Pea
The winner of Imam vs Angulo is supposed to fight the winner of Matthysse vs Postol right?
Okay, I've noticed that Imam has never even fought a 12 rounder yet and the fight with Angulo is also a 10 rounder.
Also a jump from Angulo to Matthysse is kind of a large jump for Imam, who would only be in his 19th professional fight, facing a supremely hard hitting Champion in Lucas Matthysse who's fought the best at 140 already
Yall cool with Imam doing that, but think Spence (who also has 17 career fights like Imam right now) should be allowed to "ease" his way into title contention 1-2 years from now?
Imam is younger than Spence....yall trying to see the Young Master get killed by Matthysse brehs?
Okay, I've noticed that Imam has never even fought a 12 rounder yet and the fight with Angulo is also a 10 rounder.
Also a jump from Angulo to Matthysse is kind of a large jump for Imam, who would only be in his 19th professional fight, facing a supremely hard hitting Champion in Lucas Matthysse who's fought the best at 140 already
Yall cool with Imam doing that, but think Spence (who also has 17 career fights like Imam right now) should be allowed to "ease" his way into title contention 1-2 years from now?
Imam is younger than Spence....yall trying to see the Young Master get killed by Matthysse brehs?
krackdagawd
Inspire.
The winner of Imam vs Angulo is supposed to fight the winner of Matthysse vs Postol right?
Okay, I've noticed that Imam has never even fought a 12 rounder yet and the fight with Angulo is also a 10 rounder.
Also a jump from Angulo to Matthysse is kind of a large jump for Imam, who would only be in his 19th professional fight, facing a supremely hard hitting Champion in Lucas Matthysse who's fought the best at 140 already
Yall cool with Imam doing that, but think Spence (who also has 17 career fights like Imam right now) should be allowed to "ease" his way into title contention 1-2 years from now?
Imam is younger than Spence....yall trying to see the Young Master get killed by Matthysse brehs?
New school of boxing trying to get all these old nikkas out the paint
@ChocolateGiddyUp correction breh...Jessie Vargas DID vacate his title, so yes, when Danny Garcia finally vacates it on August 1st, Jose Benavidez will be moved up to WBA Super Champion and Adrien Broner will be moved up to #1 contender for the belt
Vargas saved $40K by vacating title before Bradley fight
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Jessie Vargas, right, vacated his 140-pound title before the start of his decision loss to Timothy Bradley Jr. Chris Farina/Top Rank
Many believed that whatever happened in the fight, Vargas would decide afterward whether he would remain at 147 pounds and defend his new belt or return to 140 to defend his other belt.
However, he had already vacated his title at 140. The reason? Cameron Dunkin, Vargas' manager, and Carl Moretti of Top Rank, his promoter, told ESPN.com that the WBA, whose belt he held, was seeking a $40,000 payment from his $600,000 purse to allow him to fight Bradley in the non-junior welterweight title bout.
Vargas, wisely, elected to keep the $40k. As it was, Dunkin said he paid a far more reasonable and legitimate $18,000 fee to the WBO to sanction the welterweight title bout with Bradley, which Vargas lost by unanimous decision. Vargas hurt Bradley badly in the waning seconds of the fight only to have it cut short by seven seconds when referee Pat Russell mistakenly stopped the bout after hearing the 10-second clapper, which he thought was the final bell.
"The WBA wanted $40,000. I have no idea for what," Dunkin said. "And then there was $18,000 to the WBO. We understand that. It's their title fight. But to pay out $58,000 in sanction fees on a $600,000 purse? Are you crazy? That's a lot of money."
Dunkin said Vargas (26-1, 9 KOs) is going to remain at 147 pounds anyway, so he would not have returned to 140 to defend that belt.
"I don't want him making 140 anymore. He's so big," Dunkin said. "He will stay at 147 and he'll work to get stronger and bigger, and I believe he will stay with [new trainer] Erik Morales and try to become a more aggressive fighter. Look, he had Tim hurt bad at the end of the fight. There are good fights for him at 147."
What that next bout will be is up in the air. Dunkin said he spent time on Tuesday talking with Top Rank boss Bob Arum and Moretti about the next fight and they are going through scenarios. Dunkin did say, however, that Vargas would fight again before the end of the year.
Vargas, 26, wound up making two title defenses of his so-called "regular" title after winning the belt in April 2014. Lineal champion Danny Garcia was the WBA's top champion throughout Vargas' reign.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/...ed-40k-by-vacating-title-before-bradley-fight
#BandCamp....we got 9 lives.
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Vargas saved $40K by vacating title before Bradley fight
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Jessie Vargas, right, vacated his 140-pound title before the start of his decision loss to Timothy Bradley Jr. Chris Farina/Top Rank
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Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
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- ESPN.com boxing writer since 2005
- Five years at USA Today
Many believed that whatever happened in the fight, Vargas would decide afterward whether he would remain at 147 pounds and defend his new belt or return to 140 to defend his other belt.
However, he had already vacated his title at 140. The reason? Cameron Dunkin, Vargas' manager, and Carl Moretti of Top Rank, his promoter, told ESPN.com that the WBA, whose belt he held, was seeking a $40,000 payment from his $600,000 purse to allow him to fight Bradley in the non-junior welterweight title bout.
Vargas, wisely, elected to keep the $40k. As it was, Dunkin said he paid a far more reasonable and legitimate $18,000 fee to the WBO to sanction the welterweight title bout with Bradley, which Vargas lost by unanimous decision. Vargas hurt Bradley badly in the waning seconds of the fight only to have it cut short by seven seconds when referee Pat Russell mistakenly stopped the bout after hearing the 10-second clapper, which he thought was the final bell.
"The WBA wanted $40,000. I have no idea for what," Dunkin said. "And then there was $18,000 to the WBO. We understand that. It's their title fight. But to pay out $58,000 in sanction fees on a $600,000 purse? Are you crazy? That's a lot of money."
Dunkin said Vargas (26-1, 9 KOs) is going to remain at 147 pounds anyway, so he would not have returned to 140 to defend that belt.
"I don't want him making 140 anymore. He's so big," Dunkin said. "He will stay at 147 and he'll work to get stronger and bigger, and I believe he will stay with [new trainer] Erik Morales and try to become a more aggressive fighter. Look, he had Tim hurt bad at the end of the fight. There are good fights for him at 147."
What that next bout will be is up in the air. Dunkin said he spent time on Tuesday talking with Top Rank boss Bob Arum and Moretti about the next fight and they are going through scenarios. Dunkin did say, however, that Vargas would fight again before the end of the year.
Vargas, 26, wound up making two title defenses of his so-called "regular" title after winning the belt in April 2014. Lineal champion Danny Garcia was the WBA's top champion throughout Vargas' reign.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/...ed-40k-by-vacating-title-before-bradley-fight
#BandCamp....we got 9 lives.
:aboutbillions:
ChocolateGiddyUp
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@ChocolateGiddyUp correction breh...Jessie Vargas DID vacate his title, so yes, when Danny Garcia finally vacates it on August 1st, Jose Benavidez will be moved up to WBA Super Champion and Adrien Broner will be moved up to #1 contender for the belt
Vargas saved $40K by vacating title before Bradley fight
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Jessie Vargas, right, vacated his 140-pound title before the start of his decision loss to Timothy Bradley Jr. Chris Farina/Top Rank
As it turns out, Jessie Vargas had vacated his junior welterweight belt before he even stepped into the ring to face Timothy Bradley Jr. for a welterweight title on June 27 at the StubHub Center in Carson, California.
Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
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- 2013 BWAA Nat Fleischer Award winner for excellence in boxing journalism
- ESPN.com boxing writer since 2005
- Five years at USA Today
Many believed that whatever happened in the fight, Vargas would decide afterward whether he would remain at 147 pounds and defend his new belt or return to 140 to defend his other belt.
However, he had already vacated his title at 140. The reason? Cameron Dunkin, Vargas' manager, and Carl Moretti of Top Rank, his promoter, told ESPN.com that the WBA, whose belt he held, was seeking a $40,000 payment from his $600,000 purse to allow him to fight Bradley in the non-junior welterweight title bout.
Vargas, wisely, elected to keep the $40k. As it was, Dunkin said he paid a far more reasonable and legitimate $18,000 fee to the WBO to sanction the welterweight title bout with Bradley, which Vargas lost by unanimous decision. Vargas hurt Bradley badly in the waning seconds of the fight only to have it cut short by seven seconds when referee Pat Russell mistakenly stopped the bout after hearing the 10-second clapper, which he thought was the final bell.
"The WBA wanted $40,000. I have no idea for what," Dunkin said. "And then there was $18,000 to the WBO. We understand that. It's their title fight. But to pay out $58,000 in sanction fees on a $600,000 purse? Are you crazy? That's a lot of money."
Dunkin said Vargas (26-1, 9 KOs) is going to remain at 147 pounds anyway, so he would not have returned to 140 to defend that belt.
"I don't want him making 140 anymore. He's so big," Dunkin said. "He will stay at 147 and he'll work to get stronger and bigger, and I believe he will stay with [new trainer] Erik Morales and try to become a more aggressive fighter. Look, he had Tim hurt bad at the end of the fight. There are good fights for him at 147."
What that next bout will be is up in the air. Dunkin said he spent time on Tuesday talking with Top Rank boss Bob Arum and Moretti about the next fight and they are going through scenarios. Dunkin did say, however, that Vargas would fight again before the end of the year.
Vargas, 26, wound up making two title defenses of his so-called "regular" title after winning the belt in April 2014. Lineal champion Danny Garcia was the WBA's top champion throughout Vargas' reign.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/...ed-40k-by-vacating-title-before-bradley-fight
#BandCamp....we got 9 lives.
:aboutbillions:
#swiftset helping Friends N Foes get belts